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Koodo to exclusively launch Prepaid services with Walmart Canada


Interesting move here by TELUS’ sub-brand Koodo Mobile. We’ve been tipped for the past month about a new prepaid offering – something completely different than their current set up of buying a phone at retail pricing, or the Tab system.

Apparently Koodo will exclusively work with Walmart Canada and offer Prepaid phones and plans. This will go into place starting August 20th and the phones are meant for prepaid only, will not work on the Tab phones. At launch you can expect to see the LG Optimus One (priced at $98.83 at Walmart) and the Samsung Galaxy Ace (priced at $148.83 at Walmart). The prepaid rate plan packages fall under talk, text and data and here’s some of the details we’ve been able to gather up:

- $15 for Unlimited text
- $25 for Unlimited text and 7PM evenings and weekend
- $35 for Unlimited incoming and texting and 5PM evening and weekends
- $50 for Unlimited local calling and text

- Minutes are purchased in units and can be rolled over to the next month (account must be in good standing and active):
- 1 unit = 1 minute of Canada-wide calling
- 2 units = 1 minute calling the United States
- 5 units = 1 minute international calling

- 25 units for $5
- 100 units for $10
- 500 units for $25

Data:
- 100MB $10
- 500MB $25
- 1GB $35

We’ll have more info on this shortly.
(Thanks tipster!)

  • Munir

    Meh…

  • ns.dev

    I think this has been coming for a while as the Koodo site used to say postpaid for each of the phone specs.

    Looks good for someone who rarely used their phone. I assume the units will have an expiry like most other pre-paid (and rolled over should more be purchased).

  • T1MB1T

    This is a crime! They tell wind to get out of the store and let one of the devils own in? How is this fair! Tony will have something to say about this!!!

  • Cody

    These prices are terrible..

    • ns.dev

      and what do you expect for prices from a telecommunication company in Canada?

  • superfly

    Canada wide calling? Or just local? Sucks the hot sausage.

    • ns.dev

      It’s right in the article…

      - 1 unit = 1 minute of Canada-wide calling
      - 2 units = 1 minute calling the United States
      - 5 units = 1 minute international calling

  • superfly

    - $15 for Unlimited text- $25 for Unlimited text and 7PM evenings and weekend- $35 for Unlimited incoming and texting and 5PM evening and weekends- $50 for Unlimited local calling and text

    LOCAL under the $50 plan.

    Loser

  • superfly

    It’s right in the article. Duhduhduhduh

    Loser

  • superfly

    CID+VM.? It’s not in the article.

  • EvanKr

    I wish that Walmart would launch their Straight Talk service in Canada, unlimited talk, text, and data for $45 a month with nationwide coverage (they tower share with AT&T, so I assume that they could share with Rogers here). They’d make great competition for Wind or Mobi, and could pose a serious threat to the Big 3.

    • joe

      I think you seriously underestimate what makes those kinds of plans viable in the states, and why canada will never be like that. In the states you put up a cell tower you hit 100 customers, here unless you are in an urban you put up a tower you get 10. So this means money available for infrastructural is a lot less. Would these plans be nice yes, but if you really want them then move to the states. And here I go for getting downvoted to infinity

    • EvanK

      @joe

      AT&T is one of the world’s most valuable companies. They make a $#!% load of profits off of each customer, and although Canada’s population is much less dense and collects less customers per tower, the Big 3′s ARPU is still ridiculously high, and they make a killing. While those types of plans still wouldn’t make as much of a profit as they would south of the 49th parallel, they’d still make quite a profit here. Besides, much of the Canadian area doesn’t need to be covered, such as the majority of Northern Canada aside from cities.

    • Daniel AJ

      Actually, Walmart is not tower-sharing. Walmart US is selling a service rendered by TracFone, which, again, does not tower-share. According to Wikipedia they are an MVNO and thus they do not have transmitters they could mount on someone else’s tower. Nor do they have sepctrum rights. If the MVNO label by Wikipedia is correct, then TracFone operates a core network, but uses air interfaces of T-Mobile, AT&T and Claro (for GSM) and Verizon and Sprint (for CDMA).

      There are various levels with different technical approaches and business models: Resellers, Service Providers, Enhanced, Service Providers, MVNO (and MVNE), (National) Roaming, transmitter sharing (relatively new), and tower sharing. This list does not claim to be complete, but please do not confuse those terms. A leased car is not a taxi. :-)

    • Daniel AJ

      @joe Your assessment is too simplistic and thus, I’m sorry to say, wrong. There are economies of scale in the US, yes, from sourcing hardware to advertisement. But in customer service and networks these are rather limited.

      In densly populated areas it is very expensive to provide good coverage and high capacity. Canada doesn’t have a lot of these expensively coverable areas. Canada has a lot of low-density area indeed. But you won’t find coverage there anyway.

      Rogers and Bell/Telus have insane profit margins. Networks are, with a few locals exceptions, not state of the art and customer service is lousy (someone should tell them about customer centric processes – sound like bullshit bingo but t has merit). I don’t have to tell you about price levels.

      All of that is a clear sign of a very low level of competition.

      (sorry for posting this in the wrong thread earlier)

  • HighClassFrenchCricket

    Ice cold deal lol. Dodoo should be embarassed. Shame has been achieved.

  • EAK47

    Koodo and Walmart… Welcome to the annual meeting of crappy stuff

  • Big Ang

    Makes sense for Telus – a way to make use of their CDMA infrastructure. The prepaid prices aren’t that bad (they range from 5cents to 20cents per minute) IF they end up being like Speakout or PetroCanada and allow the minutes to last for year, and not a month like the regular prepaid plans.

    • SDS

      Not sure what cave you’ve been hiding in, but Koodo hasn’t used CDMA in over a year. NO one, not even Telus,Rogers, Bell and their brands sell phones that are CDMA anymore, so really your comment is ignorant.

    • ns.dev

      Both the LG Optimus One, and the Samsung Galaxy Ace are HSPA based, so I doubt they’ll use CDMA at all.

    • T1MB1T

      way to go BA! YOU are supposed to uphold the AWS goodness and now you make a total fool out of yourself. Warren was right you will never be a member of the no gag reflex club! Johnn that crusty tosted turd is another story!

      WIND!!

  • Cell Hell

    What a butt rape! Telus just charges and charges and charges, taking from the Canadian market but investing in jobs overseas in the Phillipines.

  • jonny

    For light use, provided the minutes and data don’t expire too soon this plan is great. 0.05 a minute for Canada calling is a great rate. The data package is a bit pricy, but I understand how data is intensive on the network ad voice is not.

    Jonny

  • Fatty Mcgee

    Koodo must really be hard up for cash to partner with Wally World. They’re losing customers every which way. Pay as you go with per-second rates might have been the better more attractive way to go. As far as towers and wireless infrastructure is concerned, that’s been around for eons. Just another cash grab.

    • Nikon

      YES and No the concept of per second rates is good in one sense for the client but a pure headache for the support of the company. I worked for 3 Canadian service provider that offer per min billing I had client(the same one) calling on daily basis (5-15 time a week) to argue that there call last 1 min less then what we charge them. And they will argue for over an hour if they want to if you ask to speak with manager and threaten to cancel for 1 cent sometime. And after that people are asking themselves why the jobs are sent to other country, for the salary of 1 Canadian you can get 5-15 employee there just to be able to answer to the flow of calls.

    • Daniel AJ

      @Nikon What you are telling sounds like an argument for per-second billing. If there is a divergence in the clocks, the customer would be overcharged 1 second (and less likely to complain) than when he is overcharges 1 minute.

      What the telcos know very well but most consumers do not know, is that the price difference between per second and per minute billing is massive. Somewhere around 25, 30%.

  • Daniel AJ

    @joe Your assessment is too simplistic and thus, I’m sorry to say, wrong. There are economies of scale in the US, yes, from sourcing hardware to advertisement. But in customer service and networks these are rather limited.

    In densly populated areas it is very expensive to provide good coverage and high capacity. Canada doesn’t have a lot of these expensively coverable areas. Canada has a lot of low-density area indeed. But you won’t find coverage there anyway.

    Rogers and Bell/Telus have insane profit margins. Networks are, with a few locals exceptions, not state of the art and customer service is lousy (someone should tell them about customer centric processes – sound like bullshit bingo but t has merit). I don’t have to tell you about price levels.

    All of that is a clear sign of a very low level of competition.

  • Tj

    Too expensive. Decent price on the handsets, but crappy prices on the plans. wind Mobile is still the best for plans if you are in their area. Mobilicity not bad either.

  • Genie

    Has anyone been able to confirm if voicemail and call display will be included (as they usually are with prepaid on other carrier)?

  • El Tabador

    Yes CD and VM included in the base plans
    Boosters are optional and roll over and expire only after 90 days of inactivity

  • Genie

    I’ve been searching for any new verified comments (v.s. speculation) from someone who’s actually been to a Walmart today. Can anyone confirm the promotion, details, etc? The nearest Walmart is quite a ways away, and I don’t want to make the trek until this is a sure thing. Thanks!

  • Xtreme

    Koodo Mobile prepaid is available today in Walmart locations with a cell phone department!

  • ssdd

    Rogers telus and bell actually do have cdma phones still, atlantic canada is releasing koodo prepaid tomorrow, mins will roll over, but you have to have $ on the account with a pre paid plan, data also will roll over, ie- you add 100 mins and 1 gb data, you use 1 min and 20 kb of data, you still have everything next month, boosters don’t renew unless you purchase them, as long as you renew your “plan” so if you keep 15$ for unlt txt and buy 100 min and 1 gd of data and don’t use it, as long as you keep paying that 15$ you’ll still have access to the 100 min and 1 gb of data, better then the rest where they don’t roll over, and you have to re-purchase every 30 days

  • John

    Does anyone actually know why Koodo has launched prepaid at walmart?
    here’s a hint… you get declined from koodo’s small credit check and you are unable to get a device or tab…what do you do?
    1. go to virgin prepaid?
    2. go to Telus prepaid?
    3. YOU GO TO KOODO PREPAID.

    not saying they’re prepaid is amazing but its an option for customers that cant get post paid.

  • ghurley

    This looks much cheaper than Rogers pay-as-you-go. A nice addition to the prepaid market.

  • ghurley

    Oh darn, I spoke (posted?) too soon – I didn’t realise that the base plans were mandatory. Never mind. Not a deal after all.

  • Jay

    Actually, if the customer manages his/her usage carefully and has low usage, Koodo prepaid offers the best price of any prepaid service that has Canada-wide coverage. For subscibers who don’t use many minutes or much data, their service is more affordable than any competitor, even some of the city-based companies, such as Public Mobile.

    For example: You want 100 minutes of Canadian LD minutes, unlimited text to Canada+US and 200MB of data.

    You get: 15$ text plan + 35$ 1GB data booster + 25$ 500 CLD minute booster.

    The data booster will be stretched over 5 months with this usage and the same applies to the minute booster. These are LD minutes, not just local.

    You end up paying the equivalent of 27$/month

    The most comparable plan is Virgin’s 25$ prepaid plan, which has:

    100 LOCAL minutes
    Unlimited Can/US text
    100MB data

    For 2$ more, you get twice the data and your minutes are CanLD. Plus, if you don<t use them all, they carry over to the next month.

    Compared to many CANADIAN prepaid offerings, this is actually a pretty good offer, but as I said, only for a certain type of user.

    For someone who wants a smartphone and incoming calls, though, Virgin Mobile has a better offer. For someone who uses their phone in a city only, they should look into the new entrants, but only if they will use the service to its full potential. E.g. Koodo prepaid is still less expensive than Public Mobile for someone who wants a smartphone with data access and unlimtied text, but who doesn't use much data. Really, it all depends on what kind of user you are, as well.

    • Brad

      I agree. At this point, it is probably the best deal available from any Canadian mobile carrier (since the data and voice minutes do not expire). Someone like myself (a commuter) who could benefit from 5c per minute, no additional long distance charges, and needs very few voice minutes and < 100MB per month data requirements since I'm usually near a wifi network.

      By my calculations, it would probably cost me around $21 per month ($15 base plan includes free texting, $2.50 for 50 mins voice, $3.50 for 100MB).

  • Jo-Anne

    I want a prepaid phone, but I don’t understand much a out cell phones. Does tour card rollover to the next month, is you don’t use up your card in a month, I would want unlimited texting for sure. Not concerned about be able to access the Internet. And I don’t knw what to get as far as minuts, and do they include voice msging, or call display. Any ideas people. I’m 56 yrs old so I don’t need anything fancy, preferably with a screen that isn’t too small, it’s hard for me to see the screens and the buttons if phone is too small
    Thanks

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