Freedom Mobile says it can’t guarantee iPhone 8 compatibility on Band 66 LTE ‘at this time’


  • Techguru86

    It is a pain but really how many people actually call over the network and don’t use viber, What’s App or whatever app.

    • Sneakz

      I don’t know, um, I’d say most people.

      And it doesn’t matter if you don’t make calls, cause if someone call you, you’ll drop LTE.

    • Techguru86

      Of course, they lacked the necessary spectrum, LTE is there data network not voice network

    • Tyler Hardeman

      I would say almost everyone……

      3rd party voip is a very small niche.

    • Ian

      I call over the FM network but then again I bought my phone from FAN and the plan includes way more minutes of talk time than I ever use.

  • Thiago

    That is not 100% true as we are seeing a lot of S8/S8+ devices sold by Freedom not working properly as well.

    • Techguru86

      LTE is there Data network not voice network

  • Spencer Navarra-Chew

    I wish Shaw would invest the cash into getting VoLTE up running. Maybe RMS while their at it.

    • dirtyKIMCHI

      If you meant RCS, Shaw is not a consortium partner, so unless it actually takes off, this is not a priority.

      The investment is already there. VoWLAN is still an active project & once it is reliable and makes it onto the rest of the LTE Ready devices, VoLTE will be the primary focus (which is an active project as well). Both use an IMS core base, so once VoWLAN is stable, VoLTE should come quite soon afterwards.

    • Spencer Navarra-Chew

      Yes, that was indeed supposed to say RCS, apparently autocorrect prefers RMS??
      And you’re absolutely correct. Doesn’t stop me from wishing though.

  • Andrew Holt

    This is a serious isssue that Freedom/Shaw needs to fix ASAP, or else they will sink and go the way of the dodo bird.

    • Techguru86

      They are, hopefully the new spectrum will fix that, blame previous ownerships for not buying adequate spectrum

    • John Lofwire

      its a way to sell there own hardware and make an extra profit.
      The sim card could be updated to be able to work on band 66 with any phone ( thats support it. )

  • I love Freedom, but Freedom really needs to make their SIM cards with their Band 66 software on them, so that they don’t loose potential customers. So far, all phones from fall 2016 onward with an enhanced Band 66 SIM card could work on Freedom’s LTE Network. Why Freedom Mobile/Shaw doesn’t do this, I do not know?

    • specialk2000

      Is that even possible?

    • 5000magicman

      It is as each SIM card uses JVMs Java Virtual Machines and theoretically they can make a JVM specifically look onto that frequency, in this case band 66.

    • John Lofwire

      Yes it is 100% possible.

      A client with a very old sim wont be able to access all the newer network.
      If you have a sim that date before LTE came out you need to change it to have LTE.

  • canucks4life

    What a joke

  • raybo

    FYI: I just tried voice calling with a Note8 that I got from Samsung online. On pickup it switches to 4G then back to LTE on hangup. 🙂

    • Justin

      Isn’t that why a device does usually, unless the network has VoLTE?
      My Note 5 will drop from LTE to 4G when I place or receive a call, as the call goes over 4G network and not LTE… then returns to LTE when I’m done the call. (Bell MTS)

    • raybo

      Yes, that’s the expected case. Just checking that the Note8 wasn’t broken on Freedom like the article says the iPhone 8 is. I wasn’t even certain that my unlocked Note8 directly from Samsung would get LTE. Thankfully it does. Only thing is that my phone number is shown as “unknown”. But that’s a SIM card thing. If I didn’t get LTE, I’d switch carriers yet again.

  • John Lofwire

    More excuse to sell there own phone and make a profit.

    • Andrew Holt

      is there really all that much profit the carriers make on hardware sales? I ask this seriously as I have no idea what their margins on phones are. I have always thought it was the service that made them their money. And in Freedpm’s case, wouldn’t it make more financial sense having their network work with all the unlocked iPhones people have, thus being able to lure people over to their service?

    • John Lofwire

      Beside on iphone yes.

      on iphone carrier do about 50$ per device max of profit.

      But mostly all android carrier pay them way less than the retail price.
      IF i can get a Samsung note 8 for under 500$ ( special price for employee of the carrier ) that mean they pay it that or lower..

    • Abel

      Not really. They can also be absorbing part of the cost, as an incentive to employees. Not saying they *are* doing it, just that they *might*.

    • John Lofwire

      I know from a source at the inventory of a carrier.. Beside iphone all others pen the carrier pay 50% or less.

      If you would own a business for anything like clothing ect you know that most retail sell at twice the price they paid minimum 😉 but its okay no need to beleive me.

    • Abel

      Like I said, I’m not implying that they do absorb part of the cost (which I’d be surprised if they did, to be honest). I said they *could* be doing it. My point was that generalising in such a way could not be accurate.

      I never said I didn’t believe you. And, yes, I know that retailers sell at +100% what it costs them (hence why they can come up with 30% / 40% / 50% off sales -and more). But I think there’s a slight difference between a clothing store, for instance, that is selling you a piece of clothes and that’s it, and a cell phone/plans reseller. I always assumed that they would make more money out of commission or similar for the plans sold than for the device itself.

      But I do agree that their margin would be higher on Android devices than on iPhones, given how strict in pricing and ambitious Apple is.

  • pvanb

    Translation of “at this time”: never

    This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone.

  • danhenny_76

    Freedom is misleading with the whole LTE – it’s for data only for ANY phone bought thru freedom or anywhere else – I got a lg g6 from freedom and my apartment buzzer no longer works unless I choose 4g because as my phone switches from lte-4g the network sees it as busy so no call gets through right away – same with outgoing calls I’m holding my phone to my ear for 10 seconds before I hear a ring

  • Brian

    I purchased an unlocked iPhone 8+ in Edmonton and it works just fine on Freedom LTE, if you make a call it switches to 3G and then back to LTE after the call no problem. 🙂

    • pvanb

      Look forward to hearing from more daring Freedom customers on this.

  • Guess freedom isn’t so freeing…