Bell’s blue map shows they dominate over Rogers

John Connors

November 9, 2009 3:40pm

The coverage and reliability question has been a hot topic between Bell and Rogers for years. With the launch of Bell’s new HSPA network we’re sure things will heat up even more. We are actually doing our own test of reliability and speed of all the networks but this fun coloured map shows Canada dressed up in Blue from coast-to-coast.

What you’re seeing below is an internal doc that was sent to us by our friend the “Informer”. This is what Bell uses specifically sell against Rogers…. boasting how dominating their coverage and reach is.

Question to the actual Bell/Rogers customers… do find this to be an accurate representation of Canada?

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  • Joe

    Telus has similar maps online.

    • Zee

      Yeah.. it’s damn near identical.. Hmmmmmmm

  • Greg

    To me what it looks like they have done is only highlighted Rogers areas that are covered by Rogers and not bell. I would be prone to believeing that their 3g has slightly more coverage based on the fact that they have a newer network however not nearly this much besides 3g is their only network so if you lose 3g reception your screwed

  • TayTay

    Since the documentation is from Bell, there is going to be some sort of bias against Rogers.

    The maps posted above hardly even show Rogers’covered areas.

    I’m just glad Bell finally got their new Network running. I never would have considered switching to them when they only had CDMA technology….

  • toyandme

    Note that Central Canada, SK and MB are not covered yet, with the exception of Winniped, by the new network but that area is covered nicely by the older 1X-EVDO technology.

    I can only talk for the area that covers Montreal to Saint Johns’ NL, where indeed, Belus have waaaay more coverage than Rogers, including Rogers’ obsolete Edge network.

  • Hugo Beaulieu

    Well… considering Telus’s & Bell’s CDMA (1x & EVDO) coverage was better than rogers and that for the most part they likely upgraded existing towers to HSPA (not just EVDO sites, almost all digital towers), it’s certainly logical that the resulting coverage would be better than Roger’s spotty 3G coverage (not taking into account 2.5G areas)

    I would tend to believe that the map is pretty accurate (though there likely are a number of “dead zones” not represented on the map)

  • Randy

    As someone who travels to St. John’s 2-3 times a year, in the map above, you can barely see any Rogers’ coverage at all in Newfoundland …which is spot on.

    As for having a secondary network to fall back on, that’s only important to Rogers, as their 3G coverage is so sparse in most regions. If you have blanket coverage in a region, you don’t need anything to fall back on.

  • DJM

    Who cares how good the coverage is if they can’t even cough-up decent priced plans.

  • TNSF

    The maps accurately reflect the Telus/Bell network vs Rogers. Rogers HSPA network really is that small.

    Bell has even gone a step further and secured independent opinions that in urban centres the Bell/Telus HSPA network is more reliable than Rogers (dropped calls, etc).

    Bell and Telus truly have the network advantage (except in Sask and Man).

  • Greg

    I agree I love that they are gsm it’s just going o breed good competition

    • larry

      Greg they skiped GSM.Bell/Telus went to HSPA.

  • jimmy

    i would say no bias what so ever; due to the fact that statistically rogers hspa coverage is around 75% vs bell is 93% (of the Canadian population.)

    on top of that rogers hspa+ coverage is almost non existent (under 30%) and Bell shows over 90% hspa+.

    lets not forget bells cdma “evdo 3G” civeraqge @ 90% while Rogers has similar coverage with edge/gprs, and in my opinion cdma being much faster than edge having used both quite frequently.

    do not get me wrong, i am no fan of bell, however there has been a drastic swing in the Canadian market in terms of network strength.

    the word is going to spread and people are going to consider bell before rogers if they are interested in a superior network, which i believe is a well needed shift in our Canadian wireless industry.

    ball is in rogers court, lets see if they do anything, my guess is not, considering it seems Rogers only invests in network upgrades in the GTA area.

    • TNSF

      Rogers is in a bind because they don’t have a national partner to share the costs with. If they try to compete head to head with Bell/Telus it will blow out Rogers’ bottom line.

      The Telus/Bell network cost $1 billion not including most of the investment in SK and MB that will happen in 2010. Almost all these costs are shared. Rogers would have to shoulder them entirely, which would make it very hard to compete:

      Bell: $500 million for national HSPA+ coverage
      Telus: $500 million for national HSPA+ coverage
      Rogers: $ 1 billion for national HSPA+ coverage

      I don’t think we will see a full steam ahead expansion from Rogers until they can work out a larger network sharing agreement with another company. I know they inked one with MTS for MB, but maybe there is national potential with some other players.

    • larry

      Saskatchewan is Sasktel owned by the provincial goverment.Telus/Bell have a roaming agreement with Sasktel/MTS,Manitoba is MTS.Also owned by there government.Rogers singed a deal with MTS over the summer to build HSPA in Manitoba.Telus used to be called AGT(Alberta Goverment Telphone).

    • TNSF

      Yes, Rogers has a deal with MTS. Telus/Bell have a deal with Sasktel. I’m sure they will all figure out something sooner or later. However, that still leaves Rogers without a partner in the West and East, where Telus/Bell just spent $1 billion on coverage.

      Rogers is at a significant cost disadvantage right now.

  • Kyle

    @ Jimmy,

    Though I do agree with most of what you say, but you can’t compare edge/gprs with “CDMA”.

    Edge is comparable to 1X. EVDO is comparable to HSDPA. And now both have an HSPA+ network which will result into LTE in a few years.

    Rogers won’t do anything because they’re a bunch of i****s running that company now. I’m with Rogers, don’t necessarily like them but I will always take GSM over CDMA hands down.

    If only Bell offered the Pre via HSPA i’d jump ship.

  • midtoad

    I have never been able to get any Rogers coverage in the rolling hills and dips west of Calgary on the TransCanada. But I noticed Bell/Telus coverage there long before they officially launched their new network.

    Rogers has had a decade to provide reasonable coverage, and they’ve done nothing but shovel in the gravy for shareholders.

  • Michelle

    Obviously Bell is going to be slightly bias in this coverage map. Thats marketing… period.
    I am tired of people arguing between Rogers and Bell. They were two completely different technologies to begin with. Bells CDMA was aimed at blanket coverage which always benifited those people who travelled or lived in remote areas. Rogers has always focused on major cities with their penetrating coverage. So in basements and large buildings they were great. Slap them both together and what do we get? HSPA.. there is really no way to go wrong now. Bell unfortunately has been given a bad name in the past especially with their Customer Service. However, any customer can have ONE bad experience and badmouth that company. Bell’s rate plans are NOT crap or expensive whatsoever. If you actually compare the exact same plans to eachother – Bell will either tie or beat Rogers plans.
    Doing your homework before making claims is wise.
    That being said – I am excited about the new HSPA network and I too would like to see if Rogers will make a move.

  • Jon

    I’ve been told by Rogers reps before that they’re constantly expanding their network all across Canada. Really and honestly, I’ve never seen their network footprint change any at all other than the colour (from GSM/GPRS to EDGE and then to HSDPA).

    Bell and Telus have converted ~nearly~ all their towers to broadcast both HSPA(+) and CDMA. I say nearly because while I have yet to actually go check it out with my next phone, I see one area I do visit periodically over the summer not covered with HSPA, and I know it’s covered by CDMA. But none the less, it’s obvious that their network is now vastly superior to Rogers for coverage.

    Now only question is… what HSPA handset to get alongside my Storm 2 …

  • Travis b.

    You’ll notice that on Bell’s coverage map compared to TELUS that Bell’s is more specific in the coverage thsn TELUS. Example, in Alberta between Edmonton and Calgary to the west there is a big whole while on TELUS’ it shows it to be completely filled in.

  • larry

    No coverage in Sask/Man or northern Ontario till mid 2010 at the earliest,OK they have service in Winnipeg.I will wait until they match Rogers in thees province’s before I switch.

  • Peter

    I had it out with Bell while I was using the Palm Pre on their CDMA network. I dropped calls all over the Greater Toronto Area, but mostly at my house and where I work because I was in what Bell called two “marginal call area’s”. They preached when I threatened cancellation to try an iPhone 3GS on their HSPA network, claiming it to have better penetration and stonger signal. Sure enough, same signal both at work and at home, and I continued to drop calls.

    As much as these maps make you think they have expanded there coverage area, individual results may very.

    I wasn’t very impressed with the launch.

  • AK

    I’d like to see an updated map of this as Bell’s still preaching the same map at their stores while Rogers has expanded quite a bit in SW Ontario since the map above.