Samsung Galaxy Note 8 camera: Blurring the line

Note 8

Samsung’s attempted redemption for its Note line is, in part, reliant on the Note 8’s camera performance. Having proven it can produce a superb shooter among the top of its class in the industry, this phone will have people firing away.

I don’t say that lightly. For a company that has been reeling back its software excesses for years now, Samsung’s propensity for gimmicky features had long been a hallmark of its camera settings. For perhaps the first time, one of the company’s flagships actually feels leaner — at least as it pertains to the camera.

Adding a second lens in the rear provides a physical dimension to a feature that was otherwise achieved through software interpolation. With really fast focusing and an excellent Pro mode, the real disappointment may be that most Note 8 users may never truly realize the camera’s full potential.

Seeing double

Note 8 Zoom

Compared to the Galaxy S8 and S8+, there is little difference on paper. The specs are the same: a 12-megapixel sensor with f/1.7 aperture lens and optical image stabilization (OIS). Only this time, the second telephoto lens also has a 12-megapixel sensor with an f/2.4 aperture lens and OIS. Its 2x optical zoom works in much the same way similar lenses do in other devices like the iPhone X, iPhone 7 Plus/8 Plus and Asus Zenfone 3 Zoom.

And like Apple, the two lenses work in tandem in a new mode called Live Focus for creating bokeh or depth of field effects. While the telephoto lens focuses on the foreground subject, the main camera captures everything else. Where the Note 8 differs from Apple is that shooters can adjust the background blur after with a quick post-processing slider. Additionally, the iPhone 7 Plus and 8 Plus have f/2.8 apertures on their zoom lenses, allowing even less light in. The iPhone X matches the Note 8 with an f/2.4 aperture for its second lens.

Note 8 Live Focus

Apple also promotes its bokeh feature with the Portrait Mode moniker, cornering what it believes is the best use for it. Except it works very well when shooting anything from a culinary dish to a pet, so long as the subject is still and lighting is optimal. There’s just no way to adjust the blur after shooting.

Live Focus has no such restriction, inferred or otherwise, making its usefulness more versatile. It requires that shooters be at least 1.2 metres from the subject to kick in. Stray too far back, and it doesn’t work because you would be out of focusing range for the telephoto lens. If the lighting is too dim, nothing happens, either. All of it is spelled out with quick messages below noting when it’s actually active.

Note 8 Live Focus

The results were impressive to my eyes, with shots that looked dynamic and artistic. When I showed people the Note 8, Live Focus was the feature that garnered the most attention.

Sharpening the focus

Note 8 Live Focus

The drawback with using this kind of imaging technique is that it’s imperfect because it’s trying to use software to make up for the limited optics involved. Small smartphone lenses can’t match the depth of field a DSLR can produce, though what’s available here is a good alternative.

Samsung’s feature works best when there is a contrast between the foreground subject and background, particularly as it relates to distance and lighting. For example, shooting a woman’s face from an angle, the telephoto lens might blur the hair falling down on the far side of her face along with the background. Other times, the transition isn’t fluid, leaving blotches or unprocessed pixels between the subject and background. Apple’s Portrait Mode doesn’t do that on the iPhone 8 Plus.

Live Focus Note 8

I would also caution against habitually moving the slider to full on every shot because subtler blur sometimes looks more natural. I imagine those with some photography acumen would ascribe to that, but that’s just my observation.

In the right conditions, of which there are many in my experience testing it, Live Focus offers a nice dramatic twist to what would otherwise be run-of-the-mill snaps.

Turning pro

Note 8 Traffic shot Pro

As good a shooter as the Note 8 is in Auto, Pro mode almost always takes things a step further. Nothing’s changed in the interface or options available. The way the Note 7 and Galaxy S8 and S8+ shot, so does the Note 8.

A huge omission here is the fact Pro mode is unavailable when shooting anything with the 2x telephoto lens. Limiting the zoom to Auto only felt constraining to me. Sure, the tighter f/2.4 aperture makes low-light shooting difficult, but Pro mode could at least help offset Auto’s indulgence to crank up the ISO and lower the shutter.

Note 8 Pro shot

In contrast, LG makes its wide-angle lens fully accessible and interchangeable for both auto and manual modes. Ditto for the Asus Zenfone 3 Zoom. I’ve asked Samsung to clarify why the 2x lens won’t work in Pro and have yet to receive an answer.

Samsung’s fast focusing applies in Pro mode as well, unless you choose to focus manually. That’s highly beneficial because it’s perceptive enough to know there’s something to hone in on. Some of the nighttime shots I got with the Note 8 are the best I’ve seen on a smartphone to date. The only catch is the use of sharpening to improve composition. Zoomed out, it looks good, but zoom in more, and the work shows.

Shooting in RAW always helps avoid that last step, providing shooters with the raw data necessary to better edit a photo. It’s not rare — most flagships offer RAW now — but when you have a great camera to start with, it makes things easier.

Bixby Vision

Bixby Vision

I see where Samsung wants to go with this, but the road seems long to get to respectability for this feature. Bixby Vision is designed to recognize four distinct things: places, text, images and shopping items. Selecting Vision from the camera menu and pointing it at anything within those four parameters is supposed to offer contextual feedback, be it information about where to buy a certain product or translating text on a sign.

It has a great premise, yet the execution isn’t up to par. I pointed at a number of products that garnered no results. Translations sometimes took two or three attempts. Landmarks were so-so, partly because not every landmark in every place is necessarily catalogued.

To get this off the ground, Samsung needs help, and without more partners on board to provide the context and content the feature needs, Bixby Vision won’t last, much less resonate.

Fire away

Graffiti Alley Note 8

A good intangible that helps illustrate a phone camera’s prowess is the confidence in which users shoot with it. Knowing you have an excellent chance of producing a good capture from a phone is one way to feel connected to the device itself.

Samsung has that effect, even if it changed next to nothing on the camera’s foundation. Going back to even the S7 and S7 Edge, the company’s flagships shoot very similarly. Adding a second lens finally enables shooters to get closer to subjects without having to physically move toward them to close the gap.

Note 8 Chateau Frontenac

Few can match the Note 8 in its camera performance, and it stands as one of the device’s defining features. It’s not necessarily the best in every metric, but it’s a good bet that whatever it shoots will turn out well.

Comments

  • thomas

    Thanks for an honest review! Not many people can review something without loads of exaggeration, bias and hyperbole.

  • Vallenrod

    If only Note had flat screen and FPR in more convenient place it would make perfect choice for me despite being much slower than latest Iphone models.

    • Domino67

      It’s a very slight curve. And don’t fall for the hoopla about speed….The Note 8 opens apps every bit as fast as other phones do.

      The FPS I think makes sense on back. Could it be placed differently perhaps, but you get used to it and i personally like a FPS on the back of the phone.

    • Vallenrod

      Well, If a phone is able to record in 4k mode than transfer speed is crucial imo. 4k As tests showed 42 sec .for Iphone and 13 minutes for the Note is a huge gap.

    • Domino67

      No that is not correct…..that was for exporting a 4k video…..the Note 8 was 3 minutes.

      Ironically you can’t watch a full 4k resolution clip on the iPhone as the display doesn’t go that high in detail.

      You’re going to be able to open every app you need at the same speed as the iPhone.

      It doesn’t take longer to open Facebook,Instagram, phone, text, camera, etc…..on the Note 8.

    • Vallenrod

      You’re right about Note”s time ,my bad . Still Iphone was 42 secs. This is why you export video so you can watch it on your TV. I ,for example ,often ,make videos from my trips and watch them on TV after return.

    • thereasoner

      It not like you won’t be able to watch your videos, the extra 2 mins aren’t going to make much of a difference really. In the time it takes for you to remove your shoes, grab a drink from the fridge and fire up your 4K home theatre system when you get home your video could be exported to your cloud/streaming service already.

      I’d be more concerned about these new iPhones “of the future” not being able to take advantage of the enhanced LTE speeds being made available now. A whole bunch of quality Android flagship phones are going to have data speeds up to 30 times faster than these new iPhones and that would be noticable on everything you do when using LTE.

    • Vallenrod

      Just to clear things up ,I’m not Apple fan and never owned one.
      Yes the speed ,unless I’m wring ,should make difference. The tested upload speed was for 2 min. clip anything longer and one should see even bigger gap.

    • Domino67

      https://www . youtube . com/watch?v=2G669OgskM0

      If you watch this video the Note 8 is loading apps as fast or faster than the Apple phone 8.

      Like I said before don’t get to caught up in the speedtests. Phonebuff’s speedtest shows 20 apps being opened in 2 rounds and that is not realistic uses.

    • Vallenrod

      I never said anything about uploading app speed or app opening.

    • Domino67

      “If only Note had flat screen and FPR in more convenient place it would make perfect choice for me despite being much slower than latest Iphone models.|”

      Your comment definitely gave one that impression.

    • Vallenrod

      Whether I’m fan/owner of IPhone should be immaterial in judging subjectively abilities of the phone.

    • John Lofwire

      my old LG G5 was as fast an iphone 7 even with a slower soc.

    • John Lofwire

      Will you see speed difference between a 500 hp car and a 1000 hp car in the city?

      The point been that even old device have almost no lag and open everything super fast.
      you wont even feel the difference between both device in speed.

    • Vallenrod

      What does that have anything to do with video file upload?

  • neil reilly

    I can’t believe that when talking about dual cameras not once was the huawei p10 plus mentioned. I love the camera on the p10 plus and the detail is amazing along with the post processing of the photos. I’m curious to try the Note out and compare it with the p10 plus in the manual mode.

    • h2oflyer

      Unbelievable, isn’t it. Apple and Samsung suddenly discover dual cameras and it’s a breakthrough. I love the P10+ camera and mostly shoot in auto, but I love the monochrome camera.