Sony Xperia XZ Premium’s fingerprint sensor will be disabled in Canada

No side-mounted fingerprint sensor for you

Comments

  • Suresh Aryal

    So cheap manufacturers like Blu have fingerprint sensor in Canada and Sony doesn’t? What kind of business decision is it? Further, North America is not even their biggest market.

    • Walter

      There is actually a reason why Sony disabled the fingerprint reader. I think its because they are cheap.

    • John Lofwire

      The type of sensor used have patent to be paid.
      They are moving the sensor on future product if what i read is right.

  • Mark

    Hi Rose, Did Sony confirm if they were also launching the smaller 5.2″ XZs in Canada?

  • Frédéric Gagnon

    it sad that they remove the fingerprint sensor 🙁
    I have one XZ and it’s pretty useful with that sensor 🙂

    • tazcubed

      The sensor is there by my understanding – just software functionality disabled.

  • JoMore

    Aren’t royalties paid on products that have actually been sold? So omitting a key feature that almost every competitor has, will deter a number of people who would potentially buy Sony, and thus negating the royalty anyway so….. All in all, dumb move Sony

  • skrug

    “While that’s a vague explanation, most have surmised that Sony disables the fingerprint sensor because the U.S. and Canada are such small markets — Sony doesn’t even sell through carriers in the U.S. — that it doesn’t make business sense to pay royalties on the underlying fingerprint sensing technology.”

    That logic doesn’t make sense considering that the Z5 and X Performance had the fingerprint sensor enabled in Canada.

    If it is indeed disabled, one can easily flash an international firmware to re-enable it.

  • Anonymous Agent

    It’s ok with me, cause I don’t like sony phones anyway. There’s better alternatives out there for my money.

  • bigshynepo

    HP owns the US patent to the type of fingerprint sensor Sony uses in their phones.
    Why do reporters fail to comment on this?

    They disable it so they are in compliance for the US market. This is also the reason Sony is rumored to be changing the location of their fingerprint sensors on their upcoming phones (G83XX and G8441 model numbers).

    • Andrew Holt

      Licensing the patent would be a solution.

    • John Lofwire

      licensing the patent would end with the phone price increasing.

    • Andrew Holt

      not substantially. The average smartphone patent license is less than $10/device. And they would probably sell far more devices with this feature and make more profit overall, they could almost even absorb the extract cost and come out ahead of what they would without the feature.

    • John Lofwire

      IF its was a normal fingerprint scanner yes.

      Sadly for this one the patent fee is higher probably.

      Probably why they are going for a different type of placement in the future to evade too high royalty fee.

      You know not only apple can cry about high patent fee…

    • Andrew Holt

      Besides, I think the main issue with the fingerprint sensor being disabled is actually a contractual issue Sony has with Verizon, and not really about the patent. The Nexbit Robin also uses this same fingerprint sensor, and they are much smaller of a company than Sony, so the cost of the patent can’t be that much of a deterent.

    • John Lofwire

      Thats do make sense and would explain why they want to change the placement on future model.

    • Jeremy PHAN

      Has nothing to do with the un-applicable patent, which only applies to laptops. (Seriously… people need to stop parroting this and actually read patent #20120019356.)

      Nextbit Robin and the upcoming Red Hydrogen phone have power-button embedded fingerprint sensors. While I could see Red licensing it, there’s no way a Kickstarter has that kind of $ to pay off the likes of HP.

    • Andrew Holt

      if you read my futher comments down the line, I alluded to this and even mentioned the Nexbit Robin.

    • Jeremy PHAN

      Because it’s incorrect. Patent #20120019356 ONLY applies to laptops. Read it.

      If it was indeed a patent issue, companies would need to license it. If you think a Kickstarter (Nextbit Robin has that kind of $, you’re sorely mistaken.)

    • bigshynepo

      I don’t see anywhere in the patent (admittedly, I skimmed thru) that expressly says this patent is exclusive to laptops. Since you know it so well, and are willing to call everyone else out on it, can you quote the line that says it’s only for laptops so we can put this to bed?

      I think you are over-simplifying the issue and I am sure it does in fact have to do with the HP patent, but correct me if I’m wrong. If only we had someone familiar with the situation in the thread to tell us? Sony sure doesn’t want to tell. Anyways, the issue should be put to bed by the next gen of phones Sony rolls out.

  • h2oflyer

    Non of this makes sense. The Canadian Z5 had a fingerprint sensor and the US version didn’t. The Amazon XZ Premium is probably coming from a US purchase agreement.

  • Bill___A

    I expect that this will turn out to be a foolish decision on Sony’s part.

    • h2oflyer

      They have made great phones, but just about all of their marketing decisions have been foolish.

  • Oh why did they had to make the Z3v and the Z4v? I’m not a Sony fan but competition is always good, especially at the highest price segment. And a flagship without Fingerprint scanner or any reliable alternative biometric authentication system is simply uncompetitive. The Moto G5 has it. The A5 has it. And many cheaper devices have it too. If the fingerprint scanner really is disabled, then they’ve shot themselves in the foot.

  • villain

    Sony being Sony. I don’t know how Sony doesn’t understand why they don’t have any success in the mobile world besides selling camera components to others who know what they are doing.

  • Ipse

    Look at the bright side : you can be compelled to use the fingerprint to unlock the phone during questioning, but you can’t be forced to give away your password. Oh wait, that’s US only, Canadians can be squeezed harder (TvAddons case) 🙂

  • Raj Singh

    Lame. No one should buy it.

    • Smanny

      It’s really easy to enable it again. Just do a web search.

    • Raj Singh

      I know you can enable it through software but it’s absurd that you’d have to do that after spending that much money on it.

  • korbindallis

    I have the Xperia XZ in Canada, which was never sold here with the fingerprint sensor enabled as I got it from UK, sorry Canada

  • Smanny

    It’s real easy to reenable the finger print sensor again. Just Google it.

  • Stephen B Morris

    Oh what the hell, Sony!!! Why must there always be compromises every time I start shopping for a new phone?!!