Canadian wireless industry promises to take on wireless theft by September 30th, 2013, launches “Protect Your Data”


  • Steve W

    This will go a fair way in deterring theft. The drawback will be the market overseas for stolen devices.

    • MobileTheft

      If the CRTC wants to do something about mobile Theft, they should Ban 3yr contracts, just like in the rest of the world!

      -3Yr contracts are A CRIME and illegal in the rest of the world!

    • MobileTheft

      CRTC should do something about the:
      “Coincidentally-the same price” of the new $75 ARPU-plans that were released by ROBELUS one day after another.

      If somebody robs your phone, and you have to stop paying $100 per month (Plus $10 for CID and Voicemail of course), they are not robbing you…they are doing you a favour!

    • IMEI

      This is a huge waste of money:

      Right now if you don’t have a lock (pin number gestrue, face unlock etc) ans somebody finds/steals your phone, they simply remove your SIM Card, insert theirs and away they go.

      The idea is that they will make this huge database (Guess who is going to pay for it??) of SIM CARDS and IMEI, so that every time you swap sim cards, you have to login into your accound and do an ESN-change (IMEI change in this case)
      $25 IMEI change fee comes back from the dead with ROBELUS??

      This system will slow down/complicate a system that works WELL NOW!

      Right now there are apps that can change the IMEI of the phone so you would be able to download the app change the IMEI and you will be ready to use the phone ( this would be illegal of course) so they will be spending Millions globally for something that takes 5mins to circunvent!

    • IMEI

      When you loose your phone, you loose the phone! Period!
      Main reason why I don’t buy an $800 iphone.

      What you and everybody else wants is to:
      -Not loose the data
      -Don’t let other people get into it.

      Right now there are tons of Apps that do that!
      You loose the phone, go to a computer and activate the software and as soon as the phone is online:
      1-It syncs everything with the cloud, It shouldnt be that much, only a few secs-couple of mins.
      2-It Wipes itself clean.

      People will be able to use it but who cares, you lost the phone.

      Since when the govenrments do care so much about our phones and want to “help us”??

      Why don’t they do that with cars all over the world??
      Everybody knows that cars stolen in Canada end up in other countries, why don’t they do that?

  • Me Ted

    To be followed by the “Protect your wallet from the big three oligopoly” hopefully.

    “Collusion. Don’t be its next victim.”

  • Amode

    But if i buy a phone on Kijiji, and they block me because im on the “black list” what can i do ?

    • Hub

      You can cry. I expect lot of abuses on the system. LOTS.

    • James

      Why would you blindly buy a phone without testing it? Always test it, with your SIM card, before purchase. If it’s on a different carrier, then like someone else said, buyer beware.

    • Microwave

      Caveat emptor! Verify that the phone was not stolen. Record sellers contact info/picture…

    • Miguel

      You don’t BLINDLY buy a phone. You test it everything but the guy who bouth it after he sold it to you could simply report it stolen and bam, you’re down a phone. PLus you can’t even prove that you bought it if you payed cash and for some reason don’t have the email from the guy. This could cause a lot of problems. I buy all of my phones sued because I don’t like to pay ridiculous prices for phones. On that note, my first legit phone will be the nexus 4! 🙂

    • Curtis

      Report the Seller to your local Police or RCMP as they have sold you Stolen Goods.

  • terrible

    this is so freakin pointless and a waste of money.. if someone wants to activate a sim they can without the device even being there and pop it in any stolen unlocked phone… Save our tax money CRTC and actually do something useful for once…

  • The Nexus

    “Hi there.. is this ‘Wolves R Us’ security? Oh, it is? Yes, I’d like to hire you to guard my sheep farm please”


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  • therealeddie_c

    I’d like a feature where rather than remotely wipe the data on my phone, I can also overheat and fry the device making it completely unusable. That’ll teach the perps.

  • Sean

    Amode remember buyer beware

  • Albert

    What’s wrong with that guy’s face?

    • MobileTheft

      He just found out that his $100 plan with ROBELUS doesn’t include Caller ID or VoicMail!

  • DR

    There”s enough apps on the market to trace and remotely wipe a smart phone. I think this is another method of Big brother to monitor and control the sheople.
    Just my opinion though, we are allowed 1 right? before there’re taken away.

    • gnote

      This is also another reason for the big 3 to charge more for “services” they provide.
      How about the crime of the big three stealing my money for overpriced services?

  • David

    iCrime? They’re asking for a lawsuit.

  • saltorio

    How much can we expect this “security” to cost us? The big three have proven time and time again they provide nothing for free, or for the good of the customer.

  • Rob

    Still no word on protection from the biggest thieves of all: Rogers, Telus and Bell.

  • neil

    This is again using the standard GSM EIR functionality that exists today, and has been around for 20 years. The difference is forcing the operators to turn it on and use it.

    The Central EIR Database is/can also be used from all over the world too – if an operator chooses to use this. I.e. if someone in Germany reports their phone stolen, if their German operator chooses to upload this data to the Central EIR, then this can be downloaded by the Canadian operater if they choose to do so.

    What I suspect is happening here is that someone is forcing the operators to actually spend money and use these systems that they have and use today. The equipment is probably already there, it just going to cost them money to enable/use it.

    And as far as abuse of the system goes – if you get a phone from an operator and it gets stolen, then they know about the phone and you. So they will do their usual identity verification when you call and say it was stolen, and then blacklist the phone. If someone steals your phone, don’t you WANT the thief to not be able to use the phone ?

    And if you buy a phone on Kijiji, if you don’t test it first, it’s just as possible to not power on that it is to be blacklisted – try it first, if it works, buy it, if it doesn’t work, don’t. It’s exactely this kind of channel of sales for stolen phones that is currently in place that makes it worthwhile for people to steal phones. If that channel dries up, handset theft should decrease.

  • zzZZzz

    Totally agree with Neil. For whoever said above that one can activate a SIM and pop it in any device, potentially stolen, think again. Providers can actually check the IMEI of the phone it is in and could very well see if the phone was stolen, provided it was reported stolen AND that database is enabled and used.

    Why then don’t do it right now is mind boggling. Any stolen phone that cannot be reused is another sale of a new phone which means more money. Perhaps I’m missing something here 🙂

  • dula714

    Does not cwta have anything better to do? How about lowering the prices of plans?

  • Chris

    Just have common sense. Stop being a zombike like everyone else and stop surfing on your phone while walking on the street, in a dark alley.

  • Olerius

    This is a great option, but why should it take virtually a year to implement it? If there is a system already in place (as Neil says) that would allow this style of monitoring, providers should be able to turn it on by the end of THIS year. Even without an existing framework, it should only take a few months to set up and test the program.

  • no

    to come Imei registration cost 30 dollars

  • Microwave

    Hey Mobile Theft. You can always buy the phone outright and not sign a three year contract which is in essence a subsidy or mortgage for use of the phone over that period.

  • Steven

    All these people keep saying how you should test the phones you buy off kijiji and what-not, but what if the person who lost the phone/had it stolen didn’t realize it or report it right away, is your newly purchased supposedly legally obtained phone that you tested going to stop working?

    • Curtis

      Yes Most Likely.

      Just like if you unknowingly buy a stolen car, and get caught with it, it will get impounded by the Cops, and you don’t get any compensation. You may also get charged with posession of stolen goods.

      The respectable thing to do when you discover that you have a Stolen phone is to retun it to either the Cops, or to the Carrier as they can track down the owner and return it to it’s rightful owner. When it comes to Stolen Goods, you as the buyer have exactly ZERO Rights. And that is the way is should be.

  • OGOD

    Horror movie….-___-“

  • Ivan

    Changing the IMEI is trivial on most phones. Just get an ancient Nokia phones IMEI and program it into the stolen one. Hardly decent protection.

  • Josh L

    Planet of the apes in the picture above?

  • Scazzz

    Seriously, the commentors on this site are beyond hope.

    Every article no matter what its content, is always bitching about Robellus. You guys must seriously have nothing better to do than pop into every post and paste the same s**t over and over again.

    The best part is how uninformed all of you people are, calling it illegal and all this other s**t. Its clear most of you are either minors, or have the intelligence of one.

    We get it, you like to b***h, and this is your outlet, but we heard you the first time, no one cares if Wind is better, especially if the article is about something completely unrelated.

    Anyway, onto the topic at hand. This technology has been built into the GSM standard for years, just no one uses it. When this is activated, popping your SIM into a stolen and reported device will just deny you service. Its all automated. As soon as the device trys to access the network, its IMEI, SIM, account etc are all sent to the carrier before a service connection is estiblished. This route will allow the carrier to auto-refer to a database if international IMEIs that are reported stolen, and deny service if its flagged.

    Its all automated, requires no logging in or fees normally. Its been around in the EU and Asia in various forms for years, usually left up to the individual carrier or country to conform with it.

    • SomeGuy

      So people are b!tching because no Canadian carrier including Robellus has bothered to enable the service. Now they will b!tch even more because Robellus will include another tax to fund this “service”. The only winners are the carriers.

  • Will

    Post an ad on kijij selling an old phone
    Reports phone stolen.
    No one wants to by any devices used anymore


  • boib

    Let say I don’t pay my Bell bill. What could stop Bell from putting me onto that list so that I don’t unlock my phone and switch provider?

    Let say now that I sell my phone. Bell doesn’t know I won’t pay my bill yet. I sell my phone on kijiji. The buyer test it with his SIM card. It works. One month later, it stops working because Bell blocked the IEMI. He didn’t nothing wrong, bought a phone that wasn’t stolen, and can’t use it.

    I see too much abuse with this system.