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Mobilicity sends Rogers a letter with their intentions if Chatr launches

Back on July 9th, Chairman of Mobilicity John Bitove said that Rogers new discount wireless brand “Chatr” is “trying to destroy our success” and should not be allowed to launch because of the “Abuse of Dominant Position” in the Competition Act where it states the “use of fighting brands selectively on a temporary basis to discipline or eliminate a competitor” is prohibited.

It’s known from the training presentation slides we posted that Rogers Chatr is expected to launch in same 5 core cities (Toronto, Calgary, Ottawa, Edmonton and Vancouver) and compete directly with new entrants Mobilicity, Wind and Public Mobile. In addition, Chatr is also rumoured to have a monthly couple plans which range from $35 and $45.

It like Mobilicity is kicking it up a notch! The Financial Post is reporting that Mobilicity’s Chairman John Bitove said their “legal counsel has served Rogers with a demand letter advising them of our intentions to pursue legal action should it launch the chatr brand in the manner that has been communicated so far”. Those are fighting words for sure. Bitove also stated that “we are very serious in that if this is solely about trying to undermine us, then we are going to fight back”.

It would be great to know what the letter actually said and to learn what their intentions are. What are your thoughts on all this… who will be victorious?

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72 comments for “Mobilicity sends Rogers a letter with their intentions if Chatr launches”

  1. People should write the competition bureau to ask then to investigate and take action. They are the one in charge or enforcing the competition act.

    Also don’t forget to CC the CRTC. Since they are the regulator, it is also their turf.

    (this assume that they can do something)

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    Posted by Hub | July 23, 2010, 5:32 pm
  2. Rogers, Bell and telus has a big monopoly bought from the goverment. They will do anything posible to crush the competition and keep canadians away from freedom. Finally its in the hands of the people to decide. Stay lousy or fight for it.

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    Posted by monopoly | July 23, 2010, 5:34 pm
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    Posted by apowerranger | July 23, 2010, 5:36 pm
  4. I think it’s time people start fighting back. It’s not like they’re coming in with a competitive offer. They’re just throwing something in to prevent their clients from going to the competition and keep them within the Rogers clientelle.

    The 3 mobile service giants have too much power and this makes our mobile market very uncompetitive. We are paying way too much money for what we get.

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    Posted by Alex | July 23, 2010, 5:44 pm
  5. @apowerranger

    More competition? if they wanted to lower prices, they could have just lower rogers price across the board, or at least lower fido’s prices. Making a new brand to crush the competition is not being competitive.

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    Posted by Tony | July 23, 2010, 5:56 pm
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    Posted by SUPERSTEVEMACGUY | July 23, 2010, 6:06 pm
    • Healthy competition would be using the Rogers, Telus, and Bell brands to compete so everyone can benefit from lower prices. All creating chatr does is keep those locked into Rogers locked into Rogers so they cannot benefit from the lower costs.

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      Posted by JonnyP | July 23, 2010, 6:54 pm
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    Posted by Jeff | July 23, 2010, 6:12 pm
    • It’s because we live in a nice country people are allowed to complain.

      And real problems? I can’t imagine you going on a campaign to stop global warming.

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      Posted by Martin | December 13, 2010, 11:39 pm
  8. All corporations are greedy. Mobilicity is no different from the Big 3 or other newbies. Competition will make Mobilicity’s investors less happier, who in turn makes the chairman of Mobilicity grumbles; but they will accept it as a fact eventually. I like the attitude of the chairman of WIND better.

    Canadian consumers want low price and good service and don’t care whether the service is from the Big 3 or the newbies as long as it is cheap and good. Both the competition Bureau and CRTC should protect Canadians rather than greedy corporations.

    A report says, Canadian wireless firms still tops in profit:

    http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/07/19/canada-wireless-profit.html

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    Posted by Breeze | July 23, 2010, 6:17 pm
  9. If what Rogers is doing in illegal, then stick it to em. Let the competition bureau handle this because any valid complaints, scams or illegal activity normally goes to the CRTC which, we all know, is under control of the big three.

    Normally I would say suck it us, but this is clearly a VERY dirty and illegal tactic by Rogers. Don’t be surprised if Telus and Bell do the same in 6 months if nothing is done.

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    Posted by Terry | July 23, 2010, 6:27 pm
    • 6 months? it has been said it will be right away.. they will slash prices and do the deed. It has been said many many times.. the little ones are on borrowed time.. they can blame jabroni for this.. while they all just were getting along he had to begin to believe his own press and paint a bullseye on all their backs.. Thanks Tony Jabroni.. Your a star!

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      Posted by rocco stiffreddi | July 23, 2010, 7:04 pm
  10. I don’t understand why Mobilicity is so sick of this.
    If their company is strong with their plans, their services, there is nothing to be afraid.
    Just do whatever they can do for the business.
    Chatr does not launch yet, but they had already waving their flag.
    How can they survive in the game??
    Good Luck to you Mobilicity.

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    Posted by why | July 23, 2010, 6:28 pm
    • The reason is very simple. If the short term market opportunity for the new entrants is 5% of the current market and Rogers, Bell and Telus swoop in with Chatr, Solo and Koodo respectively, and take let’s say 3% of that 5% market by offering comparable pricing, it would kill off Mobilicity, WIND, etc… As soon as they are gone, they buy the spectrum, raise the prices back up and we are right back to where we started with this whole thing.

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      Posted by JonnyP | July 23, 2010, 6:51 pm
  11. @SUPERSTEVEMACGUY

    it would be perfectly fine if Rogers lowered their own plans. Instead they’re building a whole NEW BRAND just to compete with the new entrants because apparently Rogers Mobile is a cash cow and they don’t want to get rid of their high value customers

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    Posted by nomnomnom | July 23, 2010, 6:37 pm
  12. Mobilicity is only located in Toronto now. Why don’t they focus on getting their other cities launched than worry about Rogers. Show people that you can compete rather than complain. Bring us the competition you promised us.

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    Posted by Parson | July 23, 2010, 6:38 pm
  13. rogers has 2 brands, telus has 2 and bell has 3, so its ok for bell to have three but no one else? Rogers isnt looking to bring on the people who would want to use chatr, chatr is meant for no frills with basic phones. Why are you so worried? The point is to make money, thats why they are in the game, if someone starts taking that, then you try and get it back, business 101 people.

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    Posted by SUPERSTEVEMACGUY | July 23, 2010, 6:46 pm
    • The only reason Bell has 3 is because they purchased Virgin.

      It’s not about the number of brands they own, it’s about how they use the brands.

      Imagine SUPERSTEVEMACGUY that I own all the grocery stores in town, and slowly over the years, my prices for the goods that I sell get ridiculously high because there is no competition and I get to set the pricing.

      You decide that you want to start up your own store. You know that you can compete with me because you can offer lower pricing and better service. The expectation would be that I would be forced to lower prices at all my stores in order to keep people happy and in my stores.

      But a lot of those people have club cards, so they feel obligated to continue shopping at my store. And instead of lowering prices, I build a new grocery store about a block from your store, and at that store I undercut your pricing by a margin that I know if you were to match would put you out of business.

      Once you’re out of business, I clap my hands, re-brand the store, raise prices back up and that’s the end.

      This is an example of abusing market dominance and creating a competing brand with the sole purpose of driving the other company out of business, which is most definitely illegal. If you can’t see Rogers doing the same thing here you are either blind or work for Rogers.

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      Posted by JonnyP | July 23, 2010, 7:14 pm
    • well said

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      Posted by fadi | July 24, 2010, 2:48 am
    • well the only reason rogers has fido is because they bought them, so whats the big deal?

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      Posted by SUPERSTEVEMACGUY | July 24, 2010, 12:18 pm
  14. Rogers has a crack legal team on this.. it has been said its been in the works for a year. I think the big issue is the little players are upset that right out of the gate Chat-r will allow any of over 500 handsets ( closer to 800 ) to work on their network, a network thats far better and more reliable than the little ones..

    You wanna pick a fight come into my yard.. well Chat-r is doing that.. and the little ones are off to get their crying towel.. I am sure all 3 of the new kids are engaged in a cluster-cry. John is holding jabroni’s hand.. and saying.. damm boy thats a shiny suit!

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    Posted by rocco stiffreddi | July 23, 2010, 7:01 pm
  15. As long as the consumer keeps paying – the pricing will keep going up! How many would give up their mobile devices? I doubt any – especially the young adults.
    So maybe a little bit of fault lies within all of us.
    The consumers great demand caught the attention of those that saw the potential for the big money.
    If 1 household all acoss the country gave up 1 mobile device (cause you all know there are at least per home)& the Big 3 were out money, then maybe the consumer would see the change. Cause at the end of the day the consumer “pushes” the product.

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    Posted by Marie | July 23, 2010, 7:03 pm
  16. I am a bit confused by some of the comments. I think we are all forgetting about the actual network.

    People have been complaining for lower prices for years and Mobilicity was going to bring that to the Canadian consumer. They are a company that won’t have the most reliable of networks definitely won’t cover the same areas. They will probably have great customer service though…at the beginning.

    Rogers is bringing Chatr to the market. They have a reliable, well established network. They are also planning on offering similarly priced plans.

    I do agree that Rogers is trying to undercut the new competition, but does anyone really care? I mean, if you get the same thing with Chatr and they have a larger coverage area, why not pick them? There will be other ‘Mobilicity’s’ in the future.

    New competitors need to bring something NEW to the table; Not just lower prices with a sub-par network.

    I am asking Mobilicity to forget suing Rogers. Use all that money that you will spend on the lawsuit and use it to think of something NEW; Something that will add value to your brand as well as to the Canadian consumer.

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    Posted by Kronk86 | July 23, 2010, 7:03 pm
    • I couldn’t agree with you more.

      Why join a new company, where everything from their service to their reception is unstable, when you have a reliable network like Rogers. Don’t get it.

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      Posted by uglay | July 23, 2010, 7:17 pm
  17. @Tony

    If Rogers lowered it’s prices to, say, Mobilicity levels, they would still b***h about Rogers attacking them.

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    Posted by apowerranger | July 23, 2010, 7:05 pm
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    Posted by JAWG | July 23, 2010, 7:12 pm
    • You are so dead on with this my friend. But do not worry.. Wind and the rest all know they are in trouble.. it is not about being loyal. its about the money.. you know it I know it jabroni knows it.. excellent post on the HF BTW splaining wind and its failure

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      Posted by rocco stiffreddi | July 23, 2010, 11:06 pm
  19. Good for mobilicity, way to sure you got a pair. still not ganna sign up with you, but sue rogers!!!!!!!!!!!! and bell if you can

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    Posted by Raj | July 23, 2010, 8:01 pm
  20. I laugh at the fact that uninformed people are cheering on Mobilicity,in fact it is just a ploy to frighten Rogers by getting needed publicity because they are failing just like Wind/PM and in the long run will benefit no one except Chat-R…to push this case it will take millions which this new entrant doesn’t have for legal costs which is why Wind has staying out of the mess so far which is the only sensible thing they have done recently considering they don’t want their history reviewed and if it goes through will take years to compete where by then Chat-R will be far ahead of all Newbies.So far the Newbies have contributed anything useful and that is why they are doomed to fail…their best would be to actually compete and show some balls.

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    Posted by JAWG | July 23, 2010, 8:12 pm
  21. @JAWG
    I bet you are on a really high commission for Rogers.

    Good for Mobilicity. Rogersès actions should be illegal including the new bandwith limitation of their internet service. They think they can do whatever they want by raping the consumers and yes they can because the government supports them.

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    Posted by Mo Sh | July 23, 2010, 8:56 pm
  22. I love the way Mobile Syrup deletes anything that doesn’t appeal to them as long as it’s the truth against the providers they support,bias and just what you would expect from individuals who are against Rogers with no logic and only hate that reflect on them…that will never stop Chat-R and actually will make others support them further.

    Some of you are truly delusional in thinking Mobilicity/Wind/PM are on your side and that they hold you close to their hearts.Just remember one thing…it ain’t over until the fat lady sings and she just got on stage.

    Good luck Chat-R!!!

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    Posted by JAWG | July 23, 2010, 9:17 pm
  23. I don’t work for Rogers or any of the other providers,I can just think for myself unlike all you Fanboys who need a gang to make a point that is useless with no merit…whether it’s next week/a month from now/later Chat-R will launch and I hope they bring down the new entrants who are making a joke out of this industry.

    If they wanted to compete they would have shown integrity by doing it instead of whining calling for legal intervention to help them since they are failing because of their own lack of creativeness and that’s the kind of companies you support.For all I care Mobilicity can waste millions they don’t have on legal fees,the sooner they will fail and show what a mistake it was to support them just like Wind/PM…these are not true providers with a sound direction and all they are is hype with a cult following that borders on insanity.

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    Posted by JAWG | July 23, 2010, 9:31 pm
  24. Wasn’t Mobilicity also supposed to launch in Montreal? Anyone know what happened to those plans?

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    Posted by Jacky | July 23, 2010, 9:39 pm
    • yes where is Montreal we only get PM the old cdma network come on.

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      Posted by Mike | July 24, 2010, 10:23 am
  25. Mobilicity would be better off spending its time and money expanding its service beyond Toronto; even in the GTA its still far from complete both in terms of geography and full functionality (from what I read, problems with roaming, LD, etc.).

    I have to agree with those who have written that Wind looks better for taking the high road and saying, “bring it on, we’re not afraid of a little more competition”.

    It occurs to me that Rogers Communications, by not including data on Chatr, is securing an argument that is is not competing with “full service” carriers like Wind and Mobilicity. In any case, Mobilicity will not survive to convince a court that Chatr is a temporary service designed to damage another.

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    Posted by donald | July 23, 2010, 9:54 pm
  26. @donald, Come on now. Rogers ain’t offering data on Chatr because where do you think all those high-end smartphone users on the premium Fido/Rogers brands will move to? That’s right, they’d all go to Chatr and profits would plunge. Instead Rogers is saying “Sorry, if you want data or any knod of smartphone functionality, you can’t get unlimited anything. You have to come to Fido/Rogers for that.”

    That is not competition. That’s just slimy.

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    Posted by Justin Credible | July 24, 2010, 12:25 am
  27. @JC:

    That makes no logic whatsoever,the majority of people who would go to Chat-r wouldn’t want Smartphones or data or need them,they want unlimited with call features and possibly some text;so that breaks Mobilicity’s legal case since technically they won’t be competing with each other if they don’t have data and the brand should be allowed.Plus if Rogers can prove that they were planning this long ago just like Solo who wants to change Mobilicity has no grounds to argue and time would be better spent fixing their network/service/etc which is still pathetic like the other new entrants.Nothing slimy with Chat-R…just fear on Mobilicity’s part and an inability or desire to really compete.

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    Posted by JAWG | July 24, 2010, 1:46 am
  28. Why does Mobilicity keep “showing their hand”???

    *facepalm*

    Silly Mobi, you had them in the right spot twice now and you just yell “legal action” from your corner! Now Rogers can go back to the drawing board and counter you. You should have stayed silent and let Rogers walk right into the trap. It would have been a perfect trap.

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    Posted by Plazmic Flame | July 24, 2010, 2:10 am
  29. I am a Mobilicity customer and I strongly recommend them to focus on improving their existing plans by offering more perks so customers won’t sign up with Chatr. I have had my time with Rogers and hate them for what they do by ripping customers off. I want Mobilicity to succeed and in order to succeed and defeat Chatr, they will have to offer a few more perks in their plans. They recently revamped some of their plans, which is a good start.

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    Posted by naveed | July 24, 2010, 2:49 am
  30. @naveed

    Mobilicity doesn’t have the resources to play the “price game” with Rogers. If they lower their prices, chatr will just undercut themselves until Mobilicity calls it quits. Rogers will pull chatr out or raise prices with bs excuses, “ya inflation is hitting us hard, or overhead prices are raising out of control.’ Bam! Back to square one, high prices forever.

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    Posted by Tony | July 24, 2010, 3:27 am
  31. I am not sure if any of the posters here sujpporting rogers has ever been outside of canada and seen what the rest of the world has to offer for comparitive cell phone price plans.

    You can whine all you want about canada’s landmass and low population, but the high profits that the big three make year after yearshow this is a flasehood. the big 3 take the profits and run rather than investing in coverage and services.

    rogers opening chatr and the leaked price plans demonstrates that rogers is overcharging for the exact same services on their ‘premium’ brands.

    people like JAWG conveniently forget this and do what they are obviously paid to do, which is distract the conversation and try and hide the fact that rogers is ripping us off and has been for years. if there was actual competition in the market profits would be less for the major players.

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    Posted by KV | July 24, 2010, 7:53 am
    • Yes, I have travelled outside Canada quite a bit (Asia, Europe, USA), enough to know that it’s a fools game to compare the markets or the wireless businesses in the various nations. Everytime I read about the loe fees ithe USA I wonder why no one mentions the regulatory recovery fees I see in the very small print in the ads inThe New York Times. When I read that in many countries in Europe the government manages the placement ot transmission towers, I wonder if Canadians want Ottawa doing that. When I look at Asia and see millions of customers in an area the size of downtown Toronto I wonder what the price would be if they had to cover a country the size of Canada. It’s not a case of comparing apples and apples.

      Wireless may look expensive here, but our wired service in cheap and reliable compared to countries where such service hardly exists for anyone except government officials. Those governments may directly or indirectly subisidise wireless as a way to biuiild the economy. Here we don’t need to do that.

      Markets and prices have a way of regulating themselves. Companies want to make the largest profits for their investors but if their prices are too high sales will drop and profits decrease. A smart company knows how to find the balance.

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      Posted by donakd | July 24, 2010, 9:33 am
  32. Sign up with Chatr = financing the terrorists group.

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    Posted by Timehaschanged | July 24, 2010, 12:17 pm
    • Terrorists? I think you would be surprised to find out Orascom is on such a list thanks to Ms Clinton. Therefore if Orascom is on this list, they are funding Globalive which is Wind.. Therefore I think Wind is the one you shouldbe worried about.

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      Posted by rocco stiffreddi | July 24, 2010, 1:07 pm
    • @Timehaschanged I agree to Rocco one dollar spent on Wind in Canada is sponsoring to the other end sooner or later one blast in Iraq or Afghanistan or somewhere else victimizing innocent people like it or not this might be the fate of your dollar supporting such companies

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      Posted by Mateo | July 24, 2010, 4:44 pm
  33. KV:

    You’re implying that I’m working for a specific PROVIDER and that I’m on here simply to cause distraction because I am being logical in making honest opinions on the subject where instead FANBOYS for a specific company are on here strictly because they hate Rogers which is completely bias considering millions of people use them happily like all the other Big Three and have no real significant rebuttals making their remarks totally hilarious based on nothing except ignorance,I already told you I do not work for Rogers/Bell/Telus or anyone else and never will…so don’t even go there.

    I lived in Italy/England/Japan and traveled during those times,so you don’t have to educate me on how things are overseas when it comes to this issue and you’re right circumstances are grossly different….however that has nothing to do with landmass/population either and more so with better laws/tighter regulations/strong government guidelines which forces providers to compete and keep rates fair.Still,that necessarily doesn’t make all their networks superior to us since I have encountered many poor companies there also,one good example is Wind-Italy who are known for their shady actions/performance in the way they were bought/sold and which resulted criminal charges by the Police.This is why I find it funny how Orascom the biggest Bad Wolf in the industry entered our market and how unfortunately we got stuck with them which is really sad.

    Just because Mobilicity takes legal action against Rogers doesn’t mean you get instant competition or lower rates which makes this approach laughable,in fact by supporting this nonsense you are only stopping progress and that’s why the Big Three are making high profits…what we need to do is to destroy the CRTC,force governments to totally revamp the system and push our people to think for the future by getting involved.Will this be done soon,not really when you have fools on here trying to stop new brands from coming in and not insisting that the new entrants prove themselves before they get loyalty…and I hate to tell you this but at the moment this is all we have until our citizens truly band together instead of forming gangs for unworthy companies and move on this agenda together.Again,Big Deal…so Mobilicity wins their case which they won’t and what happens next…they build a strong customer base and raise prices in the future to please their shareholders and not us.It’s much better to allow as many brands as we can into the market for the moment to give individuals choices to spread out the market and while that happens band together to make the changes that are needed…it’s the only way for now and if the new entrants are eventually bought out it’s not because of lack of support and more so because they lacked the ability to build sound networks.Mobilicity willing to waste millions in court to stop competition for their own benefits and less to improve their service…just a joke.I say prove yourself first and show your integrity to get the support you need.

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    Posted by JAWG | July 24, 2010, 12:28 pm
  34. Supporting Chatr = Financing Robbers Wireless to Rob us!

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    Posted by Timehaschanged | July 24, 2010, 2:26 pm
    • Are you working for mobilicity or what ?

      Posting the something every hour !

      You sound just like Bush, saying stuff for your own good to make penny.

      I might say the something if I was a Mobilicity shareholder!

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      Posted by MuRaNo | July 24, 2010, 3:34 pm
    • So, are you telling us that frequent poster are working for the corresponding carrier ? If so, then this forum is a carrier warzone. Majority of poster are frequent posters.

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      Posted by Timehaschanged | July 24, 2010, 4:52 pm
  35. I think it’s completely amazing that a mobile company would take legal action against Rogers for trying to enter the market with a new brand since Chat-R is not in direct competition with Mobilicity considering they don’t have data,yet Mobilicity has the gull with their inferior service collecting money for beta testing to do this after introducing a plan to Pakistan initially knowing it’s costly just to attract happy customers and then remove it with no suitable replacement when the plans were abused…this is a lot more serious under the Fair Competition Act than Rogers trying to launch Chat-R which they are legally entitled to do and I know they will eventually win .By the way,I am not connected to the Pakistan community since I am Canadian-Italian although I have many good friends from that region who struggle to call home and again I don’t work for any provider….I am just standing up for these individuals after giving Mobilicity a chance and seeing how much integrity they also lack.Mobilicity is as bad as Wind and if Rogers is smart they will fight this completely to the end by also changing their attitude to treat Canadians fairly and finally changing their attitude for the good of the nation.None of the new entrants/CEO’s have shown any class and so far all of this companies have just been meaningless hype which would be something to worry about if I were a shareholder considering the way funds will be wasted instead of improving the network to compete.

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    Posted by JAWG | July 24, 2010, 4:11 pm
  36. Why am being charged System Access Fee at Rogers ?

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    Posted by joeblow333333 | July 24, 2010, 4:56 pm
  37. What I don’t understand is that why doesn’t Mobilicity just accept the challenge this way Mobilicity will have more competition . Mobilicity could always bring uop new schemes why is mobilicity freaking out. Cellphone wireless companies should have competition. For example the carriers in Europe like Vodafone, O2 and Hutch and much more have a lot of competition. The same is in India competition is everywhere in the world, but there are too many political debates in Canada. This is what is holding down Canadian wireless carriers and as well is the CRTC. Its nonsense.

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    Posted by Amandeep | July 24, 2010, 5:55 pm
  38. @Amandeep

    That’s it plain and simple,force the government to make proper regulations/guidelines/etc for competition with no more debates and throw out the useless CRTC…let the good companies grow and let the bad ones die.I tried both Wind and Mobilicity and they’re both crap technically speaking,has nothing to do with them being new as I had great providers in Europe that were just starting out with minimal problems and the selection was wide…Mobilicity crying about unfairness is just a joke to cover up the fact they are scared and it’s good to see Rogers ready to fight back.If the new entrants thought the Big Three were going to just sit back and take the insults from FANBOY ANDROID HATERS of the company on worse networks that is a a complete joke…while the Big Three have lost minimal by now I can eventually see investors running from the new entrants and rightly so.

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    Posted by JAWG | July 24, 2010, 7:27 pm
  39. Whatever JAWG. Great to see Rogers fighting back? How exactly are they fighting back? they’re trying to squeeze out the competition with their monopoly on GSM. I finally tried both WIND and Mobi now and they’re both a lot better than people think and what you say. I think you’re full of it and have a low paying job at Rogers.

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    Posted by TCom | July 25, 2010, 9:24 pm
  40. TCoom:

    Rogers is fighting back to keep the business they have,unlike Mobilicity who instead of competing is wasting money on a useless legal issue and doing very little to improve their service/network just like Wind…say what you will…I tried both companies and they are absolutely pathetic in every way and that’s why many will jump to Chat-R as soon as it launches which it will.Maybe when you can come up with a logical answer you can post again and like all the Fanboys you don’t have much to say.

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    Posted by JAWG | July 25, 2010, 10:25 pm
  41. JAWG the sad fact is now that someone else is on the block they are all worried. Look I have said it time and time again its about money not who is loyal to what. They are not going to change how things are done anytime soon.. the rules are not perfect, look at Winds end run around the rules.. it is what it is.. the winners will win and the losers will crumble.

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    Posted by rocco stiffreddi | July 26, 2010, 12:39 am
  42. Why can’t Rogers launch this in all major cities? This would be great in the prairie provinces. We don’t get City Fido here. Why do only the biggest cities get these Unlimited deals? And why no EDGE Data at least on Chatr? It doesn’t even have to be unlimited data, just something more reasonable…

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    Posted by Nico | July 26, 2010, 2:36 am
  43. JAWG – they’re not fighting back to “keep the business they have”. I’m sorry – do they offer unlimited plans at present? No they don’t. They’re fighting to push the new entrants out of the market. Then the rates go up. Just like they did with City Fido. So jumping to Chatr is not a good idea. Except for a Rogers fanboy like you.

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    Posted by TCom | July 26, 2010, 10:26 am
  44. nioo – its not coming to the prarie provinces because Wind and mobi aren’t there. This is about driving them out.

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    Posted by TCom | July 26, 2010, 10:28 am
  45. I can’t understand some of the people posting on this board.

    Chatr is an example of how as wireless consumers we have been overcharged for years. The big 3 have formed a collective monopoly and over-inflated wireless service costs.

    Forget the discussion about 3g and data it is irrelevant. Compare an apples and apples approach. What would it cost you to get unlimited calling (incoming and outgoing Canada wide) with rogers at the moment?

    As for Rogers being reliable… I don’t know what you people are talking about. Bell coverage far surpasses that of Rogers and I have never heard of anybody complaining about reliability of the bell network. For me coverage trumps any pseudo notions of “reliability”. I regret the day I signed on with rogers. Three year contracts? I have had car loans which have been shorter.

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    Posted by KV | July 26, 2010, 11:01 am
  46. TCom:

    Fanboys claim a huge amount of users are leaving Rogers/the rest of the Big Three when that isn’t true,however they’re completely scared if Chat-R launches because realistically they know deep down that many unsatisfied customers from the Newbies will cancel to join the new brand because with no doubt Mobilicity/Wind/PM have both poor service/lousy network at this point…if you were Rogers you’d be doing the same thing and they are fighting to keep their business by introducing the new brand and competing instead of whining like the Newbies.

    If you actually believe that if Chat-R doesn’t launch it will be better for consumers that is laughable or that if Mobilicity wins their legal battle against Rogers after wasting so much time they won’t raise prices also in time if they have a bigger client base that is even more funny,the only way we can keep rates reasonable at this point considering the political circumstances is to have more brands and not give Newbies any credibility until they actually perform to earn it…Zombies can walk around in their Fanboy clubs promoting whoever they want completely brainwashed but that won’t improve the industry and like I said unless the government changes things drastically soon this is the best competition we’ll have for now.

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    Posted by JAWG | July 26, 2010, 1:24 pm
  47. I will agree with KV on one point,I never had any problems when using the Bell network/coverage/service and it was superior…however their rates/billing/etc is a different thing and I hope their attitude changes soon.It was reliable with no major dropped calls or problems that would warrant cancellation.Compared to Rogers it was better,however Rogers has caught up and fixed most of their problems…which is what the Newbies should do instead of demanding loyalty before they perform well or whining when customers are paying for their beta testing when it’s really not worth it and won’t be for years.I mean after 6 months Wind’s service in Oakville is still pathetic and all they do is brag how they are expanding…I welcome all the new brands and hope there will be more.

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    Posted by JAWG | July 26, 2010, 1:49 pm
  48. Being a Consumer advocate I am a little stunned that people fail to see the point of what Rogers is doing. It is clearly unfair business practices and anti-trust; the abuse of a dominate position in a market. If it is not why is Chatr not national a stupid and obvious question? If you live in Barrie why the hell is the service only available in GTA? Why as a Rogers customer in Barrie can you not get Chatr???
    Wake up!!

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    Posted by Reg | July 26, 2010, 2:27 pm
    • Reg need you be reminded this is just the first phase.. unlike wind or the others rogers can expand quicky and easily. Some have said its a day to ” make the network hot ” so pls relax. It will all be over soon.

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      Posted by rocco stiffreddi | July 27, 2010, 8:01 pm
  49. JAWG is a rogers employee. Ignore him. Confess JAWG.

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    Posted by TCom | July 26, 2010, 3:01 pm
  50. News flash Rogers activated 348,000 more customers in the quarter, Wireless data revenues grew by 40% compared with a year earlier. And they still want to crush the new entrants and eliminate competion before Wind Mobilicity Public or anyone else can get off the ground. Keep feeding the Red Robber people.

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    Posted by Reg | July 27, 2010, 10:28 am
  51. Roger cuts monthly download on lite ands extreme internet packages on the announcement of Netflix entering the market. Umm Rogers as your ISP is now impeding the success of a competitor to their Video stores and Rogers on demand services. Again anti-trust.

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    Posted by Reg | July 27, 2010, 12:50 pm
  52. @TCom:

    Keep rambling on and hope Wind promotes you…excellent work!!!

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    Posted by JAWG | July 27, 2010, 5:22 pm
  53. This is really getting HILARIOUS…Chat-R hasn’t even launched yet to test the waters in the market and some of you morons already want them to go nation-wide.I wish they would,just to watch the majority of you hypocrites run to them and start praising the change…I doubt if many would remain loyal to Wind or Mobilicity if that did happen who have only proven they are unworthy and consistently have shown they are a complete joke.

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    Posted by JAWG | July 27, 2010, 5:37 pm
  54. Mobilicity just shut down their 6 major corporate stores in GTA for financial or business reasons. Is this the issue?
    NO!
    The issue is their credibility. They threatened to sue Rogers but chickened out, they launched unlimited Pakistan Plan but chickened out, they have closed most of their major corporate stores and claim to open new smaller ones at some point in time in the future – will they chicken out on this as well?

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    Posted by Sean Caldwell | August 22, 2010, 10:42 am
  55. Perhaps he should try to stop the abuse to people who use his USB modems who can only get download speeds of 7 kb/sec. on Steam. Sure, its unlimited downloads, but whats the use if it takes 22 hours to download one computer game. Not their fault though right. Looks like another Pennant resources to me.

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    Posted by J Goldmaker | September 14, 2010, 2:39 pm

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