Videotron launches Unlimited Music streaming that doesn’t count towards data caps

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  • Bryan Hamon

    I wouldn’t switch carrier for this but since I’m already with Videotron this is just an added bonus

  • JTon

    I’m in the target audience for this type of campaign. I stream a lot of music at home and at work, but my mobile data is too limited (thus too precious) to stream on the road. Big win for Videotron customers. Bad precedent for net neutrally though. I’m torn about that.

    • Kevin Owens

      I agree. I’m happy. I’m not torn because T-Mobile does the same and it treats all the streaming services the same anyways so it’s fair.

    • Eduardo

      Don’t get too excited though. Unfortunately, it’s only available for people on the newer premium contracts. It’s free to try until November but I’m definitely not switching plans just for this.

  • alexb88

    Interesting. The majority of my data usage is from Google Play Music. I switched from Videotron to Rogers recently, maybe I’ll switch back…

    • JTon

      I’m wondering if Rogers (and the rest) will respond. And if they do, I’m wondering if it’ll be in Quebec only :/

    • alexb88

      I’m sure they’ll respond by complaining to the CRTC lol

    • JTon

      lol

    • vn33

      Good one! Thnx for the chuckle!

  • mxmgodin

    I hope Videotron’s move will shake things up a bit. I am subscribed to a streaming music service, but I do most of my listening in “offline mode” because I feel like I would burn through my data quick enough. I’d really like a service like that to come to other carriers too.

  • Kyolux

    More worried about neutrality here than anything. Though it is good that they’re looking into adding more to the service.

  • malingerer

    wouldn’t this run into the same issue that Bell did with Bell Mobile TV? Where they had to remove the unlimited feature due to their not pricing it at the same rate as it would have to be sold to others? IDK YMMV, just wondering.

    • Kevin Owens

      I don’t think so because all the music streaming services are equal. They are all not counting on the data cap.

    • RR

      According to the article, there are certain services (like Apple Music) that will count towards the cap. Pretty sure that CRTC will have something to say about this.

    • Kevin Owens

      The article is wrong.

      On the Videotron website it states that every legal streaming service can and will be added to the service. They even urge people to send them messages to tell them which services should be added. Several people suggested Apple Music on their facebook page and they answered that they are already negociating for it.

      They are wide opened to adding all the services.

    • Okay, so would I be able to stream my own music through my Plex server without counting in my quota? As far as I know, running my own personal server, using software I licensed and music I purchased is entirely legal under my current usage.

      What Videotron is doing will ultimately lead to a slippery slope under net neutrality. I expect the CRTC to act on it.

    • Kevin Owens

      Right. Because running your music on Plex is totally called “music streaming service”. They explain on their website, very clearly, that as long as the service is a licences and legal streaming service, it’ll pass. In order to fit that definition, you need to have licences to stream the music to any user who would subscribe to your service. Your Plex server doesn’t apply and it sure as hell doesn’t jeopardize any competition against them since you are not their competitor.

      The CRTC won’t act on it same as the FCC didn’t act on T-Mobile’s version of this simply because it’s opened and there’s absolutely no proof Videotron is giving an advantage to their service before others. They are opening the gates and will add most services to this and so, it becomes fair for everyone. Therefore, not one of those streaming services will complain on it if they are added to the program, hence, the CRTC won’t do sh!t.

    • Which is why I find this ambiguity a bit scary. A bit is a bit, and I hope the CRTC will clarify its position on the matter soon.

    • Kevin Owens

      I agree.

  • Kevin Owens

    WOOHOO!

  • msb77

    Is Videotron offering this in the UK? …it’s a good move, the only way I could ever subscribe to a streaming service…

    • Patrick Cuyegkeng

      Videotron (at least this one) only operates in Quebec, Canada.

    • msb77

      I know, it’s a joke for Dan about the Moto review last night…

  • Kevin Owens

    “Similar to T-Mobile’s Music Freedom, customers who subscribe to the above services can listen all they want without the bandwidth used counted towards their monthly plan. Videotron offers three Premium plans, in which Unlimited Music is bundled, with data allotments ranging from 2GB to 6GB. ”

    That sentense is wrong. You don’t have to “subscribe” to anything. It’s automatic if you have a premium plan. Also, right now, anyone with a LTE sim card gets it automatically, regardless of the plan you have (promo period). Also, it applies to their 1gb if it’s in their Duo offer.

  • danbob333

    I don’t like it at all. Obvious violation of net neutrality.

    • Kevin Owens

      Explain that to me. So, if I say that everyone is allowed on the service and I discriminate against no one and none of the apps I allow on my network are mine, how is it against net neutrality?

    • danbob333

      You discriminate against every traffic which isn’t streaming music.
      On a neutral network, every packet is treated the same. Slowing down packets, or counting only some type of data towards a cap, are both examples of violation of the principle of net neutrality.

    • Exactly, under net neutrality, a bit is a bit. No matter where it comes from.

      One bit shouldn’t be costing something while another doesn’t under the same plan.

    • Kevin Owens

      Fair enough. I will admit, it is against net neutrality. But, reality is, when Bell TV was not counting data from their mobile TV app, it was giving them an unfair advantage against other similar products. I don’t see who would complain about this formula. While it’s against the principle of net neutrality, consumers will love it, streaming services will love it… service like netflix won’t care because it’s not threatening their business being a different category. Aside from a couple tech savy people going to the audience on the matter, I hardly imagine there would be enough to prevent this from working. It’s a case of bypassing the rule but everyone wins so no one cares.

    • danbob333

      I do complain. And everyone looses.

      Saying that consumers will love it is very short-sighted. If this is accepted, what would stop Videotron from offering a 1MB data cap but will unlimited streaming, facebook, youtube and google?
      Policies like that are the begining of giving users less freedom about which content they can access and which they can’t.

      Also, it is impossible for them to allow every single music streaming service. My own personal music streaming service isn’t on their list and never will.

    • Bryan Hamon

      Your own personal music streaming is not a music streaming “service,” it’s your own private network access. This cannot be helped since what they are doing is excluding traffic from the services listed most probably because they are coming to an arrangement with those services to pipe directly to Videotron’s data centre. Now I do think that it would be possible not count any data coming from anywhere on Videotron’s network so as long as you are making a direct connection to your server at home then you would never be leaving the network.

    • danbob333

      The point is not that they are connected “directly” to videotron or not. The cost of data, on the cables, is minimal. The real cost is from your cell phone to the tower. And it costs exactly the same whether it’s music or anything else. That’s why this is a very bad idea for the users.

    • Jean-Hearns Chaperon

      Thanks for educating us, I had never heard of net neutrality before. As you said, it would be much more ethical is the network was neutral, but at the same tine, as a consumer of streaming music, this new offer from Videotron is the only way I can use online music streaming at its full potential at a reasonable cost. In a perfect world mobile carriers would just lower the cost of data at a reasonable price, but in the meanwhile, this option is better than having to pay over 100$ for enough data to freely stream. What do you think ?

    • danbob333

      Of course music streamers will like this option. Because it means the rest of the users are going to subsidize your unlimited streaming. It’s just not fair for the others. And not being fair is one of the reason why a non-neutral network suck.

    • Kevin Owens

      I understand that you feel that way but you need to realize (which I find people commenting on like here always fail to realize) that most users are not like you. To them, they see streaming music with no data cap. End of story. 99% of the people are not informed like you and I and others that read sites like this one.

      To go back to my previous point, I retract myself. Someone WILL argue and complain. ROBELLUS. Bell specifically. They will fight all they can to hurt Videotron so I guess there will be a fight and big players will be involved. Bell will most likely bring their recent case on the table and Videotron will prove it’s not the same, but Bell doesn’t have grounds to fight this.

    • danbob333

      The fact that most people do not see how these policies restrict users freedom doesn’t mean they are right. Informed or not, everyone will suffer from lack of network neutrality.

    • fmradio68

      Data prices will not go down now in order to pay for the unlimited/zero rated data.

      Why not offer zero rated streaming on all the plans then. Not in their interest.

      This in the long run is not good for the consumer and sets a precedent.

    • Kevin Owens

      I didn’t say they were right. I said people on tech sites tend to forget how average people think and assume that because they know something is bad, everyone will see it. Unless Bell complains, no one is going to lift a finger for this except you. That was my point.

    • danbob333

      I get what you mean but I didn’t forget that the average user think. The average user doesn’t care about net neutrality and doesn’t even know what it means.

  • McNucklefuts

    I’m really impressed!
    This is a piece of competition they didn’t need to add, example being the stagnating big three, but did anyways.
    I’m not even a Quebec resident and I think it’s an amazing idea. So long as they leave it fairly open for what apps can be zero rated then I think the CRTC should leave it be.
    If there are back room payouts though, I think net neutrality needs to be more important.

  • rick

    doesn’t this just prove that charging per data usage is meaningless. I mean they justification for doing this is to limit usage to prevent saturation or make users pay for what they’re using. Why not just have reasonable data usage rates period. Why can the network absorb it if its music from one of these vendors vs youtube for example

  • Acrobat1991

    So since I have only 1g with them I’m SOL! Thanks but no thanks….not planning on spending more to get this “free”

  • redbarbvs

    The unlimited music is only available for clients who have an LTE SIM card or an LTE device running iOS or Android as per the free data agreement. That’s what Videotron’s support account (@Videotron24_7) said to me on Twitter.

    For those who have the BB Classic, Q10 and Q5… you’re out of luck even if you have a premium plan and can download and install Spotify, Stingray through the Amazon AppStore or Snap.

    • Bryan Hamon

      That is interesting, I wonder why it matters?

  • miketassle@gmail.com

    What phone is that??

    • Bryan Hamon

      I think it’s the Alcatel Onetouch Idol 3

  • JB

    Meh….its videotron…lol

  • MassDeduction

    As a consumer, this is the last thing I want. I want the carrier to embrace net neutrality in all things, and act by default just as a pipe. I want to be able to select whether I want to send voice, SMS, or data down the pipe, and not force-feed me all three. I want every option to be, well, optional.

    I also don’t want the spectrum I’m sharing being shared with people who will use it up streaming all day, every day. T-Mobile did this in the U.S. and has (anecdotally on HoFo) started to suffer more frequent congestion issues since than they have in the past.

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  • Why not just offer unlimited data for everything with a “fair usage” policy? Oh, right, money.

  • CanadianGuy37

    Wow, I hope this comes to other carriers. I’d switch carriers for this.

  • GPman

    How is this different than those offering unlimited talk and text service? Isn’t both of those things data as well? I’m confused. I’ve seen in the past places offering unlimited use of certain chat programs or social media sites too. Granted it’s probably not as much data, but still same effect.

  • El Capitan Morgan

    This is nice…. I hope Rogers and TELUS will follow but I guess I must be dreaming…..

  • Bray

    I’m sure Bell with their recent CRTC ruling on Mobile TV are pissed

  • Jacob Dagenais

    The CRTC should allow this on the condition they support any music streaming service they are asked to and has a significant traffic base on their network. Also the CRTC should say any platform. With these two conditions this would be a much welcome addition to our telecom ‘comptition’ let’s see how the big 3 screw it up.maybe it’ll only be avalible on their $100+ plans…

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