Mobilicity upgrading entire network to 4G, will enable download speeds of up to 21 Mbps


  • hurrdurr


  • Andy


    LTE is 4G. Spin it whatever way you want, but HSPA, HSPA+, or HSPA++ is not 4G.

    • Jon

      If you want to nic pic, LTE isn’t 4G either. The original definition of 4GB is 100mbps and only LTE Advance achieves this.

      Lookup Bell’s definition of 4GB, they say anything >3mbps is 4GB.

    • Ryan

      And we can blame T-Mobile for starting this mess and the ITU for caving into the american carriers to change the definition of 4G. Now it’s simply a marketing disaster.

    • OgtheDim

      Meh…marketing isn’t reality. Never judge and ndustry based on marketing defined metrics.

    • ehoustoun

      @Jon 4G does not stand for 4GB, it stands for fourth generation mobile communications technology. Technically yes LTE is 4G and 21Mbps is not, because it is still using HSPA technology just beefed up.

      I would say regardless as a mobilicity user a data speed increase is much needed and I look forward to the network getting on par with the other speedier HSPA networks.

    • Dave

      Never mind 3G or 4G, I can’t even make a phone call properly.
      What’s a joke and a half.

  • vengefulspirit99

    This is definitely a step in the right direction. Let’s hope they keep going in that direction

  • hoo dat

    Hang on, weren’t Mobi crowing about having 265,000 subs not long ago? Now it’s a rather vague “over” 200,000, where did all those subs go?

    I wouldn’t trust a single syllable that came out of Bitove’s mouth, he worse than Tony!

    • loler

      Why do you care how many customers a company have? Sounds like you’re not using Mobilicity, so why do you care if they have 4G or not anyway?

    • hoo dat

      So do you know where the 65,000 lost subs went? I’m sure Bitove would like to know where they are too.

  • ace

    “later this year” like in time for christmas 2013

  • steve


  • Alex Perrier

    Good news that are long overdue. This is a drastic increase from 3.6 Mbit/s (HSPA, comparable to EV-DO) with theoretical maximum speeds of up to 21.1 Mbit/s (HSPA+). Theoretical speeds are almost never attained. Even with TELUS, i had 12 Mbit/s ONCE, and typically max out at 4 Mbit/s despite a 21.1 Mbit/s possibility.

    To compare (not to say who’s better), Wind had 14.4 Mbit/s on August 24, 2011 with some regions at 21.1 Mbit/s. i’ve never been able to test out these speeds due to not having the 21.1 Mbit/s modem.

    Wind and the Big 3 actually have a “faux G” network. All of them threw around the “4G” moniker at one point. Some do it less now. Fido actually had a “HSPA+ isn’t 4G” article on their website, but they later buried it and gave in to the whole 4G/faux G trend.

    Never too late for Mobilicity. i am not sure how much this upgrade costs. Hopefully not a lot. Maybe it would have been better to save up for LTE? The spectrum auction will probably be a few months after Mobilicity’s faux-G network is built out, anyway.

    • Alex Perrier

      First and second paragraphs of mine are all theoretical speeds, not typical speeds.

  • Pablo Moses

    Keep the good work Mobi!

  • Juschilin

    How in the hell can they afford to do this with unlimited plans at $30. if it’s true – it sounds good but unless they are printing money somewhere it’s not sustainable.

    Wind – please buy these guys and put them out of their misery. I know some will say it does not help competition but I disagree.

    • T1MB0T

      Wind would need money to buy them. And they do not. Wind would need investorS they only have 1. And sadly Mobli is making headway while wind is stuck paying off long over due vendors, lawyers and HUGE international fines. Go mobli! Wind haaa haaaaa!

    • abc123

      How do you know it’s not sustainable?

      I think we are all brainwashed into thinking that sustainability means paying big 3 prices when in reality, the big 3 are reaping huge profits off each subscriber.

    • OgtheDim

      The sustainability is questionable because

      a) revenue per unit is being slashed

      b) costs are increasing

      Is it likely that revenue totals will cover the increased costs? In many people’s minds no but Mobilicity must think so (unless they are relying upon a white knight investor or setting themselves up for a buyout)

    • ehoustoun

      Not sustainable if you plan on buying professional sports teams, cable networks, electronics stores, and radio stations. Who knows if they’re sustainable for a company that is actually just a wireless company, I suppose time will tell.

      I guess my big question is if these rates are so unsustainable why the hell don’t people jump on board while they can and save themselves the money. Once they go under then you can go back to paying exorbitant wireless bills, you’re not exactly worse for wear doing that.

  • Mike D.

    Mobilicity desperately needs funding. Investors want to see higher subscription numbers. With this announcement and the recent price drops they are hoping to lure enough subscribers that investors will allow them to participate in the spectrum auction.

  • Jack

    No offense to Mobilicity but I hope upgrading the network also means lifting the 2Mb down throttle they have now.

    • haxor99

      I thought the throttle started at 5GB

    • Alex Perrier

      5 GB is the full speed limit for most of WIND’s unlimited plans, after which speeds of 256 kbit/s down and 128 kbit/s up apply. 10 GB of full speed is available for Internet sticks, hotspots and smartphone premium Internet access.

      Limited plans at WIND are 50 MB, 100 MB, 500 MB, 1 GB and 3 GB. The two latter are for Internet-only devices, while the MB allowances are for phones. Be careful, because if you go over, charges are 1¢/MB for Internet-only devices, 5¢/MB (rounded up to the nearest MB) for the 100 MB plan and as much as 20¢/MB for the 50 MB plan. Yikes!

      Mobilicity never revealed their throttling policy, only giving the vague idea that “too much” usage results in throttling or even suspension. The popular belief is that Mobilicity customers who use more than 100 MB in any 15-minute time slot will be throttled to slow speeds (like when WIND throttles) for the following two hours. When someone asked about this policy at a Howard Forums meeting, Stewart Lyons neither confirmed nor denied that such a throttling policy exists. It’s only a best guess.

  • Hank

    Mobilicity will go bankrupt before they ever think of launching a 4G LTE network.

  • ace

    they wont be participating in the auction probably… so lucky for wind 😛

  • johnson

    LOL this basically puts Public Mobile out of business their 3g data is so bad, and the phones that accompany them are even worse. Mobilicity is competing with Wind now or at least trying to, if they expand the coverage area footprint under 4g it will be good

    • Alex Perrier

      As much as i’m not a fan of them, Public Mobile’s website at least shows plans to add St. Catharines and Niagara Falls as “future coverage”. Mobilicity serves neither.

    • Elvis

      Facebook has switched back to fans for fan pages. Must be due to glehitcs found once they went live with the Like buttons. Will continue to post as it switches back to the Like button.

  • bozo

    Am I in a time machine that went back in time? Hello 2009!

  • haxor99

    This is great news. Once their 4G netowrk expands to my area I will have no choice to move to them.

  • MakesSense

    Mobilicity and Wind should just merge and take on Robelus as the nations 4th carrier..they would just have better chance at survival and with combined resources, be more competitive.Down with Robelus!

  • rogue17

    They need to merge and enter the Quebec by buying spectrum in Quebec. Videotron is as bad as the Big 3.

    • Allen

      Videotron is not as bad as the big 3, they are by far way worse. Unlimited Canada is 50$ with virgin and koodo, unlimited Quebec is 65$.

      With videotron you pay more for less!!!

  • Jer

    Awesome news. I’m sticking with them now, that’s for sure.

  • Mobi

    Mobilicity’s theoretical speed is that it will theoretically work.

  • Maple

    Considering that not all of Winds network is 21mbps this is definetely a differentiator for mobilicity.

  • Radar

    I would rather see some network expansion rather than network update.

  • Erik

    I would rather see a robust network in the area they serve now then a network that has holes that is expanding very fast.

  • frodo

    “On December 6, 2010, ITU-R recognized that these two technologies, as well as other beyond-3G technologies that do not fulfill the IMT-Advanced requirements, could nevertheless be considered “4G”, provided they represent forerunners to IMT-Advanced compliant versions and “a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed”

    So, yes, it is 4G, technically.

  • aregularonhofo

    I love this, funniest thing I heard in a long time, instead of claiming they have close to 300,000 subs like most delusional Fanboys do they are now just above 200,000 indicating a huge drop and while Mobilicity’s coverage map shrinks even little Public Mobile is expanding. Rather than stating Mobi will be 4G using marketing trickery (I’m peeing my pants now laughing) why not admit there are no funds left and the company is failing, the service speaks for itself and why people are leaving hopefully switching to Wind not back to the incumbents…if you want to blow your money on a fly by night provider go ahead and I assure you the BS will continue.

    I love these daily Telco jokes.

  • Big Ang

    I agree with Erik wholeheartedly. Having a robust network in a smaller area is much better than a swiss cheese network that covers far-off places that most people never go to.

    Sure, I MIGHT leave Mobilicity coverage once or twice a month and have to pay roaming fees, but that’s a small price to pay for having solid coverage where I live and work.

    Unless you’re in marketing and like colouring in maps with different colours, having coverage in an area where you don’t travel to is useless.

    • What city next?

      You keep implying that YOU don’t leave the city you live in (Markham or Richmond Hill, i presume?). Well, I can tell you, Canada is the second largest country in the world and kicks a*s.
      You also keep commenting that small towns are insignificant, which I totally disagree.
      You really need to get out more and see your adopted country. Or else, why did you come here?
      Just because you only stay in one place doesn’t mean all of Mobilicity’s customers also stay in one place. At least, I hope not! Maybe that’s why they’re in very big financial trouble, they have reached their market saturation point…cheap phones to lure in the customer, then they leave.
      Happens every month.
      BTW, close to 65,000 customers disappeared.
      I guess you’ll be the last customer, just don’t forget to close the door on the way out!

  • aregularonhofo

    In other words Mobilicity has no chance as a national provider and with a shrinking swiss cheese network including poor service and slow throttled data considering rates are so low they can’t even sustain themselves it is wise to switch to Wind Mobile now, probably why Mobi sub numbers are dropping so drastically and why with expanded coverage zones Globealive has a better chance of reaching more Canadians. Globealive is competing against the incumbents and in 5 markets Mobi is having a hard enough time keeping up with Public Mobile in only 2 who seem more sound/stable with almost equal amount of subs.

    • Erik

      Mobilicity has said that they have no plans to become a national carrier. They only plan on having coverage in the bigger cities.

  • icyhotonmynuts

    I wonder when Rogers will allow download speeds of “up to” 21mbps. I still only get 3mbps in Canada’s capital, with a device qualified to take advantage of the 21mbps.

  • Matt

    Is this going to happen to all five towers?

  • ActivesiN

    great news, I just upgraded to an htc amaze

  • Layla

    I live in Brampton and I had an account with mobilicity since May 2011 but after moving to bovaird area the reception was terrible!! I couldn’t call anyone or receive phone calls. I had not even 1 bar so I had not other choice than leave mobilicity so now I am stuck in a 3 expensive years with Bell. I do regret changing but Bell has the best reception. I hard to go from everyhting unlimited to everything got a price. Now Ihave to count the mins I use my phone so I don’t get extra charge but I think iif mobilicity wants to keep their people they need to fix the reception issues.

    • Jim

      I to live in Brampton, near 410 & Bovaird and my phone was unusable. Mobilicity refused to acknowledge the issue. My wife tried Public and had same issue, but they stepped up and admitted it and gave full refund. IF this upgrade happens and works in North Brampton, I MIGHT return.

  • Paul

    I had reception issues with wind in the Keele and Wilson area. Everywhere else is ok but it’s so annoying because I have to pass by their on the bus and as I get close to the intersection my connection cuts off. One time I was meeting a friend and I had to beg a hair salon to let me use the phone because the signal just wouldn’t come back. Same goes for my Wind hotspot so i switch to Mobilicity but maybe that wasnt the best idea

  • Allan

    Why all the Rogers haters? Most of you don’t know that they provide a valuable service to humanity. Without their marketing department, many ex-cons would be on the side walk begging for food. Their hiring of the mentally challenged reduces the burden on our social support system. They ensure that major corporations continually exceed their forecasts by purchasing massively expensive products that add very little value to delivering customer services. They help boost the economy of India and Russia since they realize that Canada is a wealthy nation that doesn’t require job creations – and they do this in-spite of those projects having massive cost overruns and often failing and costing more than if they were done in Canada. A big thank you to all Canadian customers who continue to support such a charitable organization because of the need to have the latest snob device and be the leading edge when it comes to consumerism even though you walk around with continually sore bottoms. Time after time you ensureensure that this kind hearted organization reaps record profits quarter after quarter.

  • Sweet

    In july, one of the Mobilicity employees in Vancouver told me their HSPA+ implementation was going live in December 2012.

  • Michael

    Mobilicity is Great. if wind and mobilicity were to combine the other companies like bell and rogers would be in for it “Windcity” Mobile 🙂

  • Allen Dawedow

    I am trying to pair/save my Mobolicity Galaxy 4G to my computer and am having a hard time finding a way to do this. Can someone email me a solution to this problem?