BlackBerry discusses the future of BB10

If there is a virtual tombstone to be erected as confirmation of BlackBerry 10’s end, then the company will have to pull the plug first because it has plans to keep it alive for the long term.

It would seem curious that a proprietary operating system could somehow continue to live on when its maker no longer manufactures product that can run it. Indeed, 2016 was the first calendar year without new BB10 hardware since the OS was first introduced in January 2013. This is the paradox that has created the perception BB10 is circling the drain to its ultimate demise, and yet, BlackBerry executives are quick to say otherwise.

As of Q3 2016, BlackBerry’s global market share was at 0.1 per cent, according to Statista. That figure isn’t exclusive to the consumer market — it includes business and enterprise users — but doesn’t include the company’s Android devices, which fall under the 87.5 percent that OS accounted for in the same quarter.

Amidst all that and recent stories about the new ‘Mercury’ device and BB10’s lack of future hardware, Alex Thurber, senior vice president for global device sales at BlackBerry, spoke with MobileSyrup about the future of BB10.

Chugging along

Perhaps it’s no surprise that Thurber affirmed BlackBerry is “continuing to invest in BB10.” Most recently, the company released version 10.3.3 in December after a long wait, and it appears version 10.3.4 may be in the works, though nothing has been confirmed.

“BB10 has a strong following around the world in enterprise and government, as well as consumers in particular markets,” says Thurber. “I want to make sure that our customers and users don’t get concerned that we’re not continuing to support and invest in BB10 because we absolutely are.”

Since BlackBerry doesn’t release any numbers for anything nowadays, it’s not clear how many “millions of users” the company’s OS truly has. What is known is the lack of app support that dogged it from the start has been one of the reasons for BB10’s tailspin.

“It’s out of our hands, but we are continuing to support the OS and Hub”

A recent case in point was WhatsApp’s initial decision to cease supporting the OS by the end of 2016, only to have a change of heart in November and announce that it would extend that to June 30th, 2017. Telus’ MyAccount app stopped its support in November, while Facebook bowed out earlier in the year.

Thurber reiterated BlackBerry’s disappointment in WhatsApp’s initial decision, noting executives were pleased with the extension. Still, the app support exodus is a key element to the BB10 story the company can’t control.

“It’s out of our hands, but we are continuing to support the OS and Hub, as we have so many users who really rely on it as a true messaging device,” he says. “Part of this, of course, reaches back four or five years to strategic decisions that were made, and that’s partly why we added Android to our portfolio, and why we were excited to bring out Priv, and the DTEK devices as true BlackBerry security with full access to the Google Play Store.”

It’s all business

In going with Android-based devices, the obvious implication was that BB10 would either be repositioned as a business and enterprise platform, or be killed off in due time. Since the latter is being publicly rebuked, including in this report, does the former bear fruit?

The recent partnership with TCL is a licensing agreement where it will manufacture BlackBerry-branded devices, with a key tenet of the deal being that it only covers Android-based products. In short, BB10 has nothing do with it.

If not TCL, then who would make phones running BB10? Thurber wouldn’t comment on road maps or hypotheticals, so it’s not clear what recourse BlackBerry would have. The company is no longer manufacturing Classics, Leaps or Passports, as only remaining inventory is currently being sold through its own store, the carriers and other retail channels in different countries.

BlackBerry’s first licensing deal in Indonesia with PT Tiphone in a joint venture called “BB Merah Putih” may provide a clue. The agreement confirmed BB Merah Putih would source, market and distribute BlackBerry devices in that country, though it wasn’t immediately obvious if that meant it would also handle manufacturing or outsource it to a third-party. “Deep negotiations” for a similar agreement are reportedly proceeding in India.

Either way, if a local vendor in a certain country was willing to take the reins and produce handsets for its own market, those would appear to be the kind of licensing deals BlackBerry CEO John Chen referred to when he pulled the company out of building its own hardware.

Thurber cited countries like Indonesia, India and South Africa as markets where “BB10 continues to be a real consumer product where the brand is very strong.”

“In many other countries, the consumer has moved toward the demand for apps and app stores, and that’s part of the reason why a lot of the demand for BB10 has shifted towards traditional users of enterprises, businesses and governments,” he says. “They continue to be a strong customer subset for us today, and do lobby us about about new hardware.”

“We are the only manufacturer besides Google that has committed to providing monthly updates”

Those are developing countries where users are likely to eventually move toward Android and iOS, as has already happened in developed nations. What if BB10 were to be merged with Android somehow? Or could a dual-boot scenario work, similar to how Apple had supported Windows with its Boot Camp software for Intel-based Macs?

“It is an order of magnitude more complex than Boot Camp on a Mac. I wouldn’t say we haven’t looked at that as a potentiality, but it’s a very complex project, so I’m not in any way saying we are pursuing it,” he says. “We get lots of feedback on continuing BB10 on other devices. If we come up with one that makes sense, that meets the demands of our customers, and makes sense from a technology perspective, I’m sure we will pursue it.”

An Android era

BB10’s fading fortunes in North America opened the door to adopting Android and pushing that as the primary software platform, layered on top with BlackBerry’s own unique security icing.

The two most recent devices, the DTEK50 and DTEK60, were TCL-made and have respectively “met their sales targets,” though neither has been publicly revealed. The DTEK50 was essentially a physical clone of the Alcatel Idol 4, and aimed primarily at business and enterprise users in Canada and Western Europe. In the U.S., no carrier offered it.

The DTEK60 was more consumer-oriented, like the Priv was. The central selling point in both cases was more robust and consistent security to better protect users from Android’s vulnerabilities.

“We are the only manufacturer besides Google that has committed to providing monthly updates across our product line in line with Google SMR updates that come out every month, released first on Pixel and then on BlackBerry,” he says.

BlackBerry

The company has been able to maintain that cadence so far, regularly rolling out security updates, as it promised it would. Thurber pointed to “significant changes” made to both the Linux kernel and Android itself before the company releases it to the public on its Android-based devices. The work is done by engineers based in Ottawa, Mississauga and Waterloo, Ontario, and is applied within the manufacturing process “where we touch each phone and inject a crypto-security key before it’s released from the factory.”

Thurber affirmed there are no immediate plans to release the DTEK app to non-BlackBerry branded devices, which appears to include TCL’s Alcatel line.

A marketing strategy?

If there has been one strain of incessant criticism towards BlackBerry, it is its marketing strategy, or lack thereof. Thurber only joined the company in April 2016, so was not on board in preceding years. He wouldn’t comment on what the company had or hadn’t done in the past, though did address what should happen moving forward.

For one, licensing agreements should “enhance” marketing programs, particularly based on location. “What’s more important is that because they are local, they will build a plan and investment strategy that is focused on that market, ensuring they have local marketing that will work and be exactly what they need,” he explains.

He terms it, “global consistency with local flavour,” which is marketing-speak for programs or campaigns that will be specifically focused or tailored to local markets. Global campaigns of the past aren’t likely to appear again anytime soon.

But here in Canada, the U.S. and more advanced markets, the sales angle is centred on security. “The great difficulty in selling security is that when security works, nothing happens,” he says.

That’s not the only difficulty. The BYOD (bring your own device) trend with businesses isn’t a flash in the pan. In 2013, market research firm Gartner projected that half of employers would require their employees to supply their own devices for work purposes by 2017. More recently, however, it also issued a study that found corporate-issued mobile device adoption in the workplace wasn’t mature yet.

On the one hand, BYOD creates an inherent need for security. On the other, room for growth in the enterprise space means there are still plenty of devices to go around.

If Android is to make bigger inroads into that space, BlackBerry would need to grab a slice of that pie based on its stated narrative. But where would that leave BB10?

“We are always looking at what the right technologies are to bring out our OS,” he says. “We have millions of BB10 users who are concerned about high-speed, very secure communication, and we remain committed to supporting them.”

Take that for what you will, but at least for the time being, no one at BlackBerry is about to chuck dirt on the OS.

Comments

  • EcE

    “BB10’s fading fortunes in North America forced BB into adopting Android”

    FIFY

  • Denton

    SO sad a superior OS to android and Apple falls to gimmicks and marketing, Blackberry is also to blame by slowly reacting to a emerging market and therefore app support.
    The DTEK60 is actually an awesome flagship phone, even with Android, BB10 features were added to at least make using Android bearable.

    • Shogun

      Only argument you got. How crappy everything but BB10 is. Get real and get a clue

    • Rev0lver

      Stop attacking people. What is wrong with you?

    • Chug that haterade

      So you can have an negative opinion about BlackBerry but other posters can’t have a positive opinion about it? You should maybe take your own advice…. just sayin’

    • Denton

      I would explain it to you but after I say RTOS…… you would be totally lost….. since any device you ever owned was never capable

    • Shogun

      There has never been nor is there any need for RTOS in a phone.

    • Chug that haterade

      Hahahahahaah riiiiiiight.

    • Denton

      OF course YOU would say that… all you do is launch useless apps…with a toy phone. LMAO!

    • Cowpoke Sal

      Yarp. Awesome.

  • Shogun

    “Since BlackBerry doesn’t release any numbers for anything nowadays”

    This statement pretty much sums it up with this company. Thurber also said in a previous interview that DTEK sales were going well but yet provided no numbers to back that up either.

    The fact is that BB10 is finished and the confirmation they aren’t making anymore Passports or Leaps (something I predicted earlier last year) after discontinuing the Classic is proof just how dead the platform is. Hoping for some manufacturer to come forward and offer to make a device running an OS they have no hope of making any money on is just plain ridiculous and really shows a company in denial letting the damn thing go. I mean have a little self-respect as a corporate entity to admit that as good as the OS was, it didn’t catch on and therefore catering to less than 20 million that MAY still be using that stuff is not a business case to continue with it. The moment they went Android was an outright admission of failure in their hardware endeavours and to pretend otherwise is being facetious.

    “What’s more important is that because they are local, they will build a plan and investment strategy that is focused on that market, ensuring they have local marketing that will work and be exactly what they need,”

    Really? What kind of gobbledygook is this really? Does Thurber actually believe the future of their product line is in second and third world markets that only buy BB10 because people can’t afford more expensive Android and iOS devices? lol! Yeah. Okay Alex. If ‘security’ is the angle they are trying to sell in the North American market where is the initiative in either the consumer or enterprise space? The dearth of their devices in the wild, lost market share in enterprise and the fact its been more than 5-6 years since anyone saw a widespread marketing effort to sell the product what the heck is he talking about? Just admit they haven’t done as well as they should’ve of rather than making up excuses.

    This is why this company has no credibility and is no longer held in any regard, and don’t kid yourself Alex, you aren’t held that high in regard in enterprise either as you once were. Few can take a company seriously that is unable to own up to and correct mistakes of the past .

    Last but not least, why is this company paying another stiff suit executive for a job that theoretically no longer exists? They don’t manufacture or sell devices anymore so why does another fat cat need big pay and stock options for the title of ‘vice president for global device sales’? Maybe you should’ve asked that question. Would’ve loved to hear Thurber’s response to that one. lol

    • Chug that haterade

      Why do you care about his position or what he gets paid? Is it coming out of your pocket?

    • Chug that haterade

      I’m curious why you are so upset about his pay or title?

    • John Jones

      Shogun under many aliases on stockhouse one being “stockscam” has claimed to have shorted Blackberry many times.. there you have your motivation for the constant bashing.

    • Shogun

      Maybe but shorters have made a killing while you’ve lost your shirt.

    • Denton

      LMAO I was right….. PAID SHILL… I dont need to invest in Crooked WS, I make money the old fashion way…………. I EARN IT

    • Shogun

      Or maybe that’s because you really have little money to actually invest and prefer running a corner 7-11 the rest of your life.
      There is nothing wrong with stock trading short or long.

    • Denton

      LMFAO is that what you call it? stock manipulation is trading? WTF would I ever risk my fortune with shills like you manipulating stock prices….*eyeroll*

    • Chug that haterade

      For being such a “successful stock trader”, one does sure spend a lot of time on BlackBerry articles on this site..

    • Chug that haterade

      So the truth comes out…. hahahahahahah

    • kirfer

      This: a hundred times *this*… There’s so much squid ink in the original article above, which is typical Blackberry: hoping to hide the facts beneath an avalanche of blather about how valued BB10 users are, and how they’re still being supported. Reality? Two promises evidently *had* to be fulfilled, and it’ll take two years to do so. There’s your 10.3.3 and 10.3.4: redundant for all but enabling govt procurements (most of which will have long since evaporated, as the departments finally realise that going with BB10 is like investing in a new CRT factory).

    • Chug that haterade

      Speaking of squid ink….

  • Nothing is as secure as BlackBerry 10. BlackBerry 10 has to go on, because users with knowledge of security love BlackBerry 10. BlackBerry 10 forever!

    • Shogun

      yeah right. Whatever pal.

    • Rev0lver

      There was no need for you to respond to this comment. Why not just let people like what they like? Stop trying to convert people to your hateful religion. Just live and let live.

    • birdman_36

      It’s funny that Edward Snowden hasn’t mentioned that.

    • Slash82

      Maybe because it’s market share is way below 0,1%? NSA just certified that this OS “secure enough” (right out of the box) that their employees are allowed to use it for work purposes – that should say everything about it’s security and more important about it’s privacy. Additional to that, just 2 days ago Edward Snowden spoke via a live conference at a Munich congress. He showed a chart about “what companies deliver most personal data to government agencies”. Number one(!) with a big leap to all others was: Apple, followed by MSN and surprisingly Google was/is about in the middle (they were Number 1 in 2009).

    • Cowpoke Sal

      Yarp; it sure is a wiener…I mean, winner.

    • kirfer

      Champagne Comedy!

      Well done!

  • fruvous

    They need to stop pricing them as if they were iPhones and more in line with comparable Android phones.

    • TheTechSmith

      The most expensive device Blackberry sells is $650 for the DTEK60, and an entry level iPhone 7 is $900. DTEK60 is a high end phone, and can trade blows with iPhone 7 beating it in a number of ways.

    • Shogun

      Comparing an iPhone to a DTEK is ridiculous okay. Apple runs iOS and DTEK runs Android. People invested in the Apple ecosystem aren’t going to ditch it for a BB phone. You want to make comparisons then do so from within the offering of Android devices on the market.

    • Rev0lver

      They were responding to a comment about iPhone pricing…Maybe taking a deep breath and counting to three before pounding angrily on the keyboard would help.

    • Denton

      LMAO! SO true this guys a nutjob

    • Shogun

      And what are you Denty? On Chen’s payroll are we? I think so.

    • Rev0lver

      Why are consistently attacking people who disagree with you? What’s it take to get banned from this site?

    • Chug that haterade

      Two weekends ago, I had a discussion with him on an article… all of my responses contained facts about Red Dot Awards, etc… all of his responses were filled with personal attacks… yet he is still here. Smh

    • kirfer

      Red Dot awards: LOL!

      Congratulations, you’ve “won” a Red Dot Award. Now, which of our wonderful series of compulsory marketing packages will you be purchasing?

    • Shogun

      No one cares about Red Dot awards buy that guy just doesn’t get it. Lol.
      He is as thick as molasses

    • Rev0lver

      No one cares what Shogun has to say but that guy just doesn’t get it. Lol. He is as thick as molasses

    • Chug that haterade

      Where did I say that the general public cared about Red Dot Awards? Oh wait.. I didn’t. My point was that you claimed BlackBerry couldn’t design an outhouse… yet they’ve won numerous awards for their design… so now who is thick as molasses?

      Ps. The whole passive aggressive not responding directly to me is pretty cowardly if you ask me…

    • kirfer

      Not to mention about as sticky…

      Chug’s OCD is in overdrive of late.

    • Chug that haterade

      Yet you’re here….. oh the irony!!

    • kirfer

      I rest my case…

    • Chug that haterade

      Recruiting? Is there enough room?

    • Cowpoke Sal

      This ^^^

    • Chug that haterade

      Like clockwork….

    • Denton

      I hear Apples iPhone8 is a regurgitated 4 …LOL…And you will still lineup to buy the next ZERO innovation device…hey I have some swamp land in austr…..errrr….. never mind

    • Shogun

      Yeah and they sell in the tens of millions still don’t they Denty. What’s your argument going to be? How everyone else is stupid and only a BB drone is smart? lol! The arrogance that brought that company’s downfall is a disease that still afflicts its users.
      Fact is you don’t know jackshjt about the iPhone 8 but as most insecure types that’s your villain in the room you need to focus on to mask BB failures.

    • Denton

      Yeah and Mcdonalds sells Billions of hamburgers so that makes them the best right?….LMAO…..
      obviously I am talking to a kid, you have no job or skills but it makes you feel important spouting off BS on the internet…….<>

    • Shogun

      In the world of fast food it likely does buddy. The fact you need to compare a slab of meat on a bun with technology in this market shows how desperate you are.

    • Chug that haterade

      Hahahahahah speaking of desperate . sales = more bedda.

    • Cowpoke Sal

      You play golf, Denty? What’s your handicap…other than the obvious ones, that is?

    • Chug that haterade

      And you don’t know anything about the Mercury nor have you ever used it but you seem willing to share your opinion on it every chance you get.

    • kirfer

      Stick to the stoking the steam engines, Denty. You’re not very good with words.

    • Denton

      Stick with grammar Doc , we all know you suck at everything else.

    • kirfer

      Nice one, Denty!

    • Cowpoke Sal

      Let’s hope so, Denty. The 4 is a better phone than anything out of Waterloo…ever.
      PressedPort…LOL!

    • Chug that haterade

      Riiiiiiight

    • Chug that haterade

      Of course.. anyone that doesn’t bash BlackBerry is on Chen’s payroll.

    • birdman_36

      I like cake.

    • Cowpoke Sal

      Me too.

    • Cowpoke Sal

      …or sitting on his knee?

    • Chug that haterade

      Naaaaw..

    • Denton

      I am not on anyone’s payroll, I have my own company and use Blackberry products to communicate with my employees, you on the other hand have mental problems…seriously seek help.

    • Shogun

      Grow up Denty. Really. That’s the only argument you guys have left isn’t it? Seek mental help. I suggest you get an education and learn to properly critique an article like this full of BS and inconsistencies from this outfit.

    • Rev0lver

      Wow!

    • Chug that haterade

      Isn’t it amazing how this guy is still able to post here? Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for alternate opinions and a good debate… but he has no interest in intellectual discourse here… and the personal attacks are getting out of hand

    • Cowpoke Sal

      Try telling that to Denty…

    • Chug that haterade

      Why? Denton already knows

    • Chug that haterade

      The only argument we have left? Is there any other one? No sane person would spend this much time ripping on a company that doesn’t even know he exists.

    • Denton

      I started my company 20 years ago, from my living room and garage, I do an average of 1.5M a year, you on the other hand are just another pathetic sociopath, jealous because most successful types use BlackBerry, congrats on owning a million fart apps & owning hardware that either bends or catches fire (buy another one)…..but hey don’t you look soooo cool

    • Shogun

      Oh really? So I guess all those suits in downtown Toronto i see using phones other than BlackBerry aren’t that successful huh? Or the other business owners i know. Or the orthodontist friend of mine who dumped BB in 2013?
      You’re an arrogant piece of work Denty ridiculously out of touch with reality and apparently psychiatry is a hobby of yours since you seem so adept making diagnosis over a chat board. Lmao.

      Take a hike pal

    • Chug that haterade

      So you post about a “friend” and some random people in downtown Toronto… but how about you post about YOUR business accomplishments?

    • Denton

      Tell us your success’s…. I mean what level Pokemon have you achieved?

    • Shogun

      Oh how original Denty. What’s the matter? Run out of arrogant stereotypical comments BB fanboys are known for?

    • Chug that haterade

      Called out by two people, he continues to deflect.

    • Rev0lver

      Living in mom’s basement is a job right?

    • Denton

      Still waiting….. what is that you do again? I mean other than play Pokemon you must have a job? or is timmy sending you a check every week?

    • Chug that haterade

      Must be on Apple’s payroll as no sane person would spend night and day here commenting about a company he has no interest in…

    • Cowpoke Sal

      On his lap…

    • Chug that haterade

      You lost?

    • Chug that haterade

      Truer words have never been spoken… yet he hangs around here like beggar looking for some change.

    • John Jones

      No it isn t rediculous Why would you pay more for a Samsung ?

    • Shogun

      The two phones aren’t truly competing that’s why.
      You want to compare Samsung to DSHJT then of course that’s fair game.

    • Chug that haterade

      Obsession by BlackBerry…..

    • TheCuddlyKoala

      LOL

  • Captain Henry Morgan

    Sad for Blackberry. They had the chance to maintain their market share when people wanting them to ditch BBOS and switched to Android but they hesitated and switched when its already too late.

    • TheCuddlyKoala

      Blackberry has historically always been too late.

    • Chug that haterade

      Riiiight… must be why my Passport has had dark browser for the past 2+ years and Apple is finally starting to roll it out in iOS.

    • Denton

      Whats an Apple?

    • Chug that haterade

      Apple will do being too late right.

    • Cowpoke Sal

      About $5.99 a kilo.

    • Cowpoke Sal

      Later than cherry blossom when river freezes in spring, Koala-San…

    • Chug that haterade

      *yawn*

    • Cowpoke Sal

      Well, if you’re on the site 24/7, dude-brah…

    • Shogun

      I think the real problem was they didn’t give a shjt about courting developers to build applications for their platform. This is evidenced by the fact that Lazaridis had a disdain for ‘apps’ and believed that all could be done merely through a mobile web browser. I mean would it have killed these guys to build a proper SDK to lend some weight to the initiative? Not really.

    • Captain Henry Morgan

      It is ironic to think that the founder of the company is the one who would destroy it.

    • Shogun

      Not really. There is a reason ‘founders’ tend to be eased out of their roles in some companies because their vision can only take it so far before the market changes substantially enough to make their views outdated. Its a rare CEO in tech that sticks around through 2 or 3 major upheavals in the market place to oversee a transition to a new branding and product line.
      On the other hand its exceedingly rare to see 2 or 3 numbnuts succeed each other only to a lead a company further down the path of ruin.

    • Chug that haterade

      Because you know so much about being a CEO?

    • John Jones

      It really bothers you that they are still able to license Android and Blackberry gets a royalty out of it. I don t care who makes a Blackberry As long as i Can get one. The brand lives on in hardware and you ll be bashing for another 20 ye

    • Shogun

      Nope but it bothers you I confront you and your I’ll with certain truths you can’t stand.

    • Chug that haterade

      Truths? ROTFLMAO….

  • Shogun

    Cant see his posts but our good friend Chug is out here again like the last Templar defending the relic from apostates. lol!
    He should really change his name to Chugging the Koolaid because never seen somebody so delusional.

    • Rev0lver

      Fake ignoring people then talking about them is pathetic and juvenile. This site would be much better if you were banned

    • Chug that haterade

      Naaaw… I just got here… but it isn’t surprising that you’ve already gassed the comment section of this BlackBerry article. If you’ve actually put anyone on ignore, I’m sure you log out constantly to read our comments.

  • awhite2600

    My employer supplied Z30 is running 10.3.2. The article talks about 10.3.3 being available since December. Every time I check for OS updates the device says that it’s up to date. Should I hold my breath to see 10.3.4?

    • Denton

      Only phone purchased through Blackberry are getting the initial updates, carrier update is not out yet.
      MY Passport SE is updated but my wifes and brothers older Passport (carrier bought) still haven’t got the update.

    • kirfer

      Let’s be honest: it’s not like they’re missing anything…

    • Denton

      How would you know? you’re still fixated on the same reiteration of a 4, which was stolen technology from Jobs himself….*eyeroll*

    • kirfer

      Not even the leader of the Lackbury Evangelical Society himself can point to a single new feature in 10.3.3. Same ancient Android runtime as well.

      Utterly hilarious: 1.5GB and a year in the waiting, and you get diddly squat. Hands up who thinks 10.3.4 is going to be any different…

    • Denton

      Who cares!…. still lasts twice as long as any iPhony device, golly Doc, when will iPhone ever catch up with technology? I mean do you finally get to multitask? When will they ever stop bending, breaking and catching fire? OH right…thats how they increase sales LOL!

    • kirfer

      What was someone saying about you being stuck in 2005?

      Close, but I think it’s more like 1895. Keep stoking those fires, Denty!

      How are the chimney-sweeps these days? Have you equipped them with new Alcatel’s yet?

    • Denton

      better than being stuck in the unemployment line….eh Doc?

      How will you ever afford the new 8…. which is basically the 7…. and transformed from a 6….. and copied from a 5…. which technology was stolen as a 4?

    • Shogun

      Yeah as if people using anything other than a Crapberry are in the unemployment line. Pretty desperate Denty

    • Cowpoke Sal

      And there we have it folks. The cut and thrust of this excellent game of mixed doubles has kept us all glued to our seats!
      WHO is in the technological vanguard? On one side of the net we have the most successful and innovative technology company that has literally changed the way we communicate and live and on the other we have a small grinning gentleman in a toupee who is now commissioning TCL (makers of budget ‘trailer park’ TV sets) to construct his ‘new’ devices that are…er…running someone else’s…um…OS. But whether you’re a consumer or a prosumer, there’s something for everybody; hurrah!
      And remember, y’all, it’s the taking part that counts!

    • Chug that haterade

      You lost? Of course you are…

    • Chug that haterade

      That seems to be the case in your situation….

    • kirfer

      LOL! Keep hoping, Denton…

      In the meantime, keep stoking those steam engines! Have you sold Blackburied on the idea of going “full steam ahead” yet?

    • Chug that haterade

      Isn’t it hilarious how the same three continue to post here yet they have no interest in BlackBerry much less BB10… smh

    • Chug that haterade

      What is utterly hilarious is your obsession about it…

    • kirfer

      What is utterly hilarious is that it’s true!

      Do keep searching, Dingle!

    • Chug that haterade

      What is hilarious is Apple’s OS releases are nothing but a cluster of bugs and half baked features..

    • Chug that haterade

      Who is the carrier? The Passport SE I purchased directly from BlackBerry got the 10.3.3 update on the first day they released it…

    • awhite2600

      Bell.

  • Slash82

    App support is out of their hands? LOL!
    What about new SDKs for OS10?
    What about updated Android runtime (to fill the app gap)?

    This I a joke. How should any developer be interested with the lack of that and with additionally no new devices on the horizon?
    Also for costumer there is no choice with that!

    • I count 5 – 4 – 3 – 2 – 1 that this person at BlackBerry gets fired.

    • Slash82

      Nah, Chen himself (including his board) ordered that.

  • Matt

    Even if there is no direct app available in the blackberry app world. You can still install APK’s for every app you want if you just Google the apk in your browser and still can download every app you want. You can still download facebook and whatsapp apks online.

    • Shogun

      Uh…why would anyone want to spend hundreds on a phone then have to use sideloaded APK’s to use apps? This was a selling point of the devices before and its failed. People want stuff that works out of the box, especially considering the cost. Not be told they have to find workarounds using inferior APK’s at times that don’t always get updated in the same way to take advantage of applications

    • Chug that haterade

      Inferior APKs? Riiight because the APKs I download from Snap aren’t current. smh

    • Azim Esmail

      Um… download an install the APKPure App Store, or use Cobalts Google Play Services and get the Google Play Store running on the phone.

      Either option will give you updates for apps.

    • Shogun

      Both are substitutes for the genuine article. You missed the point of my comment which is typical of fanboys.

    • Azim Esmail

      I’m not a fanboy. I have an iPhone, Huawei Mate 9, and a Passport. I switch every time I get bored with a phone.

    • Shogun

      Well good for you but it still doesn’t address the fact BB10 is dead and using side loaded APKs and substitute Play Stores doesn’t cut it. If it did the platform wouldn’t be in dire straits. Do you get it now? You let me know when you do okay

    • Azim Esmail

      Just wondering, why is hating BlackBerry such a big deal to you?

      I don’t know anyone who willingly writes multiple essays per day on any topic.

    • Chug that haterade

      Of course… no response

    • Chug that haterade

      According to some here, if you have anything even remotely positive to say about BlackBerry, you are either a delusional fanboy or on Chen’s payroll.

    • Chug that haterade

      I’m sure all have their pros and cons but what seems to be your “go to” device? What version of the Passport do you own?

    • Azim Esmail

      Silver Edition.

    • Chug that haterade

      Nice. Same here. Device is killer, especially considering I paid only 400 bucks for it

    • Azim Esmail

      I broke one, then found one of eBay for $280. Used but 10/10 condition, and free returns if I’m not satisfied. I was lucky not to have to pay full price.

    • Chug that haterade

      I’m definitely considering picking up at least one more in case mine breaks..

    • Azim Esmail

      My passport seems to be used more often than the others. Hundreds of texts and emails a day. The physical keyboard and wide screen makes it easier.

    • Denton

      Yup… thats why I have one….awesome communication device

    • Azim Esmail

      And my Mate 9 will hopefully be replaced by the Mercury.

    • Azim Esmail

      My point is that if you’re not lazy, there are workarounds.

    • Chug that haterade

      Or 3rd party native apps available like Face10, Inst10, etc

    • Shogun

      And my point is that people aren’t interested in workarounds in a device today. Or maybe you missed that in my earlier comment. Or perhaps the entire point of this article concerning a dead OS and a company’s vain attempt to pretend otherwise

    • Azim Esmail

      Why does it matter to you though?

    • Azim Esmail

      There are obviously people interested…. you’ve been arguing with some for however long…

      You do realize that, right?

  • Shogun

    Note to Revolver…Hey. I guess you’ve never heard of how its possible to be logged out of Disqus and therefore the posters you ignore show up so while I can assure you both of you are on ignore I feel it necessary to address a couple of your points.

    1) The only thing sad and pathetic is how you seem to show up on nearly every story I comment on to throw your two cents in (and trust me it ain’t worth that much) to make a personal attack on me without offering anything of substance on your own. Calling people to be banned or trolls based on YOUR behaviour alone is laughable.

    2) In regards the poster who commented about the DTEK vs. the iPhone pricing I wasn’t talking about the price man and if you took your head out of your backside long enough to realize that before ‘pounding on your keyboard’ you’d realize that. It makes little sense to compare two devices that really aren’t even competing with each other in price or any other way when the average iPhone user isn’t likely to abandon that platform for a discount on an Android device they have little investment in and vice versa. Are you capable of anything intelligent thought? I sincerely doubt it.

    You are by far the biggest troll around here and I’m not too sure how that even started since we never really had much dialogue before until you decided to take it upon yourself to be some sort of self-styled ‘troll slayer’ lol! Quite pathetic man. Really.

    • Rev0lver

      Ha. Like you don’t read every one of my comments. You can’t help yourself.

      Let people enjoy blackberry or whatever they want to. Quit attacking people who disagree with you and make an attempt at not being a price of human excrement.

    • Chug that haterade

      He can’t NOT comment on BlackBerry articles… supposedly he is here for entertainment but I think there is more to it.

    • Azim Esmail

      Maybe Chen refused to date him, so he’s pissed at BlackBerry as a whole.

    • Shogun

      lol! How old are really? You think that’s some sort of insult? For a teenager I’m sure it is

    • Chug that haterade

      And you’re a model of maturity?

  • kirfer

    So all that blather above can really be reduced to a few simple sentences: the future of BB10 (aka “dodoOS”) is the same as the present of dodoOS. There will be no functional updates at all, and 10.3.4 will be of value only to a handful of government procurers, who require a new level of circus tricks if they’re going to be able to consider purchasing the devices. That is, 10.3.4 will be as inconsequential as 10.3.3, with exactly zero end-user facing features, and BB10 users will be stuck with the ancient kitkat runtime until their device stops booting.

    Sad, but hardly surprising given that they sacked the entire BB10 dev team.

    • Chug that haterade

      Obsession by BlackBerry…

    • kirfer

      Oh dear: looks like telling the truth about BB10’s lack of future leads to comments being deleted. Oh well: it’s not as if it’s not glaringly obvious to anyone outside of the increasingly tiny echo chamber of Blackburied fans on here…

    • Chug that haterade

      Mega….litres

    • kirfer

      At least, I’d say. Probably gigalitres…

    • Chug that haterade

      It’s your tears..

    • kirfer

      Nice one!

    • Cowpoke Sal

      I’d go further…’GAGolitres’. But what are they a-gaggin’ on…?

    • kirfer

      I think something might be “pivoting” in their throats, poor little darlings…

      Just you wait: 2017, year of the Lackbury turnaround. And linux on the desktop. And the year bluetooth works flawlessly… Heck, maybe Apple will release a G5 powerbook as well?

  • CaseyC

    I wish Rogers (Canada) would wake up and at least acknowledge that 10.3.3 exists. I’ve been asking them since mid December when 10.3.3 will be available and it seems like they don’t know anything about it. A co-worker on Bell’s network received the update a couple of weeks ago.

    I’m glad I bought my Passport SE directly from BlackBerry. At least one of our BB’s will get OS updates in a timely manner.

  • Thurber made a great point. When security works, nothing happens which makes people forget how important it is. Factor that in with how little people care about protecting their personal information and you have today.

    Being a fraudster now has to be the easiest it has ever been.

    • Shogun

      Thurber has no point. This guy is a clown because what he’s basically saying is that they are no longer going to manufacture BB10 devices but hopes others do and that until the last BB10 device on the planet dies, they may continue with a yearly update to make it look like they haven’t given it up for dead when its obvious they have but just haven’t got the cajones to admit it. It’s vintage Blackberry.

      As far as security goes its a specious argument to make that a device alone protects a person when an individuals own habits and carelessness lead to more incidents of ‘hacking’ than some omnipotent OS. That’s company propaganda and that’s all.

    • Chug that haterade

      So you have proof that BB10 isn’t secure? And why do you care what BlackBerry does with BB10? They investing millions of dollars into creating it… why do they need to “dump it”? Does it impact you in any way?

    • Rev0lver

      So anyone who disagrees with you is a clown?

    • Chug that haterade

      Don’t forget they are either a delusional fanboy or on Chen’s payroll as well…

    • BBRYSUXBALLS_2.1

      Just like Chuggy.

    • Chug that haterade

      If you don’t have a car and you’re walking
      Oh yes, son, I’m talking to you
      If you live at home with your mamma
      Oh yes, son, I’m talking to you (baby)
      If you have a shorty but you don’t show love
      Oh yes, son, I’m talking to you
      Wanna get with me with no money
      Oh no, I don’t want, no (oh)

      No scrub
      No scrub (no, no)
      No scrub (no, no, no, no, no)
      No scrub (no, no)
      No

    • Shogun

      The guy is comic gold

    • Chug that haterade

      Still too cowardly to respond directly?

    • Shogun

      This company is a fraud as far as I’m concerned.

    • Not sure where your other comment went but how is a company continuing to support their products a bad thing?

      And security does start with each individual person but it helps when companies add layers of security to protect consumers. A lot of information is online and up until all the high level breaches, nothing was really done to protect it.

    • Chug that haterade

      His other comment met the same fate as 90 percent of his other comments…

    • Shogun

      J-Ro they aren’t supporting anything. When a company says that its no longer making BB10 devices but hopes someone else does and meanwhile they may release updates going forward what do you think the end result here is? Extinction. There is no other way to put it but the company hasn’t go the balls to admit its over with that platform. Four Android devices and one BB10 update later would tell anyone the same thing.
      I maintain that Thurber is an empty suit because his job doesn’t exist anymore. A VP for global device sales in a company no longer making devices but acts merely as storefront for TCL now is nothing short of laughable.

    • Chug that haterade

      Did it ever occur to you that BlackBerry might be waiting to release another BB10 device at a different time in the future? Does it really matter what they do with it? And what is your concern with his position? Is his salary coming out of your personal bank account?

    • kirfer

      LOL!

      Well done: delusion on an unprecedented scale. I thought I’d heard it all. Yes, yes, they’re secretly working on another dodoOS device without any dodoOS developers left. They can barely muster the “talent” to pull an update together, Dingle, let alone anything that would be considered a new feature…

    • Chug that haterade

      Maybe they should poach some “talent” from Apple. Hahahahahahahahahah hahaoahahahaha

    • Shogun

      Haha. I caught a glimpse of his comment before and it’s absurd. The past 3-4 years for BB10 have been disastrous so why would anyone think they’ll revive this 2-3 years from now? What’s that definition of insanity?

      When a company is no longer an OEM and gives up on design and marketing, to say nothing of firing the BB10 support team, they have left the business altogether. This idea they haven’t given up on hardware “per se” is truly the last defence of the weak and delusional. Then again we are talking about a guy here who thinks calling me out for not fully explaining the concept of “goodwill” means he can dismiss the substance of the issues as evidenced in their financials he prefers to ignore. Delusional indeed

    • kirfer

      ‘twould indeed be insanity. That parrot is definitely not only “pining for the fjords”…

      Dingle’s reading of the recent quarter’s financial report is possibly the most blatant and revealing act of delusion I’ve seen from him. And that’s saying something! The report was an unmitigated disaster, with revenue slipping almost 50% YoY (again…), and from such a pitiful base. All else is just so much window dressing, counting angels dancing on the head of a pin, etc: 50% YoY is just brutal.

    • Chug that haterade

      You making some room? BTW…. remind us all about Apple’s financial situation back in 96-98….

    • kirfer

      Give Mr Chen a call, Dingle: you could be the Steve Jobs that Lackbury so desperately needs! Well, OK, back to reality: maybe you can proofread the press releases, and give Mr Chen a few English lessons along the way?

      Oh, wait…

    • Chug that haterade

      Naaaw… I already have a job. Maybe that is something you can look into.

    • kirfer

      Aspire, man: heck, once those rudimentary English lessons have been mastered, CloacaBury is your oyster…

      2037 or so, judging by the current rate…

    • Chug that haterade

      Aother montrosity?

    • kirfer

      Thank you for underlining my point.

      Very generous!

    • Chug that haterade

      Yup.. but I think 2037 is a little optimistic given the issues with spelling and reading comprehension that you exhibit

    • kirfer

      True, but why are you quoting me, Dingle?

    • Chug that haterade

      Because I think your original estimate of you grasping the English language is quite optimistic…

    • kirfer

      Too dull..

    • Chug that haterade

      Megalitres

    • Shogun

      He never even responded to the critical points of how this company cooks its books writing off inventory and then claiming such huge margins the next quarter. LMAO! He also doesn’t seem to understand the nature of corporate overhead and that in fact software revenue alone is only half of what it costs to keep this pig company in business. Instead he dances around the issues talking about some goodwill that was written off, as if that’s a good thing here, and then proceeds to attack me because I didn’t properly explain that goodwill is meant to generally enhance value of a company versus taking away from it.
      By focusing on definitions of investment terms he can avoid the real issues because he knows he can’t read a financial properly and hasn’t got a leg to stand on.

    • kirfer

      Yep: it’s actually even simpler than that with Dingle. Like all fundamentalists, Dingle “knows” the truth already, and spends his time trying to find supporting evidence for that received truth. In this case the “truth” that Mr Chen has turned (what remains of) the ship around, and it’s already back in the land of the profitable.

      If the facts don’t agree with the “truth” then those facts are jettisoned, misinterpreted, denied, or plain old lied about. See, for example, all the squid ink you’ve been having to swim through in the discussions of the last quarterly report.

      There’s no arguing with such people, because the received truth isn’t even in dispute for them.

    • Chug that haterade

      Hahahaa and you care why? Obsession by BlackBerry?

    • kirfer

      Print it out and take it to therapy, Dingle.

      Save yourself a few sessions…

    • Chug that haterade

      So no reason other than the obsession? Gotcha

    • kirfer

      That’s a good enough reason for your therapist to work with, Dingle. Run with that one…

    • Chug that haterade

      “I know you are”…..

    • kirfer

      Nope, I don’t think that has quite the same degree of analytical penetration.

    • Chug that haterade

      Hahaha more of the usual denying and deflecting

    • kirfer

      Too dull…

    • Chug that haterade

      Well… that too… but I didn’t figure there was any need to point out the obvious

    • Chug that haterade

      I can’t read a “financial properly ” yet you’re making claims about goodwill, adjusted EBITDA, etc…. dream on buddy… yes, they have overhead not attributed to software.. so what? All companies have some level over unattributed overhead. Would you like Chen to lay off more people and sell some more buildings to bring down their overhead costs? Oh wait, you are constantly ripping on him for layoffs. And maybe try having a discussion directly with me (minus the personal attacks) instead of the behind the back sniping while pretending you are ignoring me.

    • Chug that haterade

      Of course you caught a glimpse of my comment…. you’ve been gassing this article in your typical fashion ever since it was posted…. and you explained it… you just explained it incorrectly… just like your claim about adjusted EBITDA and your claim about BlackBerry not being able to update the software on TCL BlackBerrys…..see where I’m going with this?

    • John Jones

      It really bothers you that they can license out Android Blackberries to the world And that Tcl can take on any big player. Through Tcl Blackberry will make a royalty on every sale. I don t care who makes BlackBerries as long as i can get one. You’re going to be here a long time bashing. ThiNg is that ANdroid has the biggest User base for their Ecosystem In the world. RIght move Chen ..

    • Shogun

      What has this got to do with BB10 huh? Trust me when I say that whatever money BB makes from TCL-Android devices will be peanuts compared to revenue in their golden years.
      Do you think TCL would bother making BB10 devices? Not very likely and that’s the point of the story here. A desperate company trying hard to maintain the illusion that an OS of total irrelevance has some sort of future beyond a couple years worth of pointless updates and a dwindling number of legacy devices that ensures its total extinction within the next 5-6 years tops. Its past time this company admit that the platform is finished rather than tossing the same salad they have for over 4 years when the writing has been on the wall and everyone can see it except them

    • John Jones

      Are you privy to any information past or present detailing what plans they have for their business going forward? You are a bitter low level former employee that lost his job.. sorry about your job loss but find a better hobby. I m all in favour of competition believe me as only the consumer can benefit from it, but you never mention that Apple continues to lose market share quarter after quarter.

    • Shogun

      Do you know how ironic your comment sounds? lol You say I’m a ‘bitter former employee’ and whether I have information about their business going forward??? Uh, chances are if I were a former staffer I’d know quite a bit about their inner workings and failings.
      No, as an investor of over 20 years experience I’ve seen plenty of companies rise and fall and often for much the same reasons in the case of the latter. This company has no market share and is merely trying to prop itself up hitching a ride with Android to save what’s left of their hardware dreams. Anyone can see that. Furthermore, their business is stale which is to say low growth with very little potential for revenue growth going forward. If you think they are going to rake in $1 billion a quarter licensing some stock Androids you need to wake up.

      As far as Apple is concerned last I looked that stock is $120 today while BB has totally tanked since the earnings in December. The market is generally fed up with Chen and his ‘turnaround’ because it just ain’t working. And while you may hate Apple its still profitable, pays a dividend to shareholders and sells more devices in a quarter than BB has in 5 years.

    • John Jones

      Tcl can compete with the big boys “stockscam” one of the many handles you use depending on which site you are currently bashing on.. Bring it on..

    • Shogun

      TCL is a junk brand in North America and you know it. Keep pumping over at Stockhouse Jubatus, Nelly, XXYZGBarff,…or whatever you call yourself these days. I guess that $65 stock prediction for Apple isn’t going too well EH? lol!

    • John Jones

      If it wasn t for the billions timmy borrows to pay the dividend and support the stock it would be at 65$ and you know it. Ps didn t Ichan dump all his holdings of timmy’s stock?

    • Shogun

      Are you for real? This coming from a guy that pumps a stock where paying Watsa over $50 million to line his pockets with debenture interest and over $100 million in a useless stock buyback with next to no R&D budget? lmfao!
      That comment of yours just confirms in reality how little you know about investing and why you’re holding the proverbial bag on that thing. I mean how deep are you into the stock that you can’t admit you’ve been had? You’re hilarious.

      BTW, your incessant need to attack Apple to feel good about a crappy investment in Blackberry tells me you need to consider handing what’s left of your money to a professional investment advisor.

    • John Jones

      I don t dislike competition like you.. Why should’nt their be choice in the market? But do tell me how is A Blackberry Android less an ANdroid than Samsung?

    • Shogun

      Sure I like competition. I just don’t feel that a company like BB provides it or capable of it anymore. That’s all.

    • Chug that haterade

      Of course you don’t…. BlackBerry could find a cure for cancer and you’d have something snarky to say about it..

    • Cowpoke Sal

      Funnily enough, blackberries do contain compounds that are now known to combat cancer, similar to that red sweet potato that the Japanese eat and pomegranites.
      Their health benefits may be greater than we know…unlike that niche cellular phone manufacturer, however, whose benefits are negligible.

    • Chug that haterade

      *yawn*

    • Shogun

      Any Android device can download Hub or DTEK. And no one cares about root of trust fundamentally except some IT geeks perhaps.
      And what the hell is BB Bide? lol!

    • Chug that haterade

      Yes…we get it… you don’t like BlackBerry…. nobody is holding a gun to your head to buy a BlackBerry device

    • yessuz

      yes, everybody can. for certain fee 🙂

    • John Jones

      Google Blackerry fresh patents you ll see they are still doing a lot of reasearch and development.

    • Shogun

      They aren’t doing anything buddy. Why do you continue to delude yourself huh? Its almost like you physically enjoy pain and/or losing money.
      Google may be spending $10 or $15 billion on R&D but BB spends what? $500 million? lmao!
      I think most people know where to hedge their bets and it ain’t in Waterloo.

    • Chug that haterade

      Gassing the comment board again?

    • yessuz

      HiSense (Tv manufacturer) is not the best brand in the eyes of the American consumer either.
      But Sharp is.

      that’s why HiSense sells their telly’s in USA as Sharp. You know, brand licensing?

    • Chug that haterade

      Me thinks he works for Motley Fool… hopefully people don’t actually trust him with their money.

    • Chug that haterade

      He likes to make outlandish claims like he thinks he knows what he is talking about. Just ask about his claim that TCL wouldn’t be allowing BlackBerry to update the software on the BlackBerry devices made by TCL…. oh wait, BlackBerry confirmed they will be updating them just as they do today.

    • Cowpoke Sal

      TCL certainly make some very competitively priced televisions; a little cheap and tacky but…meh…you gets what you pays for, eh?

    • I agree that people need to take more measures with security. I think having a device built around security is one of them. I know you don’t like blackberry but their are OEM’s out there that don’t support their phones 6 months after launch. To keep updates going is pretty huge. A software update can make a 4 year old device feel snappy again which is something you don’t see too often these days.

      I get you hate them but you can’t say that isn’t a benefit for customers

    • Chug that haterade

      Because they report both GAAP and Non GAAP earnings? Or because you have never heard of adjusted EBITDA?

    • John Jones

      I think the difference between GAAP and Non GAAP was miniscule. Something like 21 million.. Turn around is another Chen sepecialty.. Almost there.. If revenue increases soon which they guided on an upward trajectory then expect and increase in the stock price.

    • Shogun

      Chen got lucky with Sybase not because he possesses any particular skill set turning around anything.
      Also he inflates his numbers writing off inventory and overhead is killing the outfit making software anything but profitable
      And how about revenue? Decline continues and even Chen knows that needs to change for them to make money.

    • Chug that haterade

      But you’ve turned companies around? Wait, nobody knows because you continually avoid answering the question…

    • Rev0lver

      Where did you get your many businesses degrees oh great CEO?

    • Chug that haterade

      *crickets*

  • MO

    Two things about DTEK phones : they don’t get updated as quickly as BB pretends ; and I’d like BB to implement the context menu the way they did in BB10 (tap & hold), much more convenient than current Android

  • Graylingboy

    If it doesn’t cost too much to keep BB10 alive , why not keep it going? Nothing else does security, multi tasking and communications like it.
    This beautiful old dog may yet have its day. Make it ultra high end. If people want flimsy mediocrity there will always be the likes of Apple and Samsung.

    • Shogun

      People like you are in sooo much denial its truly sad.

    • Graylingboy

      You’ll get over it. X

    • Shogun

      You need to get over the fact this company is finished in the hardware business. I find it hilarious how a firm so intent on focusing on ‘software’ has made more announcements about hardware since September than nearly anything else.
      Like the fanboys, they just can’t let go of the ‘dream’

    • Chug that haterade

      I find it hilarious how you can’t seem to grasp the fact that 1. BlackBerry has never said they were finished in the hardware business per se. 2. BlackBerry still had devices in their existing pipeline and 3. There is a connection between hardware and software…

    • Rev0lver

      “In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey…”

    • Chug that haterade

      I beck you just thought of that…

    • Chug that haterade

      And what are people like you?

    • kirfer

      Realists?

    • Chug that haterade

      Obsessed?

    • kirfer

      Yes, you are: next question?

    • Chug that haterade

      Hahaahah again, the irony….

    • kirfer

      That’s not a question.

    • Chug that haterade

      #duh

    • kirfer

      Nor’s that…

    • Rev0lver

      People like you are truly sad. I’m not sure what’s the matter with you but my first guess would be lots.

    • Cowpoke Sal

      I likes a comedian, I tells ya!
      Flimsy? That there Pirv creaked like the floorboards in an Arkansas Shitsu massage parlour…

    • Chug that haterade

      But only 9 bent…

    • Cowpoke Sal

      B-B-B-B-B-Bu’….

    • BBRYSUXBALLS_2.1

      They have 11 bb10 users left worldwide

    • Chug that haterade

      *yawn*

    • Denton

      Egypt Air iPhone disaster?…..yeah thought so

    • Shogun

      Beautiful old dog? More like a mangy rabies infested mutt that can’t stop barking and foaming at the mouth. Much like its most vociferous defenders.

    • Chug that haterade

      Or the obsessed that continue to come here gassing BlackBerry articles with their usual stench

  • BBRYSUXBALLS_2.1

    Put a bullet in it already.

    TLC is the future

    • Chug that haterade

      Don’t go chasin’ waterfalls……

    • BBRYSUXBALLS_2.1

      I’m sure all bb10 users are chasing waterfalls

    • Chug that haterade

      Naaaw…

    • BBRYSUXBALLS_2.1

      And PastPort users too.

    • After the Honey BooBoo scandal, maybe not.

    • Denton

      TLC? is that what you get on Kirfy’s Lap?

    • Chug that haterade

      LMFAO!!

    • BBRYSUXBALLS_2.1

      Hey banned Denty, I’m sure DaDS can explain everything TLC related to you.

    • Denton

      I can log on anytime to Bee Gee R…you and KKKsal …..not so much LOL!

    • BBRYSUXBALLS_2.1

      Ha ha.. poor banned Denty. At lest you have one friend left in the world, DaDS.

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  • Shogun

    Best to sum this article up as “BB10 has no future” and if the company had the courage they’d own up to it and say the same.

    • Chug that haterade

      Why do you care? Does it impact you in any way, shape, or form what BlackBerry does with BB10?

    • BBRYSUXBALLS_2.1

      You upset?

    • Chug that haterade

      You seem to be..

    • Shogun

      Yeah he’s upset. He doesn’t like it when the truth smacks across the face and the reality sets in his PressedPort is nothing more than glorified paperweight.

    • BBRYSUXBALLS_2.1

      That’s true, poor PastPort users had obsolete junk the day it was released.

    • BBRYSUXBALLS_2.1

      Just sunset it already.

    • Chug that haterade

      What will the likes of you and Shogun be able to comment about if they do?

    • BBRYSUXBALLS_2.1

      Is that your concern?

    • Chug that haterade

      Speaking of…

  • washingtonamerica

    bb10 can bounce back if blackberrry sells tons of android devices and has it’s mojo back. then developers will flock to bb10 the world’s best mobile os.

  • R Virgo

    I worked for this company in 2003 and then again in 2012 and harassment began to take place and as a result I’ve submitted a Better Business Bureau complaint in 2014 as well as a tribunal complaint in 2016. Some of the information submitted within the complaint is listed below:

    a woman at Vuteq where I work was shouting comments to me from a distance (name I believe was Laura) Vuteq management was notified of the incident
    approximately Dec of 2015
    Vuteq premises as I was leaving work
    my lunch has been stolen from Vuteq
    I had taken a Goodlife trainer’s course and had people join the course and harass me
    I”ve received threats
    these issues first started while I was working at BlackBerry and escalated once I was layed off

    other incidents have preceeded this
    vehicle broken into and damage done to car stereo( was rewired) in Mississauga
    police report was filed PR15-044 7061
    keys were stolen, items stolen from vehicle
    staff have been hired from places I work to harass me, one place was The Monitoring Center in Oakville an Alarm Monitoring Company
    John Chen was contacted Oct 6th 2016 via LinkedIn with no response received
    Jim Mackey was contacted Oct 8th, 2016 with no response received regarding matter
    Marty Beard – Chief Operating Officer at BlackBerry contacted Oct 12, 2016

    The following statement was sent to them

    Mike D Scott has been harassing me and my family for quite some time, you may or may not be aware of this. As a result sometime back a complaint was filed with the BBB bureau because of his actions. It appears he intends to continue with his actions forcing further complaints to be filed. As they’re submitted I will forward you a copy of them for your review. A Better Business Bureau complaint was filed July 17, 2014 case# 1302548
    On Oct 16, 2016 the following was sent to John S Chen and Jim Mackey

    A complained will be filed with the Tribunal shortly in regards to this matter. Thank you
    response received from Jim Mackey

    “At 11:53 AM, Jim Mackey said the following:Thank you. I do not manage this area.”

    My response

    “At 11:59 AM, Roger Virgo said the following:Okay please forward to the appropriate person and they can feel free to contact me.”
    John Chen has been contacted via LinkedIn regarding this matter with no response received