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It’s almost a given that Rogers, TELUS, Bell, SaskTel, Fido and Virgin will all be launching the new iPhone 4. Today we just received an e-mail from TELUS that stated the following: “Thought I’d share with you that TELUS today confirms it will launch iPhone 4, the thinnest smartphone in the world with the highest resolution display ever built into a phone, in Canada in the coming weeks.”
No other details were given. Earlier it was revealed that Canada will be included in the July release. Still no word on price points or contract length… but you can bet it’ll be the same price as before: $199 for 16GB model and $299 for 32GB model on a 3-year.
Who’s going to get the new iPhone? Anyone going to line-up this time?
i’ll be lined up for Bell.
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Not lined up, but I will be getting one on Virgin!
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3-Year contracts is ugly
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I’ll be lined up for no one. Pass!
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The improvements they’ve made really has piqued my interest, but I can’t justify signing a 3 year contract. And without that in Canada, I also can’t justify paying $800 for a phone!
Considering Clement’s statement today that he wants to open up Canada’s telecom industry to more foreign investment, I think it’s definitely the wrong time to be locking in ’till 2013 given what may be coming down the road in the not too distant future.
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No more contracts.
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I’ll be lined up for Bell. I’ll also be paying the full $699 + tax.
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Looking forward to it in Manitoba! (Perhaps by 2014.)
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I want one, its just if i have the money. i will not be signing a contract longer than 1 year. No point, with the way things are moving. I want to make the cell company work for me. They want my business, give me a good deal. Or i’ll walk.
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On the CUSP of LTE it’s hard to consider shooting into a 3 year. The only real appeal for the new iphone (to me) is that gamer center, but I don’t know enough about it.
Overall though, I’m hoping a new WebOS device is released within the few short months. Doubt it though.
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As long as (dumb) people sign the 3 year contracts, the big 3 will have them.
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Not on a three year! $300 and a one year and then I’d consider it.
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@Gussy: Doesn’t matter who’s working for who you can not get an iPhone on a 1 yr contract even in the US you still need to sign the max contract.
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I wonder if they take monopoly money
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I’ll be in line at either a Rogers Store or an Apple Store – I assume Apple will sell them as well, and if so, I’ll upgrade there. They’re just much nicer to deal with
Camping overnight if I need to!
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No more contracts for me…. it’s nice to get a new phone, until the dull ache of the next three years kicks in.
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I just bought a new HTC HD2 on ebay for $400… I think that I’ll stick to it rather than Apple’s gimped iPhone OS. Nice hardware, crappy software. I’m thinking, “what? you can’t bluetooth songs/pictures to another iPhone? What the *#&(*&!@” Pretty basic but essential function to me.
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I’ll def be lining up and paying for the pull price. SCREW contracts. Also I’m hoping TELUS revamps their plans. Why isn’t one of the big 3 stepping up and downright slaming down the competetion with a plan they can’t compete with? :/
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Dustin Posted: Why isn’t one of the big 3 stepping up and downright slaming down the competetion with a plan they can’t compete with? :/
Dustin,
All 3 of the large telecommunications company would love undercut one another and control the greater portion of the market. However, this would result in prices becoming greatly depreciated due to the 3 constantly competing with one another to stay in business.
- They have tendered agreements and legal contracts put into place with one another so that it is a fair and level market and all 3 of them succeed opposed to all 3 of them struggling. It’s a common practice among large corporations and companies that provide a popular service to the general retail public.
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Signing a contract is the most stupid thing to do! I would buy it right out if I want it. But I am not interested at all.
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TELUS can suck it… will WIND be offering the iPhone 4G?
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As long as 3-year contract exist, it would be unwise to get this phone. Imagine getting the original iPhone with a three year contract; you would be just finishing the contract by the time the FOURTH version came out.
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Another first for Apple. Another great product that every other tech company will try to hastily half-A55 duplicate. Sadly cell phone network providers milk everyone as bad as the cable providers. (Usually the same few ones) Don’t knock their products until you’ve tried them. Sadly, they are more pricey since Apple never experienced the loophole in reverse engineering that IBM did due to better copyright protection. Apple will eventually dominate.
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Good luck trying to be these at regular price when they first launch. Most stores will probably reserve them for NEW activations on a 3-year term.
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will not get it, simply because
1- 3 year contrcts
2- Not reall good datd plans
at minimum duplicate AT&T plan ( voice and Data……
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@Andrew:
There’s absolutely no need for bluetooth. Bluetooth is kind of outdated as far as the iphone is concerned.
It’s called email and file sharing. THOSE are essential functions.
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Ryan – It’s not iPhone 4G, and no WIND will not have it. Calling it iPhone 4G from anyone is a real idiotic move, there’s no 4G in Canada.
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What’s wrong with signing a contract if you can get the phone for cheap. So it’s dumb to sign a 3 yrs contract and get the phone for $199 and it’s a smart move to pay $699 or whatever and not sign a contract? I mean it’s not like you are switching providers every year and what’s the point of switching providers anyways? because you got screwed over billing? doesn’t matter if you are with rogers, bell, or telus, if ur unlucky ur gonna get screwed. because you don’t get good reception? if you can afford to pay $700 for a phone it’s safe to assume you’ve been using the cell phone for a long time and you would probably know which carrier you get the best reception from. because the monthly charge for big 3 is too high? come on if you can pay $700 for a phone, i’m sure extra $10 – $15 a month is not going to hurt your wallet. can’t think of anymore reason at the moment. can someone enlighten me?
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No more contracts.
Screw the subsidized phone. If I want a phone, I can pay for it myself. Just give it to me unlocked. Let me find the network/30 day plan on I want to use myself. 3 years? No way!
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I agree with Mike, I would rather pay by the month, to the best priced or best reception provider imo that I want to subscribe with. I am happy to buy my phone outright BUT want a better monthly rate than folks who get a subsidized phone. Why should I pay the same rate? Also if I buy it is MUST be unlocked why would I be forced to be encumbered to a cell provider? No wonder Clement wants greater foreign ownership…lets clean house in Canada. Hell the telcos have…Telus has outsourced its operations to India and then have the gall to talk about restricting foreign ownership!!. Same with Robbers and Bell. It s global world – through the doors open and let us out – just like the Telcos have done.
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I am interested in the phone, but I will wait for 6 months the price to buy it outright will come down significantly and I wont need to sign a rediculous 3 year contract. The phone company’s love to sucker people into impulse buys. Buyer beware.
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Hey people…BTW. Telus has changed their contract cancellation policy. It is maximum $400 (that’s with 36 month remaining) to get out of a contract. I’ll pay the 199 for the 16G iphone 4 and cancel for $400. I’ll pay 600 total on a 3 year contact while all you people pay $699. Enjoy
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@ PJ
You asked what’s wrong with signing a 3 year contract? The problem is they are TRICKING you into thinking you are getting the phone for cheap. They have successfully tricked people into thinking phones prices are subsidized. This is simply false. Those that claim so are among those tricked or are lying.
The other problem is that if you get a phone for 3 years, chances are good you WILL damage it or break it or it will get stolen, and if that happens you are STUCK with the contractual obligation and are SCREWED!
Finally, if you simply want a change of phone after a year or two (which is also likely) you are again screwed.
Any service that schemes you into a contract do so for one reason-they are afraid of losing your business to them doing you wrong.
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The problem I have with contracts is if the phone gets lost or stolen (which happened two years in with my iPhone 3G), you’re screwed. They won’t let you cancel your data plan and you can’t even get another smart phone until your phone contract is almost up. I lost my iPhone in September and I have to wait until July to get another smart phone. Luckily I didn’t have a data plan too, or I would have to pay to cancel it even though they won’t let me buy a phone to use it. Totally messed up. If nothing goes wrong, contracts are fine, you won’t be switching providers all the time. But, if something goes wrong your screwed.
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Me me me. Will say buh bye to my ancient Blackberry Curve 8330 and welcome to iPhone.
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Yeah and next we’ll be debating oil spills!
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Well, in the case of lost/stolen iPhones, that is a legitimate problem. But if you are cautious all the time like me, I would say buying unlocked iPhones are not worth the price. On one hand, you have to pay $600+ for the phone. On the other hand, you cannot find a carrier with a better voice/data plan combo that is less expensive than the Big 3. You can find a voice plan that is a lot cheaper and better, but when a data plan is added, you will see what I mean. As for iPhones, if you don’t use a lot of data streaming, then why would you want to buy it in the first place? There is one way around it, though, by using wifi hotspots. Funny thing is, usually when there is wifi, there are computers around, so you don’t need your phone to connect to internet.
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These are going to be awesome. I wish I didn’t have 2 years left on my crackberry conract (piece of garb by the way)
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Until they release an iphone with CDMA capabilities i will stick with my 3Gs i still have the full 3 yrs to pay for
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@A. Noid and Bob F
Thanks for sharing your thoughts but those points you made don’t make sense too me. don’t get me wrong i’m not trying to be rude or anything but how are they tricking me into thinking i’m getting the phone for cheap? it’s $199 vs. $699. it’s $500 cheaper no tricks involved. and if i lose/break the phone within the contract then i guess i’ll have to come up with $699 for a brand new phone so the total cost of 2 phones would be $900. on the other hand if you lose/break the phone u paid $699, you’ll have to come up with another $699 to replace that phone, it’s not like u r gonna cancel the service beacuse u lost ur phone, right? and if u want to change the phone within the contract, then u can get an unlocked phone. u r not gonna switch providers when getting a new phone unless you wanna sign a contract and get the phone for cheap.
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So would it be worth while to cancel my contract from Rogers then buy a this phone then l can choose were l wanna go…i don’t have to buy a phone threw rogers, bell, or telus. I’m sooo tierd of getting ripped off. Someone help me out, what is the best way to go about getting a phone and a plan?
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I’m thinking about getting it as well, paying full price and selling my 3GS. Might even go for the 32GB!
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What’s the big fuss over contracts? Have you ever looked into pay-as-you go? I’m not going to pay $0.15/text (incoming and outgoing!) when I can get unlimited for $10. I’ve gone through two three-year contracts with Telus without suffering a mid-contract crisis. Plus, most of the time you can change phones at the 2.5 year mark. So, indeed, I will be procuring myself an iPhone 4 when I return to Canada (and you think North America is expensive…try Germany!)
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I see all the PR trolls are out for wind, and mobilicity…
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Contract versus No Contract.
Lets use examples. There’s 2 scenarios that I want to discuss.
#1. I buy the new iPhone with a 3-year contract, I pay 299+tax = 337.87. Lets say the dataplan+voice per month costs me 80+tax = 90.40. Over 3 years plan costs 3254.40. The total cost is 3592.27
Now if I can’t get a better plan and I bought the phone outright say for 699+tax = 789.87 which costs me 452 more over 3 years.
#2. Samething as above, but I was able to find a plan that’s the same but costs 11 less.
699+tax = 789.87, 69+tax = 77.97, for 3 years (no contract, just using the cheaper service for 3 years) is 2806.92. The phones costs 789.87+2806.92 = 3596.79 which is 4.52 move over 3 years than the contract, basically the same.
Moral, you need to find a plan that is at least 11 less than a contract plan for you to just break even on the phone buying it outright. You do get more flexabilty buying it outright but you have to make sure you can obtain a much better plan than a contract plan, and don’t forget some existing customers get better than advertised plans on websites, they have special rates, business plans, etc, so buying outright requires an even larger discount on the monthly plan.
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@ PJ,
You being tricked on two levels.
The first they tell you the phones are subsidized. They are not not matter what staff are told to say. They say this so that you think they are being reasonable. They aren’t.
The second way you are being tricked is that you are signing A 3 YEAR DEAL! For god sakes Telus hasn’t even had the iphone for 3 years. LOL.
If you DON’T sign a contract or chose 1 or 2 year contracts, then you have flexibility to move. They want you to sign three years because of regular payments for an EXTRA YEAR to MAXIMIZE profit. Notice plans are getting worse and worse? That is because they want to give you less, for more!
I hate to say it this way but the ONLY reason there are still 3 year contracts is because i****s sign them. If people stopped you would see VERY quickly terms and prices come down.
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I wish you could still buy an iPhone without a data contract. I got my original 3G over the phone with Fido and they didn’t force a data plan back then. I’m in University so I would only use the data very rarely. Not worrth the money
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I actually just asked a telus agent at the mall about upgrading to an iphone, and she said i’m not eligible until after 2 years of my 3-yr contract.
I know, I guess I’m one of those “i****s” who signed a 3-year contract. but we just moved to canada last year and just from living in the US and other countries with pretty sweet phone contracts/deals, i didn’t really think twice about signing it. well, actually, we did, but it was a quick second.
we are definitely getting screwed by telus, especially when they changed the roaming rates when i just so happened to travel to the US.
MARK: do you know where this changed max of $400 cancellation fee is posted? I just checked the website and it still says $20 x remaining months. Could you post a link maybe? Thanks man..
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@ Paolo,
Sorry to hear Paola. But at least you did it by “accident”. There are some here that thinks it is a good deal.
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No More.
After signing up with rogers for three years and paying almost $100 per month…I’ve had enough of this bullsh*t
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Paolo
I talked to telus on friday (june 3rd) and this was one of the recent changes to their contracts. I purchased the 3Gs on friday and returned it on monday (anticipating the iphone 4). They went through the terms of the new contract, and the $400 cancellation was one of the new changes. If you are not sure, give Telus a call.
cheers
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I really hope they don’t make us wait until the end of July to get the new iPhone. Does anyone know if Telus will be taking preorders?
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Regarding the $400, I believe yes, it is one of the changes in Telus policies.
I’m suck with Telus and I believe that though they are good in their line but being locked in is one of the disadvantages.
Do you have any idea about the GREAT offer between Rodgers, Bell & Telus?
I’ve just spoken to Telus Customer Service and they are not sure if the device will be by July!
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I personally never had a problem with 3yr plan from Telus. There are people here counting monthly as 80+ tax? well, I got my Motorola Droid on 3yr term, called telus, made a deal, and now I have 50 dollar dataplan with free text and free caller id. that is, 149+tax for phone + 50+tax per month for 3 yrs. (actually, not even 3 yrs since u can change ur plan and phone after 2 yrs and 6 months). Now, go buy an unlocked phone urself with’DATAPLAN’, it cannot come cheaper than what big3 offers.
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Also,
considering phones lost… well that is your fault for not keeping it safe or being sloppy. Why bother taking those intangibles into account? People losing phones are ‘i****s’, not the people getting 3 yr plans.
For 3 yr being too long and wanting to get a new phone since this market is rapidly changing, yes I agree. But, they let you change after 2 yrs and 6 months, and when you buy the newest release for 3 yr plan, chances are you will be behind in tech, but reasonably. I don’t think buying unlocked phone is worth all the fuss. It was when data plan wasnt needed, but what provider can offer better than big3? finding cheap dataplan is not as easy as you think.
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i’m with telus and i got a 3 yr contract. all i got was a crappy plane jane cell phone and it is costing me 75 bucks a month.
now that i have had the 3 yr contract with telus for 2 years now i can change my phone to a iphone4 well not till august7
i was talking to telus and they have this offer where if i buy a iphone4 they will take 300 bucks off the retail price or 150 off on another phone.
also for the iphone4 data plan with telus for 50 bucks a month (i’m paying 75 now with my crappy phone)
i get -up to 100 Local Anytime Minutes
-BONUS Local Anytime Minutes† Up to 100
-Nationwide Family Calling Unlimited 1
-Unlimited local calling 1 month (month to month, 1 or 2 year term)6
Limited time offer: 6 months (3 year term)8 (so i would get the free 6 months)
-Unlimited outgoing and incoming text messages2
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Double anytime minutes†
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Unlimited NATIONWIDE talk and text messaging2 with your 5 Favourite Numbers3
-Local Night and Weekend Minutes Included 9PM (month to month, 1 or 2 year term)
Early Nights and Weekends starting at 6PM (3 year term)9
-Data Included4 (in Canada) 500 MB**
-Included Calling Features Voice Mail 3, Call Waiting and Conference Calling
-Extras Included PERKS™ and FREE local calling on your birthday
so i would get all that for just 50 bucks a month
or if i wanted more data for 65 bucks a month i could get 1GB
i think you would have to be nuts not to go with telus
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Hey guys…lets not forget that it’s APPLE who sets the cost for this phone NOT the cellular provider. I have absolutly no problem signing a 3 year commitment with TELUS because I can change my plan whenever I want! I’ve been with these guys since they were ClearNET. $200 for a $700 Phone is a pretty sweet deal! And as far as the competition coming from overseas…yeah it’s great if you want to pay full price for your phone. Stop bitching…it’s an exchange of commited service so that you don’t have to dish out hundreds and hundreds of dollars just to get a phone…That’s the way it is here….that’s the way it is in the US…if you want it differently…MOVE to Europe!
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I am going to be getting an iPhone 4 without a data plan. Because of my circumstances, I almost always have access to WiFi, so this is not my question. The question is, I cannot decide whether to pay $699 (or perhaps $649 due to the $549 price-tag on the 3GS) and buy the phone from Apple, or pay $499 and get the phone with a 3-year voice only contract. I realize the price difference is small, but are there any benefits I’m missing from having a no-contract, unlocked phone? I’ve seen people mention that without a contract, it’s possible to find a cheaper plan, but an anyone tell me how? I have been a Fido customer for over 6 years so does anyone think that’s long enough to get some sort of a deal with them? Thanks.
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@ ted, yeah its long enough to get a deal. I’m surprised fido isn’t su*k*ng ur… I was with them for one year, and i called to tell them i was switching to rogers. They offered me the following… 500 mb data, 200 min anytime, evening @ 5 pm, caller id, voicemail etc.. free evenings and weekends, 2500 text / month. for $35 + tax.
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oh not to mention its free to switch from fido to rogers one in your life free of charge tell them u know that
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Here is an interesting situation. My Iphone 16gb 3GS got stolen on July 19th I went and reported and did all the bullsh*t. I go to Tom Harris Cellular and the CSR lady there calls Telus Mobility and basically explains the situation. Telus are a bunch of pricks and say sorry but because your contract was only 9 months in on your 3 year, we can’t offer you a discount on a replacement phone. So I am like well f**k I want the exact phone before since all my contacts are all backed up on my computer, so she prices the phone at $699 and puts me on a month to month since I cant go on a plan at this point. After taxes it came to $830. Well I go on Telus Mobility’s site today and find out that the new Iphone 4 16gb is $50 less than what I paid for my 3GS on a month to month. So I am calling telus being like I want an exchange for the Iphone 4 because you guys just milked me for a lesser quality phone or I am threatening to go to Rogers since I am no longer on a 3 year term with these assholes.
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