Apple updates privacy page and gives more detail about how Face ID works

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  • ciderrules

    “how the software performs out in the wild under less than ideal lighting conditions being one of the more significant ones”

    Uh, it uses infrared light. Doesn’t matter if it’s indoor, outdoor, day or night.

    • Smanny

      Is that why it worked so well on the stage, especially when Apple was showing it off to the world for the very first time?

      I know you are going to refer to Apple’s damage control statement, where others back stage looked at the iPhone X before it went on stage, which interfered with FaceID.

    • ciderrules

      Ah, did I upset the troll again?

      Enjoy your Samsung Face Unlock, where a crayon drawing of your face is enough to fool it.

    • Rev0lver

      Not everyone who disagrees with you is a troll. Grow up.

    • Domino67

      He really is quite immature.

    • Brad Fortin

      And not everyone who disagrees with @thereasoner is the same person with multiple accounts, but that doesn’t stop him from saying it is any time someone disagrees with him.

    • gremlin0007

      The face Unlock garbage has been around with Android since like Kit kat. I don’t know why people associate it with Samsung. It’s been proven flawed since like 2013.

    • ciderrules

      Samsung iris scanner was easily fooled as well.

      You’re right about previous versions being garbage, since they relied on the front camera, instead of a system that can map your face (Apple).

    • gremlin0007

      Yeah the Iris scanner was fooled by a night vision camera, I remember… This is why we can’t have nice things lol

    • ciderrules

      It’s easier than that. CCC also claims a regular camera will work.

    • Mr Dog

      Just a standard camera is enough.

      ccc de/en/updates/2017/iriden

    • Domino67

      Not exactly!

      “The easiest way for a thief to capture iris pictures is with a digital camera in night-shot mode or the infrared filter removed. In the infrared light spectrum – usually filtered in cameras – the fine, normally hard to distinguish details of the iris of dark eyes are well recognizable. Starbug was able to demonstrate that a good digital camera with 200mm-lens at a distance of up to five meters is sufficient to capture suitably good pictures to fool iris recognition systems. ”

      SOOOOO someone has to be CLOSER than 5m (15′) while you look DIRECTLY and pose for the camera THEN they may (HIGHLY DOUBTFUL) have a high enough quality photo of your eye to pull this trick off in a laboratory.

      SORRY but if someone is pretty much in my face with a 200mm lens trying to take my picture they will probably more likely to end up with a knee to the nutsack than a usable picture that probably wouldnt work anyway.

    • Mr Dog

      Maybe read the whole article? It also said:

      “a high-resolution picture from the internet is sufficient to capture an iris“,

    • Domino67

      At least post the whole sentence……And the context!

      ” Under some circumstances, a high-resolution picture from the internet is sufficient to capture an iris“, Dirk Engling remarked”

      But it is not sufficient to not upload selfies to the internet: The easiest way for a thief to capture iris pictures is with a digital camera in night-shot mode or the infrared filter removed. In the infrared light spectrum – usually filtered in cameras – the fine, normally hard to distinguish details of the iris of dark eyes are well recognizable. Starbug was able to demonstrate that a good digital camera with 200mm-lens at a distance of up to five meters is sufficient to capture suitably good pictures to fool iris recognition systems.

    • Domino67

      It was not easily fooled.

      But you knew that already and just want to spread FUD.

      CCC had to do some un-ordinary things to get it to be tricked. They also purposely set it up to be used with ONE eye as opposed to using TWO eyes which of course would make it much more difficult for CCC to trick the Iris sensor.

    • Mr Dog

      Yes, most of us try to think for ourselves and not simply jump to conclusions, believe online articles or accept answers from a company.

      Instead of making silly comments, maybe you should do more research. Since your so paranoid about the ‘damage control statement’, why don’t you take a look at the LIVE video, READ what the message on the screen says and then come to a KNOWLEDGEABLE conclusion.

      Instead of jumping to conclusions without putting any thought into what you type. But if your a lazy troll, I guess there is nothing we can do about that.

    • Smanny

      A fail, is a fail. Especially when they are demoing something new to the world. I did see it live, and watched that part again, a few times. But Mr. Mutt you have to call me a lazy troll. Are you part of Apples damage control too? Look people at the event couldn’t even try out Face ID for themselves. Only Apple staff could do that. So it works how well again you Mutt.

    • Mr Dog

      Alright, lets just wait till Nov 3rd and then you can shut it.

    • Brad Fortin

      But that would require effort, and trolls hate putting effort into anything that isn’t trolling.

    • Rev0lver

      Yeah, because there’s no such thing as infrared light interference…

    • Sure. I’ll still wait until I actually use Face ID before passing judgment on it either way.