Microsoft: 2 million Windows Phone 7 devices shipped


  • Alexandre

    I think we need more phones in Canada, especially for AWS band (Mobilicity, Videotron and Wind Mobile)…!

  • halo

    shipped doesn’t mean sold

  • Canadianman20

    It would be nice just to see 1 AWS Windows Phone 7, and it will most likely launch on Mobi.

  • TheCyberKnight

    For those who want AWS phone, did you send an email to your provider asking for a WP7 phone? If not, you should spend few minutes doing so.

  • jellmoo

    Microsoft needs to establish amore aggressive marketing campaign for WP7. There just isn’t enough hype surrounding it. They need to pick a key feature or two, like XBox Live integration, and just hype the scrap out of it.

    They also need to get the carriers and manufacturers on board, treating it like a premium product. I went to a Rogers store to inquire about the Focus, and all I got was an employee trying to talk up the Captivate.

    It’s still a matter of growing pains, but they have a lot of work ahead of them if they want to be considered a top tier brand/OS.

    • zorxd

      It’s not only about branding. If they want to be in the top, they should also make top hardware.
      No WP7 device raised the bar on anything hardware-wise. The Nexus One raised the CPU bar to 1 GHz and RAM to 512MB. The iPhone 4 had the highest resolution. The Galaxy S had the best GPU. The Desire HD/Z had a 14.4 Mbps radio. Next we will have dual core phones such as the Atrix coming. In the USA they have WiMax and LTE phones.
      When you don’t bring anything new, as it is the case with every WP7 device so far, how can you expect to be treated as an high end device?
      The best WP7 devices (HD7, Focus, etc.) are barely on par, if not slower, than devices released months before by the same companies.

  • TheCyberKnight

    24,000 registered developers in about 3 months is an interesting number. Even if it represents about 1/10 the iOS developer base, it is a good start.
    The real challenge for Microsoft is to have this number increase steadily and therefore increase the application catalog.

  • Bong Sniffer

    Did they also say, that 1.5 million are still in the stock room shelves?

    Mobile Syrup needs to hire me…

  • JAWG

    Well,Mobi got the Nexus on launch and I’m assuming any Windows phone they get in the future will be a reasonably good one,so as soon as one comes out I’m going for it and it should be fine on their network…I hope that’s soon.

  • Lewis

    What the hell does “shipped” mean anyway. I imagine these were all confirmed supply from the manufacturers regardless of demand. Shipped doesn’t mean anyone likes the interface, the hardware, anything. As noted – doesn’t even mean they’ve been purchased.

  • jellmoo


    That,,, That is completely fabricated. All Windows 7 devices share a minimum spec that was ahead of the curve when the devices were announced, and at least on par on launch, and in many cases better than other devices.

    These were launch devices. Companies were taking a risk with un-established software and had to go from scratch on how to best implement firmware. Look at the Nexus One compared to the Nexus S. Precisely how much innovation in technology is there?

    For whatever faults WP7 has, tech specs are absolutely not one of them. The phones were all top of the line at launch. There were no phones strictly better than the WP7 phones at launch. The only way they fall behind is if you compare them to the phones from CES. You know, the ones that haven’t been released yet.

    • N900WindMiraclePlan

      I think zorxd meant new premium features like fastest cpu to date or the highest res screen so far. Dont’t get me wrong, Win 7 phones have good hardware but they would have had a much stronger launch if they came out with a ground breaking technical feature such as them having high quality 1024×768 resolutions.

    • TheCyberKnight

      Interesting comment Zorxd, but flawed.
      In an industry where new releases occur every 6 months, there is no way one can stay on top.
      You may have the best display for some time but still release an inferior phone when signal comes to play (iPhone anyone). Why then should it be a reference?
      Any platform can be finger pointed using the arguments you provide. Enven Android. Look at the Nexus S. It is nothing but a Focus (with inferior video capabilities).
      If the absolute phone existed, the market convergence would have already made it available on every platform.

    • zorxd

      I think you guys don’t understand. The hardware of WP7 device wasn’t even “top end” at launch. The hardware was the same as the Nexus One that released in January 2010.
      So who’s talking about “staying on top”? To stay on top you need to be on top to begin with.
      One of you was talking about the Nexus S. Well the Nexus S, while not so innovative (it’s a Galaxy S), is still better than every WP7 device out there (including the Focus). It has a real GPU (the best out there) and a last gen 45nm SoC. I has a front facing camera and 16GB of internal memory.
      You seem to think that all 1 GHz phones are the same. They aren’t. Could you remind me how WP7 minimum specs are “ahead of the curve”? They have no minimum spec on the GPU (the Adreno 200 sucks), 256MB for the RAM (even the low-end Optimus One has 512 MB), 8GB storage.
      As I said, they are barely on par with what was there before.
      Let say WP7 devices ran Android. They wouldn’t sell any.

    • Josh

      Have you USED the Optimus Quantum?

  • astudent

    I wish Microsoft would post sales though. I have a LG Optumus 7 and I love it. That being said I think I would’ve also loved iPhone and Android as well, I just ended up with the Optimus 7. I left my berry simply because it sucked, sorry. Look whatever happens, clearly competition is going to be a good thing for us consumers as companies have to strive to get our attention. With the right work and effort, they can get a good share of the market but the ball is obviously in their court and they do know that.

    The way I picked my phone was simply from functionality and practicality. I could care less about the platform and some of the specs these companies hype up, in reality they can all do the same stuff and I am only going to use 10-20 apps at most anyways. I picked a wp7 simply because of their mobile Microsoft Office (i find it handy for bringing up documents in my seminar classes) and I was a fan of the tiles over a grid of icons. Thats it, two reasons…otherwise for me all the 1 ghz phones were the same for my needs. I don’t care about having the best resolution on my screen or more ram, I don’t show off to my friends and compare who has the faster phone. People should look at what they need for themselves and stop focusing so heavily on premium specs and platforms. Important points to consider but don’t forget why you want the phone in the first place. Thats just me though 🙁

    • zorxd

      You don’t care about resolution or RAM but you care about GHz?

    • astudent

      Hi zorxd,
      The reason why 1 ghz was an important factor was that it was one of the few features that gave me the ability to compare a wide variety of phones **especially** when I was considering a wp7. Since a lot of phones have a 1 ghz processor (desire Z was on the list too but I was planning to OC to 1 ghz from 800 mhz). It was my common denominator for the phones I wanted to get. With 1 ghz, most of the time the RAM is at 512 mb, thus that was the minimum but it didn’t matter to me since I don’t think I’ll ever overuse the phone to that extent. I was picking from iPhone 4, desire Z, lg quantum, galaxy S, nexus S, lg optimus 7, and a desire/first nexus. I hope that clears my reasoning up. 🙂

    • astudent

      Sorry forgot to note earilier, I do know that 1 ghz is not the same on each platform and I am not ignoring that idea right out. However, my experience on all 3 platforms seems the same in terms of fluidity of the interface (although my friend’s desire Z apparently needed a few software tweeks lol), I never once experienced heavy lag or major glitches on each, thus 1 ghz seemed the easiest way to establish some sort of common ground among the platforms.

    • zorxd

      Well first many WP7 devices have less than 512 MB. The minimum is 256 I think.
      Second, I guess you like the WP7 OS and that’s why you chose that phone. Fine.
      But let say you could swap the hardware of your phone, with any of the followings phones but keeping your WP7 OS:
      Desire Z, Galaxy S, iPhone 4, Desire HD.
      Would you really keep your LG Optimus 7? I don’t think so, and all these phones released before your device.

    • astudent

      Hey again,
      1. Correct, 256 mb is the min, mine is 512 mb although the quantum was 256.
      2. I would actually pick the Desire Z only because of the keyboard (i love that keyboard, I wish Canada got the HTC 7 Pro but I needed a new phone at the time) but don’t forget it was released in Nov, around the same time as wp7. With the other ones you mentioned, agreed, they are released before and have higher premium specs. However, if it doesn’t matter to the individual buying it, is it really that important to consider? I understand why some people want the best and the latest, but there are that few (like me) who just wants a decent functional phone that fits my needs nicely. I have a friend who wanted an android phone, bought an old magic for $50 and installed froyo on it. Hes happy.

      I took a similar approach with my laptop purchase 2 years ago, ended up with a netbook and keeping the old desktop. A netbook at that time was a new idea, people at least were skeptical but with a netbook in class my marks shot up and it was a lot more practical to carry around than a 5 lbs laptop. I got a new laptop now and gave the netbook to my brother. Point is that sometimes the simplest hardware can make the difference, it already has twice so far.

      Again, to each its own but I am not going to get caught up with trying to get the best specs when at most times I won’t need it.

    • jellmoo


      There is a grand total of 1 WP7 that runs at 256. The LG Quantum. That hardly qualifies as most.

  • astudent

    I left my berry because it sucked, I had so many software problems and hardware issues, I just find iOS, android and wp7 to be so much easier to manage everything so I had to leave the berry.

  • kanatacrude

    I just don’t get why someone would pick WP7 with so many choices out there that are better in so many ways. To each their own I guess. Pick any crappy car and you’ll still find lots of people that bought one without really looking around much.

    • TheCyberKnight

      Better choices? In what way? I’m sorry but UX wise, WP7 is currently defining the reference.
      Then what? Why would Android or iOS be better to fullfil the consumer need (I’m not talking about geeks here)?
      The overall experience with WP7 is extremely well designed to fullfil the daily use scenarios. Furthermore, it does it in a very integrated a efficient way.

  • Tangodelamuerte

    I tried all OS and I can tell you guys that WP7 is the one that has the most potential than the rest. I was skeptical at first but I got to admit that WP7 is awesome. According to Microsoft and Adobe ,WP7 will soon get Flash unlike IDevices. WP7 is very smooth, fast and fluid. Apps are way more nice to use than similar apps on Android. And unlike Android when Microsoft will release an update every phones will get it at the same time.

  • RudeBoyyee

    it is funny it says shipped when i know for a fact that Telus recalled almost all of their stock of the wp7 devices because they weren’t selling…

    like s**t they had to include a 360 with purchase and they still hardly sold….

    it may sound stupid but i believe the wp7 is almost too simple and that’s saying a lot!

    • Alexandre

      I think the problem comes from Microsoft…

      Bad marketing and bad selection of phones, that’s why they didn’t sell WP7 in Canada.

      I’m curious to if it’s different in USA.

    • TheCyberKnight

      I do agree that for the rumored 500M that was invested for the campain, it was poor.
      For the phones, the HTC I had the chance to play with. The Optimus is also very good. Those 2 are the only one worth talking about in Canada.
      The only other ones that would have been nice to have here are the Dell Venue Pro and the Samsung Omnia 7.
      Most HTC are a disaster. The HD7 being the worst (the screen is the absolute worst I have used recently).

    • TheCyberKnight

      The post above should read:

      For the phones, the HTC Surround is a bad joke. The Samsung Focus is simply one of the best phone I had the chance to play with. The Optimus 7 is also very good. Those 2 (Focus & Optimus) are the only one worth talking about in Canada.

  • Eric

    WP&’s base OS kernel and drivers and low level layer are simply WinCE (a variation that is beyond 6.x, but probably not the final release of WinCE 7.0). The move to the WinCE 7.0 kernel is why there have been restrictions, as there are changes in drivers and base functionality that is new to even veteran WinCE developers and hardware MFRs.

    WinCE is not bad, it is far lighter than iOS and Android’s Linux kernel models. It also has a more efficient and powerful driver model when used in the moble context.

    This is why the QSD8250 Snapdragon GPU with WP7 is showing performance 5-10x over what Qualcomm was getting when using a generic Linux or Android driver set. Go pull the numbers.

    WP7 with the WinCE drivers for Snapdragon is pushing graphical numbers far above the iPhone4 and in the range as the fastest mobile GPUs. This speed comes from WinCE, its driver model and mobile DirectX (XNA) when contrasted to the previous numbers that were based on Linux and OpenGL ES from the Android.

    WinCE is a good thing here, as it was designed for low powered mobile devices and has been being optimized for them for over 10 years. WinCE used to run on 133mhz devices with minimal GPU features. So a 1ghz device with GPU capabilities in the DX9 range provides a massive amount of power for WinCE.

    iOS and Android’s base kernels and hardware driver models are not light nor optimized for mobile devices when compared to WinCE that took ideas from NT and was completely designed specifically for efficiency on low powered mobile devices.

    However, there are WinCE libraries that are missing from the build on WP7, as they are no longer needed, so just expecting the device to expose or even have the base WinCE application and UI API sets is not a correct assumption.

    What is an OS?

    Well you can go generic terms of base input output or kernel terms. However, these are old ideas of what an OS is in today’s modern world. If you go by either of these definitions then Windows7 is not a new OS, as the base kernel and layers are essentially the same as NT 3.1. OS X is not also not a new OS, as it is just NeXt/XNU. (Even though both are NEW OSes with regard to the upper layers and OS application platform.)

    What makes the OS ‘new’ is…
    1) Changes to the kernel and integration of new technologies, which WP7 qualifies
    2) Changes in the upper layers of application functionality, again, WP7 qualifies.
    3) A whole new Application/OS platform running on the base kernel, WP7 qualifies.

    WP7 is a new OS, as the application and upper layers of the OS are all .NET based with a full Silverlight OS platform for applications. (In addition to a new optimized XNA framework.)

    This means that sure WP7 is using WinCE as the kernel, but the way applications are developed is entirely NEW. Making the application and upper OS platform sometime completely new, not even a revision.

    So is WP7 is a new OS, Yes. Is WP7 created entirely from scratch, no.

    Why is the new ‘Silverlight’ and OS platform stuff important?

    The whole WPF concepts introduced in Vista is a new conceptual programming model, that Silverlight also follows. This is the next jump in programming from how applications are put together to the extensive objecit oriented nature of the OS and Applications.

    WP7 is not only a massive OS platform change, but a new concept for an OS platform.

    It expands richness to levels many developers are still figuring out is there and ‘automated’ and also is moving developers down a smarter development path. This is where a true object ‘oriented’ OS platform, and object ‘oriented’ application model becomes real and offers the development world a glimpse of what is to come and the power this creates for applications to have this kind of relationship with the OS and OS platform.

    This seems like a small difference to some, but when controls and objects are no longer broken and even generic constructs created can be based on OS models that are no longer just ‘object based’ it allows a powerful and adaptive model so that changes in OS functionality gets propagated to the application and back to the OS as well. It should be the end of dumb or ‘unlinked’ objects, which is what JAVA on Android and Cocoa/ObjectiveC give you on iPhone.

    WP7 is not perfect, nor is the new .NET/Silverlight platform fully polished or matured, but it is already out the door with features Android and iOS were missing and because of how it is designed, has features that are still missing in Android and iOS and won’t ever be available on Android or iOS unless their applicaition platform is completely redesigned.

    (Heck, just the inherent GPU acceleration features, based on the ‘objected oriented’ nature of WP7 give applications a lot of speed that simply is not yet available on Android, and has limited support on iOS.)

    To be serious, to dismiss what WP7 is lacking some understanding and it would be just as silly for someone to have written about OS X when it was released in the same context people have about WP7. (i.e. OS X old XNU kernel, old display PDF, old NeXT application framework)

    • TheCyberKnight

      Nice disertation here but is goes a bit too far.
      The WP7 underlying kernel is in no way linked as smoothly to the “managed” upper layer as you seem to imply. Below the Silverlight “managed” layer is an unfortunate P/Invoke style invocation of native C style API. This won’t change anytime soon since WinCE is nowhere near the “managed kernel” nirvana.
      Meanwhile, I do agree that most people ignore how modern and potent is the WinCE kernel (that never stopped to evolve).

  • jellmoo


    Again, that is simply not true. Please make a list of devices available at WP7 launch that were simply “better” than the WP7 devices. You will find some minor differences, advantages in some corners, disadvantages in others, but handsets that are flat out superior? No, you won’t.

    Hell, the Galaxy S pretty much *is* the Focus. And even then the Focus has the flash that the Galaxy S does not.

    And again, remember these are 1st gen devices. Which OS launch has featured devices that have specs that blow away the competition? Apple didn’t, Android didn’t, WebOS didn’t, and MeeGo isn’t lined up to do so either. First gen devices have to be engineered to work on existing hardware before anything else. The fact that the WP7 devices were on par with other handsets already on the market is actually fairly impressive.

  • Stuntman

    It’s interesting that the picture for this article isn’t the traditional one with the square blocks. Instead, a picture of HTC Sense is used instead.

  • rulerxy

    WP7 owns you.