Rollout of Windows 10 Mobile to existing Canadian Windows Phone devices begins today

Igor Bonifacic

March 17, 2016 12:51pm

As predicted, Microsoft today announced the launch of Windows 10 Mobile on existing and legacy Lumia devices.

Windows 10 Mobile will be available on the following Microsoft and Nokia devices that came to Canada:

  • Lumia 435
  • Lumia 635 (1GB variant)
  • Lumia 640
  • Lumia 640 XL
  • Lumia 830

The full list of supported devices can be found on Microsoft’s website.

To help make the update process as painless as possible, Microsoft has also launched a special upgrade advisor, available starting today on the Windows Store. Much like the upgrade advisor Microsoft launched on PCs and tablets ahead of the release of Windows 10, the app will inform users when their upgrade is ready — some carriers still need to sign off on the update.

Once the update is installed, expect to see redesigned Office and Outlook apps, as well a Cortana that more closely adheres to her desktop counterpart. More importantly, Windows 10 Mobile adds access to Universal Apps, which Microsoft hopes will address the shortage of compelling apps found on Windows Phone 8.1.

Source Microsoft

    I fully expect Microsoft to release a statement as to why the Lumia 1020 is NOT on the list of devices that will receive Windows 10. The device cost $700!!!!!!!!!

    Phones and devices that can upgrade to Windows 10:

    Lumia 1520, 930, 640, 640XL, 730, 735, 830, 532, 535, 540, 635 1GB, 636 1GB, 638 1GB, 430, 435, BLU Win HD w510u, BLU Win HD LTE x150q, MCJ Madosma Q501

    • Jeremy Hannon

      The 1020 was pegged as a “later wave” of update and has showed this way on update lists for a while. The primary reason is the processor and firmware. The 1020 basically was the same as the 920 with more ram, better camera, and better glass. The 920 is getting upgraded yet either.

    • GQDRU

      I expect a $700 “Flagship” to get updated!

    • Bryce Smallwood

      Windows is still better then Android updates, there are plenty of $700+ flagship Androids that either don’t get updates or significantly delayed updates. The G2 never got Lollipop in Canada, the S5 and Note 4 have there Marshmallow update status up in the air.

    • Hamid

      $700 outright when it came out almost 3 years ago. I got a used one for my sister for $100 during fall 2014 :).

    • MassDeduction

      Any Lumia 1020 user can snag Windows 10 Mobile. In fact, virtually every single Windows Phone 8.1 device can. This is through the Windows Insider program that lets you test the newest builds of the OS on your handset.

      This is different, this is a release build to regular consumers. They haven’t decided to encourage regular consumers to do so yet. But that doesn’t mean they can’t, any Lumia 1020 user can get the same build of Windows 10 Mobile (build 164) through the Windows Insider app.

    • Alexandre Rodrigue

      You can still get the Windows 10 mobile update via the insider program.

    • Abel

      Well, up until now I was under the impression that the 1020 would be upgraded.

      I guess the upside is that I’ll get to keep the Here suite of apps. LOL

    • George McFly

      Funny because it’s true… Here maps and here drive were the reasons I got a windows phone to begin with. No way I’m upgrading to 10 now. Especially with no way to migrate my collections.

    • manpreet singh

      you expect updates for a 3year old phone…this isn’t apple

    • robinottawa

      You know the difference of CPUs? The S4 won’t handle it. You wouldn’t like it.

      The 1520 was a totally different – a monster with much much higher specs. A different development stream. Date has little to do with it.

    • MassDeduction

      I used Windows 10 Mobile on the Lumia 635 which has half the RAM of the Lumia 920, and a quarter the RAM of the Lumia 1020, and it’s CPU isn’t decidedly more powerful either. Yet it was fine. *shrug*

    • robinottawa

      At least the CPU on the 635 is a S400 vs the S4.

      It’s so subjective. I couldn’t use ANY Lumia below the 1520 when on 8.1 – just hated waited for things to load.

  • RogerStrong

    Just to be clear, your Lumia 635 probably *won’t* get Windows 10. Only the 1MB RAM version gets it, and I’m not sure that any of those were sold in Canada. The ones from Rogers have 512MB. (And did ANY Canadian carriers ever sell the 640 or 640XL?)

    • Alexandre Rodrigue

      The Microsoft Store sell the 640 XL

    • RogerStrong

      A phone only available through an online store is a phone that’s out of commission for WEEKS – without a loaner – while you mail it in for repair. That’s OK for software or a Microsoft Band, but just plain not acceptable for a cell phone you depend on. Most any other phone, you can have repaired or replaced within the hour.

    • Alexandre Rodrigue

      still cheaper thant any new flagship phone available trought a carrier For repair, that’s why is important to have a backup phone.

    • MassDeduction

      You can also get it in physical Microsoft Stores, if you live close to one. I’ve been to several in Canada (two in Vancouver, one in Toronto).

      I always have at least one backup device. At present the Lumia 950 XL is my daily driver, and I have a Lumia 1520 as my Canadian backup, and a 640 XL as my backup when travelling (because of its much better frequency support). So I wouldn’t find mailing it off especially limiting, honestly. All my data gets backed up to OneDrive so that’s not an issue either.

    • RogerStrong

      I’m in Winnipeg. The nearest Microsoft store is a 20-hour round-trip drive across an international border, and I’d first have to apply for a passport. It’s double that distance within Canada.

      You get a phone for half-price or less on a 2-year contract here. With NO monthly discount for using your own phone, there’s no reason not to sign it. So with no Windows 10 devices sold by local carriers or stores, they effectively cost twice as much.

      A backup device means buying a second phone. So now you’re paying *four* times as much as for a competing phone.

    • MassDeduction

      I’m in Victoria. Going to the Microsoft Store for me is a journey to the ferry terminal, making sure to arrive early enough that the boat isn’t full before I get there, a 1.5 hour ferry ride, travelling across half of Greater Vancouver to the Microsoft Store, and then a return trip of similar length. I don’t think going to a physical Microsoft Store is a whole lot more convenient for me than you. But that’s a bit like failing to mention Wind because you and I don’t live in Wind’s coverage. It’s worth noting that physical Microsoft Stores are an option for *some* people, even if not a good option for everyone or for us individually. 🙂

      Definitely the practice of tying devices to service contracts differs from province to province. I’m on a grandparented plan where I get a $20 discount if I decline a device subsidy, so that’s very significant for me ($480 plus tax saved over a two year contract, which is approximately equivalent to the device cost savings).

      How does having a backup device mean buying a second phone? For me (and for many people) it merely means keeping my old device as a backup when I get the new one. I don’t presume that my old device is haggard beyond reason when I get a new one. 🙂 I could sell it, but I often don’t have time, or I don’t feel that I could get enough for it to make it worth parting with it. So I tend to keep one or two kicking around as spares.

    • RogerStrong

      You can get your phone repaired or replaced as a day trip. For me it’s four full days of driving with a minimum of three hotel stays. That’s a bit of a difference.

      Using your own device costs MORE. There’s a token discount for decline the device subsidy, but it doesn’t match the discount for signing a contract, plus getting a flagship device for half-price or less for doing so.
      At least now a two-year contract is an option. When I signed my current contract (actually, which ended last month) THREE-year contracts were the only option in Manitoba. Using your own device cost a LOT more. (Though I was able to add the 635 later for low cost.)

    • MassDeduction

      I’m not sure how 20 hours roundtrip becomes a four day trip, but I’ll take your word for it. I’m an islander, what do I know about it? 😛

      Using your own device costs more. And it also costs less. I submit to you that you’re assuming everyone’s experience is the same as yours, but it’s not. I save $537.60 (after tax) over a two year period taking a BYOD discount vs. a subsidy on a flagship device. Not exactly chump change.

      Taking a contract can have serious unintended costs and hassles. What if you end up missing a promo or other opportunity with another carrier because you’re in contract and can’t take advantage of it? What if you move to a new home, or a new workplace, and coverage on your carrier sucks and you’re stuck with it (or having to pay costs to get out of your contract)?

      What if you are perfectly happy with your device when two years is up and you’d rather save money than take a new device subsidy? What if the upgrade schedule your carrier holds you to means that you miss out on the device that you *really* want because it’s coming out just after your contract renewal window? What if you want a device your carrier doesn’t offer, such as if you’re a Windows Phone fan, or you’re entranced by the Xiaomi Mi5 or some other import option? What if you see value in buying used devices, always being one generation behind in exchange for inexpensively buying the cast offs of people like me who tend to always buy the latest and greatest?

      I submit to you your statement is as right, or as wrong, as an individual’s situation. Though I built a plan on MTS’s website and it seemed any plan with Canada-wide calling was quite a bit more expensive than a similar plan with Public Mobile. So going with Public Mobile (which doesn’t offer handset subsidies) vs. MTS may be your BYOD option in Manitoba.

    • MassDeduction

      Am I reading MTS’ website correctly? $55/month gives you 1GB but only 500 local minutes? Whereas, on Public Mobile $120 over 90 days (the equivalent of approx. $40/month) gives you 4GB spread over the 90 days (1.3 GB/month), and unlimited Province-wide calling. If you’re paying $15 more per month, and getting a lot less, then suddenly the handset subsidy doesn’t look so hot to me anymore.

      And if you want unlimited Canada-wide calling? The price appears to rise to $71.50 on MTS, but rises to a mere $45 on Public Mobile. At that point you’re paying $26.50 a month extra on MTS, and getting 25% less data. Again, that device subsidy’s suddenly not so cheap. And Koodo has a $48 no-device-subsidy 5GB plan that destroys *both* of the above.

      I’m not saying there aren’t other carriers in Manitoba, and perhaps MTS is more competitive at other price points/data allotments, and perhaps its cheaper if you have other services with MTS. But that’s kind of my point, BYOD is really good, or really bad, depending on individual circumstance. For me, it’s really good as it saves me a substantial sum of money, and I appreciate the control I get over my device choice and upgrade timing. I’m giving serious consideration to importing a Xiaomi Mi5 from China right now as it’s one of the few devices that gives you the choice between running Android or running Windows 10 Mobile. I’m also giving some thought about importing the Alcatel Fierce XL from the U.S. As you can imagine, I’d probably be less likely to import handsets if I was also paying more for my service to pay back a device subsidy.

    • gwydionjhr

      The 640 was never available in Canada via a carrier or the MS Store, but there so many brought up from the US when they were $30-60 outright, it might as well have been.

    • MassDeduction

      The Lumia 635 was the very first handset I ran Windows 10 Mobile off off (512 MB version). It ran it well. It’s not getting an official release at this time, but you can upgrade to it if you wish through the Windows Insider app. And it ran well on the 635 in my experience.

    • RogerStrong

      I ran the Windows 10 beta on my 512 MB 635. It worked OK for a while. But as new builds came out I kept running out of memory. Even with personal data on the SD card and some default apps removed, I kept running out of space. I had to revert back to 8.1.
      The 512 MB Lumia 635 – I don’t think the 1MB version was sold in Canada – is no longer supported by Windows 10.

    • MassDeduction

      It is supported by Windows 10, it’s just not on the recommended upgrade list in Upgrade Advisor. I’m unaware of it being unsupported if you upgrade to it via Windows Insider.

      As for it running less well over time as new builds came out, that’s interesting. As I said, I only ran the initial build of Windows 10 Mobile on the Lumia 635. Interesting feedback. They’ve added a lot of functionality to it, so it kind of makes sense.

  • Alexandre Rodrigue

    You forgot the Lumia 435, prepaid Telus/Koodo available at best buy and Wal-Mart. I’ll check with mine tonight after I reinstall the WP8.1.

  • downhilldude

    Hope both of you enjoy your update!

  • gwydionjhr

    Just a heads up, it looks like Cortana is not yet available with this build if your region is set to Canada. You can always “hop” to English-US for the time being.

    • Tim

      a language pack has to be downloaded for English (Canada) before Cortana will function

    • gwydionjhr

      I just finished going through the upgrade process, the Canadian Language pack won’t install.

    • robinottawa

      Is there really one? I always use British.

    • blinkcourier

      There’s q workaround involving the Windows Insider app, but depends if you want to go that route.

  • deha93

    Does somebody with the Lumia 830 on Bell got the update? The upgrade advisor app on mine says that “we are working with your mobile operator to make the upgrade available”.

    • George McFly

      I’m with Fido. Lumia 830. Nope. Sad face 🙁

    • Christopher Tweed

      I asked Bell_Support on twitter yesterday and they said “we haven’t received any updates at this time” so I imagine once they get it, it will be weeks till it’s released 🙁

    • deha93

      Thanks, I guess we should have expected that :/
      Hope it’s not going to take months 😛

    • rgl168

      Same with my ATT-branded 640.

    • deha93

      I got the update today! Not with a notification but with the upgrade advisor. Not sure if this is linked to my call yesterday at bell to unlock my phone because they told me it was already unlocked… Anyway, I guess you could check your phone one more time 😉

  • v1Ns

    not yet.. soon™

  • Jonah Emery

    Yay! I just got the update… to a Nexus 6P.

  • rgl168

    I didn’t see any updates available on my 640 yet – checked twice yesterday in the Settings menu.

    • gwydionjhr

      You won’t. You need to install the Update Advisor app, run it, and follow it through.

    • rgl168

      Ran it, and it says something like ‘congratuations… we are working with the operator to make it available’ or something similar. Thus it appears that ATT has not approved the update to be released yet.

  • Andrew Patrick Lau

    Did the 1 GB Lumia 635 even come out in Canada? I believe it was 512 MB only…anyways, I’d be shocked if 512 MB devices got it at this stage. I’d still need to do lots of cleanup to get my poor old 520 ready for the upgrade.

    • MassDeduction

      I believe your suspicion is correct, the 1GB Lumia 635 did not get released in Canada.

      At this stage the 512MB devices aren’t getting an official update, but they can get it unofficially through the Windows Insider programme.