Essential Phone now only $650 no-term at Telus

A beautiful phone now comes at a solid price

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  • eszklar

    Hmmm… it’s $499 US, so not bad. People are still complaining about the camera but Essential has been constantly updating their software for the PH-1 and they’re pretty responsive on their Reddit AMA. At this price point it’s very interesting.

    • I’ve reviewed the Essential Phone a few weeks ago and the camera is good but it’s nothing compared to the Pixel or iPhone. $650 isn’t bad for the Essential Phone, considering that every other flagship smartphone is $800 or more outright

    • Elky64

      If they keep on supporting/improving definitely a deal but one has to wonder about that now.

      I considered it before but seeing accessories such as cases/screen protectors are far and few between we passed. Don’t care what it is made out of those items are a must have in my line of work.

    • h2oflyer

      Good point

    • John Lofwire

      just sideload google pixel camera app with hdr+ its make the essential camera very very good ( better than S7 but not S8 or LG G6 )

  • Elky64

    Somewhat surprised to see Telus took the initiative and dropped the price, good on them.. Sorta tempting but something tells me “don’t do it”. Anyhow got my eye on something else.

    • Scott

      I’m in the same boat. I’m wondering if Essential is going to be like the OnePlus where they stick around or are they one and done? That’s the sticking point for me. At this price though, it’s very attractive.

      What’s the something else you have your eye on? There have been a few phones tempting me but nothing has seemed the perfect fit for me just yet.

    • It’s Me

      I’m thinking HP TouchPad and I expect a few more rounds of drops. Might be a good black friday clearance item to watch for.

    • eszklar

      My 2 32GB HP TouchPads running Evervol 7.1.2 Nougat like this comment.

    • ToniCipriani ✓pǝᴉɟᴉɹǝʌ

      Camera still doesn’t work, correct? I’m still on milaq’s 4.4.

    • eszklar

      As I’ve mentioned to vn33 in an earlier post – my TouchPad with Evervol’s 7.1.2 ROM and Kernel Auditor tweaks can’t turn my beloved HP TP into a speed demon. So it’s a glorified alarm clock and RSS newsreader. But I first learned how to root’n’ROM Android with the TouchPad – so good times for me.

    • vn33

      My TouchPad is still running fine.
      How is Evervol 7.1.2 Nougat running on yours? Is it laggy at all?

    • eszklar

      Laggy like crazy – TouchPad is rooted (of course) and even with Kernel Auditor tweaks its still…..slow. But I mainly use it now as a deskside alarm clock (I have a Touchstone charging pad for it) and an RSS news reader.

    • vn33

      Thnx… I think I will stick with ICS for my TP then. Use it as a glorified Netflix player for my kids

    • John Lofwire

      I use a old Sony Z1 with a dock for clock lol

    • Elky64

      Same here, wondering if they’ll continue to support or throw in the towel leaving owners hangin’. Just not willing to take that chance at the moment, unleeeess they throw in a 360 deg camera to sweeten the deal but maybe not LOL.

      Got my eye on (now don’t laugh as I’m fully aware specs are dated) the BB Motion. Gave up on the company back in 2012 but there’s something about this new reiteration of BB that appeals to me, its 4000 mAh battery is one of them (it may alleviate my battery drain phobia LOL), security and design are other factors – we have no issues with bezels in general or its BIG chin so we’re good there. Not a power user per se and we have several other phones that can take up the slack if need be, so the BB hits most of the marks for me.

    • Scott

      Interesting … I’ve been holding out for the next new hotness for a while now.

      LG G6 – underwhelming screen & specs
      Essential Phone – nervous about a new entry
      Samsung S8 – no curved screen for me
      Samsung Note 8 – curved screen, no thanks
      LG V30 – screen not awesome
      Google Pixel 2 XL – no dual camera

      so … now I’m pinning my hopes on the OnePlus 5T

    • Elky64

      Although I rarely stress my phones to the max I’m always up for the latest and greatest as well, finding though the prices have become unjustifiable and more so when it appears those extra $$$ aren’t a guarantee you are getting
      the best of the best.

      Pretty much agree with your list except that price and non-expendable storage (where applicable) have also been defining factors for me. Already own the GS7 Edge, which I really like, but getting a screen protector to work (a must have in my world) has made curved displays a “no more” for me.

      Think if I stick with my decision to move down a
      rung or two we’ll be better off. One, hopefully our expectations/standards won’t be so high. Two, if something goes awry it won’t hurt as much since we didn’t have to give an arm and a leg in the first place.

    • Scott

      yeah it’s a curious case of do I spend big bucks now and hang on to something for 2yrs + or go mid-range and upgrade every 12-14 months.

    • Elky64

      That’s the thing, paying those big bucks almost guarantees you’d have to hang onto it longer unless the device has a good resale value, only one in that realm for the most part has been iPhone.

      I’m not looking at “mid-range – upgrade sooner” though. Trying to find something that fits my type of usage better overall, is productive and doesn’t require a 2nd mortgage, the Motion appear to be that phone at this moment. Shoot, my LG G4 after 2+ years still makes me feel like we’re with the times and not missing out on much, if anything, been an awesome phone… Unless it boot-loops LOL.

      If it wasn’t evident I’m a chronic switcher so “soon” I’ll be switching back to my GS7 or taking one of my three Windows Phones for a nostalgic spin. Had an iPhone 6 until recently but sold it off.

    • John Lofwire

      dual camera? i take a single camera that get better result over dual one who get worst result and make portrait mode lol.

    • Elky64

      Do agree some can be gimmicky but do like the idea of a wide-angle lens such as the G6/V30, I’d find it useful at times. Think they are only going to get better from here on in once the masses figure out how to utilize them to their fullest.

    • John Lofwire

      I have the v30 and i agree i side loaded pixel camera app for hdr+ 🙂 so its truly good.

    • John Lofwire

      That new Razer phone also very tempting but got to see canadian price first..

    • Troy Mitchell

      They should be sticking around.

      The founder and CEO is the creator of Android. He’s worth over $100 million. They also have Amazon and Foxconn as investors.

    • Elky64

      I know of a multi-billion dollar company w/many investors who couldn’t make a go of it in the cell phone market. So I’m not sure anything you said guarantees that.

    • Troy Mitchell

      I wasn’t guaranteeing anything. Was just trying to show they aren’t new to this.

    • Elky64

      Oh I understood that. But I was just pointing out what they have for cash, investors, or whether they are new to it or not means very little. It’s the first impression that counts which IMHO didn’t go as planned, and something that isn’t fixed overnight. Whether Essential as a company continues is anyone’s guess but surely the numbers are against.

    • ToniCipriani ✓pǝᴉɟᴉɹǝʌ

      I think the bigger surprise here is the no-term price actually dropped. Knowing these carriers it would usually be zero upfront and maybe a bill credit, but the no-term would stay the same along with the cancellation.

      Hope this sets a trend where more people would understand this and stop signing contracts.

    • vn33

      This!! People need to realize they should stop thinking they are getting a “subsidized” phone. At most, they are getting a “financed” phone. Shop around for the lowest plan that will suit your need. Don’t let that shiny phone shackle you to a carrier!!

  • Roger

    That’s good on Telus to discount the outright price. It’s too late for me, I already jumped ship!

  • Jon Duke

    Keep going Essential, you have my attention now. Lower you get, more I buy.

    • h2oflyer

      Same here…happy with my 5 mon old P10+…but I’m a sucker for finely crafted devices. Will a titanium ceramic phone operate any better than other phones ? Don’t think so.

      It’s like a well made watch that tells time the same as any watch. Most of my watches are Sapphire and hardened Titanium.

      If the price gets any lower, I need to start seeing lousy reviews to bring to my senses.

    • Mitchell Leitman

      I too am tempted by it and currently am using a P10 +. I’d love to see a comparison of the two online, but the P10 isn’t readily available in the US, and MobileSyrup hasn’t done a comparison. Come to think of it, for a country the size of Canada, we don’t have a lot of tech websites. Australia has its own Gizmodo and CNET, etc. Don’t get me wrong MobileSyrup is great. I just wish it had more competition.

    • h2oflyer

      I’ve had another chance to play with the Essential yesterday and it is an incredible build. But I have to put lust aside and give my head a shake.

      Two small negatives that would hold me back are limited cases available and much too blue screen colour which cannot be adjusted warmer because of stock Android.

      Also, I’m getting complacent and ignoring my incredible battery life that I’m getting from my P10 +. I poke fun at those that chase after the latest i X and here i am thinking the same way.

      BTW .. how are you enjoying your P10 + especially battery life ?

    • Mitchell Leitman

      Battery life is good. Though I was spoilt by my last phone, the BlackBerry KEYone. The two best things about that phone are the battery and keyboard. I found it “creaked and groaned” a lot with all the apps and processes I made it run. The P10+ more than keeps up with me in that regard. The Essential Phone would likely keep up with me too. I’m concerned that I wouldn’t be happy with the camera, coming from the Leica camera on the P10+

    • h2oflyer

      Just noticed my serial number has the NU… prefix which supposedly indicates that it was unlocked when sold at launch in June.

    • Mitchell Leitman

      I’ll say that one thing that bothers me with the P10+ is that we’re still stuck on the July security patch. My previous KEYone was kept very current on the security front.

    • h2oflyer

      I was wrong about the P10+ being unlocked with the NU previx. It was locked. Good news I was able to call Rogers and get the unlock code no charge ahead of Dec 1.

    • Mitchell Leitman

      That’s nice of them. Mine was unlocked using a purchased code online. Meanwhile, my P10 is on eBay. I thought it might get interest from the US, where the P10 isn’t officially available.

    • h2oflyer

      15 days ?? Looks like the Essential is permanent.

      I’m still weighing the pros and cons…one day the build quality and perfect pocketabllity size win and the next day that awful cold blue tint and limited cases/screen protectors hold me back. Repair updates are great, hoping they haven’t missed anything and keep on fixing.

      The other factor is cost difference. How much will I get for the P10+ to offset the $650 plus tax.

    • Mitchell Leitman

      I put mine on eBay for a week. No one is “watching” it yet. I’m asking C$695, which works out to just under US$450. Fingers crossed, as I will return it if the P10 doesn’t sell by then (within 15 days). I can buy one again, once it sells. I believe that Telus has a 30 day return policy if purchased online.

    • h2oflyer

      Thanks… I’m in the same situation….might post my P10+ on Kijiji and see what happens before I do a 15 day trial.

      I would be tempted at a $100 difference. Let’s stay in touch.

    • h2oflyer

      Been doing a lot of checking on the Essential on different forums to compare against my P10+ and finding a lot of positives.

      Have come across a couple of major negatives. Users in the States are complaining about spotty signal reception and higher than normal temperatures.

      I definately don’t want to switch to a phone with poorer signal and higher temps which is a battery killer.

      How are you finding these complaints ?

    • Mitchell Leitman

      Definitely no signal issues. The phone has not been hot either. Something that I have experienced today, that bothers me, is twice, after a call the phone crashes. I need to power it back up.

    • h2oflyer

      Not good to hear…..XDA forums has a mixed bag of comments…. connectivity was an issue but I attributed that to the US carriers.

      Also the repair updates came out fast and furious and then slowed to a halt.

    • Mitchell Leitman

      Actually, one update has come out since I’ve had the phone (ie in the last 4 days). If you want to hear what it sounds like on the phone I could PM you my number.

    • h2oflyer

      Yes please… we’re both chasing the same goal.

    • Mitchell Leitman

      There’s no PM functionality in disqus. You can find me on Twitter @mitchellleitman

    • h2oflyer

      I’ll try leaving a message at you ext #

    • Elky64

      Really want to try one (not just play with) but the more I read in the forms and such the less less desirable it becomes. Seems its best attribute is build quality and that is not enough.

      Think this coming Friday I’ll be rockin’ the BB Motion, battery life is amazing according to some of those using it in the UK.

    • h2oflyer

      Exactly…build quality is not enough. As you pointed out very limited accessories and who knows how long for support.

      Have you considered the P10 + ?

    • Elky64

      For me reading about touch, lag, and general performance issues, along with camera, and now, periodic freezing (may be related to latest update), turns me off big time. Don’t want to end up with another so-called Windows Phone experience, been there and still enduring it at times when we take one for a spin. Since we got the G4 over two years ago, and also owning the GS7/GS7 Edge (still have all 3), our Android experiences has been pretty darn good, not wanting to taint that experience now if it can be helped.

      Yeah eyed the P10+ a time or two but it really hasn’t sparked my interest, can’t say why exactly. Anyway, sort of resigned my self to stop paying these absorbent price (yes the Huawei P series is more reasonable than many) for these devices as it seems unjustified for my type of usage. The Motion on the other hand appears to be “that” phone for me albeit a tad dated in specs (OK a lot LOL), and personally like how it looks. If we need that extra oomph or a better camera our other three Android’s will suffice, easily.

  • CodyS

    Too bad it doesn’t have a headphone jack, I would buy.

  • thereasoner

    It certainly is tempting. I would love to see an updated long term review of this phone now that it has supposedly improvements via varoius updates. The price is certainly right for a premium build.

  • RR

    Anyone know if Essential phone is locked to Telus?

    • Last I heard, that the Essential Phone isn’t locked to Telus, so you could walk-in to a Telus store and buy one outright.

    • John Lofwire

      Essential are all unlocked and have no telus software on them.

    • RR

      Thanks guys! Did just that – although one store employee tried to tell me that it was only available for contract purchase. Anyway, talked to a manager and got it sorted out.

    • John Lofwire

      Good 🙂 I recommend to sideload pixel camera app greatly improve pictures.

  • John Peslar

    If TELUS allowed the Essential phone to be sold on their subsidiary brand Koodo, then I would buy it on a tab.

  • Tod Middle-Lane

    on Dec 1st don’t Canadian carriers have to fully unlock (free) any device bought outright? This is a tempting offer but I’d need to see a review that includes all the latest updates…

    • Tod Middle-Lane

      Even at this price I just don’t trust Essential company yet… I got toally burned by Lenovo and a MotoXPE with no Nougat and no security updates… And the U11plus isn’t coming to Canada. Maybe the mate10 if I can find one. Otherwise I may wait until pixel lineup from HTC next year…

    • Elky64

      That’s the problem, if things are as bad as they seem then Essential could easily jump ship and what can anyone do. If I had $650 to burn and was a gambling man I’d definitely take a chance, but I don’t and am not.

    • Tod Middle-Lane

      Agreed, I just can’t trust a company that created above avg spec phone and released it (late) with so many software issues and then had the balls to ask $1050 for it from the start. We’ll wait and see if essential is around same time next year…

    • DaRazorback

      Doesn’t the Essential already come unlocked, I thought they said from the start that it was never going to be locked, like a Nexus device.

    • Tod Middle-Lane

      Good point, I’d hate to buy it and still have any Telus bloatware….

    • John Lofwire

      No Telus software installed on them.

      My friend who work at Telus have one and its clean clean clean 🙂
      Also take amazing picture using a side loaded google pixel camera app with hdr +

    • John Lofwire

      all essential are unlocked out of the box already 🙂

  • Hello Moto ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    $650. Good deal. Priced like a OP5.

  • Andrew Holt

    Sounds like they are just clearing out the remaining stock with no intention of replenishment. This phone failed.

    • John Lofwire

      a friend told me they are doing special training to sell this device why would they do this if its only for remaining stock? ( they are currently doing the training )

    • h2oflyer

      Poor training… the reps at the Telus store I visited yesterday had limited knowledge of the Essential.

  • Russ

    If I hadn’t recently bought a used Samsung S8 for $660, I would have given the Essential a shot.

    The question I have is how much profit/loss they’ll have on the PH-1. With that steep of a discount, it’s hard to believe that they’re going to make any money off of it.

    • RR

      They do have a $300M investment already, so maybe the first step is to get some market share (by lowering the price)? I’m not sure they’ll be successful, but at least might get some more traction at US$500 than US$700.

    • Russ

      Agreed. It was a non-starter at the US$700, particularly when the reviews all agreed that the software wasn’t finished.

  • Yeas

    Just passed the return period on my Apple Watch … darn it.

  • jay

    Went to the Telus store and already sold out. Another chance tomorrow I guess. I believe they will sell fast.

    • rgl168

      Which store did you go to?

  • hoo dat

    The $400 price drop seems to confirm the recent reports of absolutely lousy sales in the US, some have suggested sales as low as 5,000-7,500 units to date (about 3 or 4 weeks ago).

    • Elky64

      Yeah, if that’s true not favourable numbers for a company to continue. Nor does it entice the masses to jump aboard. I’m sure many will just because of the price and hopefully it doesn’t come to bite them in the rear – who knows, I might regent my decision not to get one so the laugh could be on me or those who did not.

      Contemplated getting one myself but could only come up with the 835 as a plus, for me. Build means little as I always adorn mine in a case along with a screen protector, finding either seems few and far between which isn’t a good sign. In the end questioning its future along w/support was the main factors that kept me from buying.

  • h2oflyer

    Any Essential users here to tell us how it’s working

    • h2oflyer

      I know sales are awfully poor…. nobody’s bought one ?

    • Mitchell Leitman

      Still itching to get one

    • h2oflyer

      Me too

    • Mitchell Leitman

      I’ve got one sitting in a cart on US Amazon, but first want to check one out at a local Telus store.

    • h2oflyer

      Be careful…if you like a well crafted device you might get hooked.

      If you’re switching from the P10+ I’ll definately follow you adventure.

    • Mitchell Leitman

      I just picked one up at a Telus store. I’ve got 15 days to decide. Just setting it up now.

    • h2oflyer

      I’m guessing once you had it in hand it was a done deal !

    • Mitchell Leitman

      Pretty much. It is slippery! I’ll say that much

    • Mitchell Leitman

      i’m liking it so far. I’ve taken a few comparison shots indoors at night (comparing against the P10+) and they seem to have similar noise levels. Neither was stellar, but the Essential Phone held its own against an acknowledged leader in the smartphone world.

    • h2oflyer

      I also went to a Telus store and came home with the Essential. Nothing to complain about. The phone was 2 min old and did a dive off the Telus counter ( no case) and landed on it’s back on a tile floor with NO damage. It’s in a case now.

    • Mitchell Leitman

      The camera compares very favourably to the P10+ in indoor shots. I think the monochrome camera on the Huawei beats it, but I frankly don’t use it that often.

    • h2oflyer

      Good to hear how is everything else

    • Mitchell Leitman

      I found out this morning that a charger that I use to charge my Samsung TabPro S windows tablet, which I thought was high wattage, doesn’t do the trick with the PH-1. The phone is snappy, apps open about a second faster than on the P10+ across the board. I’m not the best judge of battery life, I’m afraid, as I tend to plug the phone in when at my desk at work.

    • h2oflyer

      You’ve ticked off most of the boxes for me so far. The only other areas I would be interested in is battery life , call Quality and reception, and outdoor screen visibility

    • Mitchell Leitman

      I’ve not had complaints from anyone about call quality and they sound fine at my end. You do need to adjust to the earpiece being at the very top of the phone, but it came naturally to me. Reception (at least for data) has been good. I haven’t driven and spoken with it long enough to see about dropping calls in some of the weaker spots for coverage on my network (Videotron – in Ottawa). As for outdoor screen visibility, it’s been overcast in Ottawa most of 2017 and we have a winter travel advisory in effect for this evening, so I’m not sure when I’ll have my next sunny day to see how it fares.

    • Mitchell Leitman

      As for battery, I will say that it charges quickly plugged into my computer (USB 2.0) using a generic USB-C cable.

    • Mitchell Leitman

      A pleasant surprise this morning. I frequently listen to internet radio in my car on my way to work. With the P10 (and the KEYone I had before it), I’d lose the signal, once I entered the underground parking at work. Wouldn’t you know it, this phone just managed to hold on to a signal even once parked in a spot. Impressive!

    • Elky64

      Contemplated many a times and tried to find any excuse to do so. At the end of the day said “nope” as we just can’t get that uneasy feeling about it to go away.

      Whomever did buy one hope you enjoy :).

    • okeleydokeley

      Had for 2 days now.. It’s growing on me. Not perfect but not as bad as reported.

    • h2oflyer

      Great. How’s battery life ?

    • okeleydokeley

      Coming from an s7… First day it seemed comparable.was obviously downloading and taxing battery. Second day it seems better.. Early days but looks good.

    • h2oflyer

      Thanks….