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Apple: iOS was already years ahead but with iOS 5 “it moves it even further ahead”
iOS 5 was unveiled today and it did come with a bunch of great additions: iMessage will take on BBM, editing your photos from your iPhone, notifications, Newsstand, wireless syncing and updates, reminders plus a deeper integration with Twitter. The promo video for iOS has been uploaded to the Apple site and Greg Joswiak, VP of iPod iPhone and iOS Marketing, proudly stated that “… we invented a whole new category. The foundation of what made these products so successful is iOS. And with iOS 5 we’ve taken an operating system that was already years ahead and we’ve added over 200 new features to it moves it even further ahead”.
It’s a statement that a bit out there because iMessage basically copied BlackBerry Messenger (BBM) and the new notification feature is similar to how the Android notification system works (touch the top of the screen and scroll down). But, we’ve gotta admit the Twitter integration is cool and so are the new camera features.
Check it out here at Apple
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Ahead of what? Windows Mobile 5.0? PalmOS? Windows CE? Common now that’s a garbage statement.
It’s a heated battle right now and as a consumer I’m enjoying the ride.
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Blackberry iMessage…
Android Notifications…
Where are WP7 live tiles?
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Android users, say it with me now: LOL Suuuuure. You keep telling yourself that, Apple.
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Twitter integration? You mean the Contacts integration that the official Android Twitter app does? With the notificaitions? HOW REVOLUTIONNARY.
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I was completely unimpressed with this update.
Widgets anyone?
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I’m sitting here with a BB torch with Blackberry Messenger and Twitter Integration.
I get a notification when something for twitter comes in. It identifies it as a twitter notification.
In Windows Mobile 6.5, there was a Twitter panel (probably added by a vendor).
Android has the drop-down notifications.
Interesting comments made by Apple. Should be cool to see where the chips fall.
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Not a fan of BBM myself because of being limited to communicating with only other BB users. Unfortunately iMessage has the same limitation. IMO kik is the way to go as it’s multi platform.
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As an Android user and lover I have to say that Blackberry and Apple kicks our butt when it comes to push notifications. I’m not sure how much it’s changed in 2.3 since google updates take forever to reach all the different phones and providers, but games and such with push technology tends to be haphazard.
That said, I’m still not sure where Jobs gets the idea of revolutionary from.
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Pleased to say that Google’s notifications seem to be getting better. My internal (ie. Gmail and other related services) notifications are always instand, often getting an email or GTalk message on my phone before my computer. My push email from other POP providers seems to work well too. And that’s only running 2.2, not even 2.3.
As for Jobs saying he’s being revolutionary…this is Steve Jobs. He can say these things and people will believe him.
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It’s revolutionary to the iPhone, not to mobile in general. With that said, Apple zealots will start conversations with “Hey! Guess what Apple just invented!”.
Prepare for the historical rewriting…
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Really? You’re the first person I have heard say that android push notification system (C2DM) isn’t as good as competitors solutions. Push messages in Android can include much more information than iOS notifications can, and can interact directly with applications. It’s a MUCH more robust system.
Games and such with push technology? I’m not sure I follow? I haven’t played any games that need push notifications.
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meh
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Literally all the major updates seem to be lifted from Blackberry, Android and Windows Phone. I’m not impressed.
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I’m just wondering what came from windows 5.0. I’ve never used it.
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Lets be honest, the features they’re including are definitely amazing for iOS… but not a damn thing here is revolutionary considering it’s being ripped from other major platforms
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Exactly, everyone will take the best ideas and implement them and improve on them. I just object to Apple suing others for the same thing they are doing. Hypocrisy anyone?
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Look guys we copied what everyone else has had for years……….. Lol give me a break tell Steve Jobs if he wants to improve his iOS he has to look no farther than cydia everything everybody wants is in there…..
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Why are they calling is iOS five when it is really iOS FAIL?
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As an Android fan boy and Google cloud services user, it feels great to see Apple’s copying Google OS and cloud services I use for years.
Maybe Google has some advance on Apple after all
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I notice none of the iSheep are jumping on us for attacking their precious god, the Almighty Jobs, and his latest golden kick in the teeth. Is it possible they know we’re right?
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We can bicker about who copied who etc etc, clearly there IS NO DENYING that apple did use many ideas from the Windows Phone 7 and Android platforms. Even webOS and BB OS now that I think about it. Apple did play catch up here but the point was to keep their consumers happy so they can still stick around with iOS. Frankly, they did that job well today. iPhone users will still begin to feel their phones are still revelavant compared to lets say wp7 and webOS in their notifications. Its not like Apple is in RIM’s shoes.
I personally think iOS is still a fantastic OS but in terms of features, not so much. Its just a simple app loader with a lot of little features to make the phone function. I am a wp7 user and out of the box the phone does a lot more than a stock iPhone before installing all the apps. However, I still would get iOS, android or wp7 over a BB anyday.
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I love how Apple comes out with something that has already has been on other platforms, renames them, and calls them an invention. Twitter integration has been on androids for a year now, iMessanger has been on Blackberry for ever, Notifications has been on every platform for ever, I can keep going but the list is too long. But of course when Steve Jobs says it, its mind blowing…
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That awkward moment when iOS 5 copies Android’s notification system, BBM and WebOs multitasking. Apple wasn’t kidding when they called 2011 the year of the copycats. (taken from a Engadget comment)
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Oh ok, so its cool when apple copies, sorry forgot this was a dictator ship…
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Haha, it’s just amazing what Jobs thinks he and that mighty company of theirs think they can get away with. I hope they get hit with a whole bunch of lawsuits lol.
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Let the lawsuits begin!!! BBM vs iMesaage!
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If iOS matches the latest and greatest Android features, I would choose iOS over Android ANY DAY. Reason? Apple sells quality that is responsive with high performance. The OHA drops the ball here. Android allows green programmers to whip out poorly performing Java programs, and the built-in tools and apps are also written in Java. Execution times are at least 10 times slower. After these two platforms are matched, feature by feature, Android can NOT keep battling poor performance with Quad Core / 8 core / 4 GB RAM / 2 Ghz CPUs / etc. etc. etc. trying to keep up. Instead, now what Android needs to do, is to make a pure C/C++ from kernel to X all the way that matches iOS in software engineering. Nuff said. I know all programmers reading this will get this.
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I’m going to have to disagree with you, I’m afraid. My experience has been exactly the opposite. Yes, there are a number of bad apps. But there are just as many bad apps (actually, millions more…) on iOS because Apple only looks at whether it meets their set parameters, not a level of quality. The beauty of the Android market is that programmers CAN release their apps to the public and get a proper response from people. In the long run, the only way to learn is to do. I’ll also point out that the iPhone 4 is still running a single-core 1GHz A4 processor, significantly less powerful than the Android Hummingbird and Tegra 2 processors that we’re seeing. It’s on par with the first generation Snapdragon. And let’s not forget there are plenty of devices with fantastic hardware. HDMI-out, expandable memory, 8MP cameras, noise cancelling mics, all stuff that Apple happily pretends doesn’t exist. And the phone itself? Garbage. iPhone 4 holds the records for the most DOAs because the phone is physically damaged out of the box. I’ll stick with Android, thanks.
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@Shawn linuxguy definitely touched on some very important points. his argument is regarding only the operating systems and really does hit the nail on the head. iOS doesn’t need to rely on overpowered hardware to achieve fluid user interaction with the device like android does because of the respective languages used for the core systems. execution times may be slower in comparison (doubt 10x slower) but android does possess many more features at the moment which does currently make me lean over to the google side of the fence. I would have to agree though, if iOS matched all of Android’s features (hardware and software-wise) I would jump ship also. if only they made iOS open-source… one can dream lol.
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@TJ I certainly see where you’re coming from with that, and believe me when I say that I would LOVE to see Android evolve even further. And it will. I just find it strange that someone might be thinking “Oh, iOS finally has notifications. I’ll switch.” They have such a long way to go if they want to catch up to Android, and Google will continue to improve upon what they have. Take a look at Android 1.5, compare to 2.3 and 3.0, and then tell me that they haven’t made massive progress since the first devices were released. If, and this is a big if, Apple manages to catch up eventually, I will acknowledge that fact. Many of us will, because it will be a great achievement. But for the moment, I stick by my decision to continue using Android.
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Obviously non-programmers are disliking my comment because they are trying to protect Android. I also own 3 Android phones and 2 Android tablets. Competition is good. Don’t turn a blind eye to what is real: iOS is more responsive than Android on similar hardware specs. It’s a fact. My point is, it’s great for us consumers when Apple steps it up. Now Android needs to step up their runtime performance for its massively loyal user base.
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Whats the point of having iMessage, when there’s BBM, Whatssap, LiveProfile…. and a shwack more apps out there that does this already?
Just so they can have iProduct users MORE closed into their ecosystem? Gosh.
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so that there is a Standard. Whats the point if everyone has a different app? Atleast now all iPhone have iMessage so people dont need to worry about downloading something new for a different friend.
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Lol so many nerd tears.
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Yes, let’s never forget that Apple invented touchscreens and OSes.
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I’m not sure if your an apple fan boy… but ur username makes you look like one.
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You realize the Android OS has been around since 2003, iOS only since 2007. Now who’s copying who?
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I dont mean to defend Apple so much but have you seen the Android Prototypes? lol
They were pumped up blackberries.
Apple thought of the idea of the iPhone and everyone followed with something similar
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What you mean is: iOS launched an hybrid between Android and blackberry!
They been playing catch up fort the past year and a half. And their market share are way behind what they should be.
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The best feature in iOS 5 is copy and paste.
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So apple takes ideas from other brands and combines them to make it look like their own but hey apple still has many buyers who don’t care about the critics
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Apple is delusional
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I love how everyone says RIM is soo far behind.. when it takes Apple almost a year to basically just just copy everyone, add some camera features, and throw in an extra option to “post to twitter” and calls it a day lol… I can’t wait for the touch screen phase to die down… am I the only one :S?
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That’s a load of crap… almost everything iOS related announced yesterday was available for years (or months) on BB, WP7, Android or WebOS. Apple is just catching up after making awful UI decisions years ago… The kicker, not available until fall.. At the rate Android and WP7 and BB are evolving, iOS will still be a late coming and competing against new OS versions of the competition.
The simple fact that they claim to be years ahead and to be jumping years ahead with this is very sad…
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IOS years ahead? Lack of multitasking, notifications and user/homescreen customizations is years ahead?
What they’re ahead in is catering to tech-illiterates that can’t program the clock on a cable box or DVD player.
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When you don’t have any new hardware to announce and you’re already starting to lag behind, just copy everyone else’s features, call it revolutionary, make it more proprietary and feed it to your sheep.
That’s the Apple way.
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Everyone is saying Apple is copying other companies. And to some extent they are but they are making sure to change it and improve it so to make it their own.
For those who are going to say then they shouldnt sue others. Take a look at the Samsung photos, they look exactly the same no difference what so ever. Now if samsung added something different to their product to make it a little different than you would have a case.
Everyone copies everyones services, the difference is weather the company takes them and makes them better or just puts it in for the sake of having it. Apple does ‘copy’ a lot of other systems and Jailbreak apps but they do more.
Also, has anyone ever looked at the Android prototypes? –> http://www.google.ca/#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=android+prototype&aq=0&aqi=g5&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=979c06cd3d3a36aa&biw=1122&bih=584.
That was before the iPhone came out. And after the iPhone we have the Androids we have today. Deal with it all companies copy the difference is weather they add their own touch to it.
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“iOS was already years ahead but with iOS 5 ”
Poor Steve, the guy just comes out from a deep coma. I hear
there’s a real shortage of comedian right now, thinking
of changing career Steve?
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