CRTC rules broadband internet is a basic service, launches $750 million fund

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  • Bob Loblaw

    CRTC = Corrupt Retards of TeleCommunications

    • 2dfx

      Can’t Regulate Telecom Correctly

    • Bob Loblaw

      Classic mobile syrup, censoring my comments.

    • Walter

      Like the contributor on CBC said, the CRTC needs to be disbanded and replaced with a specific Minister of Telecommunications.

  • Alex

    despite there is government funding for this project, i bet ISP’s will charge people much higher fees, due to government mandated expansions.
    50/10 speeds? that’ll just cost you $100 for 40GB limit.

    • Chad Zinger

      I’m not sure what provider you’re with but I have Telus and I’ve got 150/150 for $80 a month with a 600gb limit.

    • Tyrannosaur3464

      Should be 1TB, give them a call.

    • Chad Zinger

      It is 1tb. You’re right. I was thinking about my old 150 down plan with them.

    • will

      Mine is unlimited. Same 150/150

    • JoMore

      Where are you getting these numbers from? Rogers 100 and Bell 50 are currently $65 for unlimited plans…

  • Can’t Fix Stupid

    I would agree that in rural areas where they have to rely on Satellite based internet…it’s a poor option. If they were to even get 5 Mbps download that was consistent that would go a long way to improving things. 50 Mbps may be future oriented but 5 Mbps would may a world of difference.

    A decent near term solution would be that they offer at least a reasonably priced and modest bandwidth on the cell networks. Say $70 for 100gb/month at 5-10 Mbps. But the Big 3 are holding data a ransom. I did hear in Alberta an offer of something like that from Telus to some rural areas or something like that.

  • northstar17

    Given Google had to hault its Fiber plans, and is apparently looking at a wireless soultion, we should too.

    • Tyrannosaur3464

      The final solution.
      Also, it’s halt.

  • Bob Loblaw

    Nothing new here. Just the typical, meaningless babble from CRTC. Call me when they actually take action and hold Robellus accountable for their criminal acts.

    • Tyrannosaur3464

      Capitalism is now criminal in a capitalist country? Who would’ve known..

    • Do Do

      No but collusion is. Collusion is anti-capitalism behavior. Fortunately for the big 3, the CRTC has ignored this over and over.

    • Walter

      Except that we are a Socialist nation. But I understand where your going.

    • We are not a socialist nation, we have some aspects of socialism, but we are a capitalist country.

    • Can’t Fix Stupid

      Look at Rogers comment which is pretty much “we already offer all that (where we offer internet)”. So basically all good, bye. They don’t offer any rural broadband services. So if the CRTC had teeth they would make it where they offer cellular data that they need to offer rural home broadband over cellular. If not, then there will be no change.

      These companies have been gifted a 3 way monopoly so there should be some payback to Cdns for gifting them that monopoly. It’s not socialism, it’s not capitalism, it’s fairness.

  • Ipse

    Let me just say this again : the Australian government pledged 28 Bn$ for broadband development and expansion. MORE territory to cover, lower rates, less population…etc.

    • Anthony

      Canada is actually larger than Australia. Just sayin’. haha

    • Ipse

      You do realize that the inhabited portion of Canada is just less than 300km from the US border, right? While Australian population is spread over a lot more land.
      În both cases we exclude < 50k outliers.

    • Adderbox76

      Just because your concept of “Canada” doesn’t include the native reservations in the north of the provinces nor the Yukon, Iqualuit, or NW Territories; it doesn’t mean those people stop existing.

      If the CRTC mandates HS as a basic service, than it’s for EVERYONE, not just the white folks in the cities along the border.

    • Ipse

      Selective reading, eh? I said we exclude the outliers…plus the whole point of my comment (which was totally lost here) is the sharp difference between the 2 government spending.
      You can go back and forth counting isolated communities, this will not stop aussies spending 30x more.
      So spare me the lecture and the pro-liberal propaganda.

    • Adderbox76

      Selective reading? Dude, nowhere in this thread did you EVER mention “excluding outliers”. Those words are LITERALLY not in there. You can’t retroactively add words, and then pretend the other person is at fault for not reading them. But hey, that’s some pro-level back-tracking there, bud.
      Near as I can figure, you must think that because you mentioned “outliers” in a different article or a different thread that it somehow counts towards mentioning it in a different article in a different day. I don’t know. But in the two statements here, the one I replied to and the one above that, the words “excluding outliers” don’t exist. So spare me your “reading comprehension” garbage.

    • dannyR

      Pledges, right…

  • dannyR

    I live on an island, and all the ISP can afford for the foreseeable future is faster microwave. Laying down trenched fibre for 50 Mbits/sec isn’t likely to happen.

    But, let’s be honest; does the CRTC really think 1440p HD movies at home are some kind of necessity of life? Because that’s really all that speed services. I’ve learned to be content with (scrounging) free streaming movies at as low as 144p.

    • Walter

      My only real issue is that the Mbps down and 10 Mbps up are blanket numbers. That would be great in major urban areas but that isn’t realistic for areas like Northern Ontario or the Arctic. There should have been some sort of graduating scale determined by remoteness with it bottoming out at 5 Mbps down and 1 Mbps up.

  • Rossww

    I’m with Xplornet (LTE). I’m on a 10MB package with 300GB /mo.

    During peak hours, 12pm – 12am, I usually average less rhan 0.5 MB/sec. To be more specific, 0.33 is a common speed.
    HELLO CRTC???????

    • heynow00

      Internet speed is measured in megabits. You have a 10 megabit connection which would max out at about 1.1 megabyte per second download speed.

    • Rossww

      Yeah, sorry. It was late when I stumbled on this forum.

      In layman’s terms, the speed was better (compared to the previosly mentioned peak times ) than when I was on dialup with my 14.4 modem!

    • Can’t Fix Stupid

      I’m on Xplornet Fixed Wireless LTE with a good view of the tower and i average between 3-10 Mbps. So I consider myself lucky. I was getting problems initially because of a bad network cable but since then it’s been pretty consistent. The people really up the creek are the ones with no line of sight and have to use the satellite version.

      They do throttle p2p hard during peak hours which isn’t an issue for me as I don’t use that. I just want reasonably fast and consistent service during peak hours. I’m guessing by the numbers you put up those are your throttled p2p speeds?

    • Stephen K

      This ruling will destroy Xplornet. They are not up to the task.

    • Rossww

      I wonder if CRTC’s ruling includes upgrades to satellite Internet?
      They’ll never fix the latency issues with satellite!

  • Ricky Bobby

    As much as this looks like a victory, this is looking like Rogers, Bell and Telus jacking up the internet pricing. As if last years “low canadian dollar” was an excuse for them to raise rates, record profits later another reason to raise prices

    • Can’t Fix Stupid

      Telus as far is I now is the ONLY one doing a dang thing about it with a Smarthub with 250gb for $70 to rural AB/SK. Nothing from Bell or Rogers. They should be fined $1 mln a day until they offer something similar or we as Cdns allows a 4th competitor with some gifted bandwidth that we as Cdns own.

    • justmoe

      not quite that simple but i agree. but telus fall short in other locations. no carrier is perfect in canada. in fact they are all guilty of price sharing which is highly illegal in Canada.

  • Lirodon

    Yeah, $750 million which will actually be paid for out of consumer pockets via further price gouging. No ISP will ever offer 50 mbps at a reasonable price. Regardless.

  • will

    They should set mobile data as basic service too….

    • somebody else

      Sadly they won’t do that.

  • MoYeung

    “Since all major Canadian telecoms are required to contribute to the CRTC’s new fund, it’s possible that much of the $750 million could be passed on to consumers in the form of increased subscription fees.”

    Consumers pay up… Boo!

  • Unorthodox

    “50 megabits per second (Mbps) download and 10/mbps upload” Poor Sympatico bastards finally have to invest in infrastructure upgrade. 25Mbps is the max Bell’s speed in my area. That’s why I’m not with them anymore.

  • Not for you

    Heh, lot of whining about ISP’s using this as an excuse to increase prices. While this is likely, I wonder if the whiners would still be doing so if *they* were the ones stuck with low speeds, or no options.

  • gommer strike

    So by this I understand that basic broadband access to all Canadians is now a basic right, such as access to food, water, shelter, respect.

    By broadband I understand this to mean, to every household. Mobile data however is something different.

    • SV650

      Not a right; the basic level of service is to include broadband, just as voice service was the previous base level. EVERY Canadian did not have access to telephone, as some were beyond the reach of the telephone lines, and some deemed service too expensive to have installed.

  • justmoe

    if they want to fix something it should be price gouging and price sharing. right now telus and bell are pushing out its fibre network. what nobody realizes is its way too expensive. when i was in vancouver i paid half what telus is charging for 3 times the speed. the whole point of fibre is its less expensive but naturally telus has to steal from their customers probably to pay for the billions they lost going to their current cellular network from cdma.

    screw them all. i get my internet from third party carriers who lease from shaw and telus and i pay half and its unlimited.

    • robinottawa

      Its about rural areas too though.

  • robinottawa

    Like everything else in Canada, cities subsidise rural. It’s a fact of life. Don’t let the who-pays question divide us politically. It could be you who gets to live in the country and run your business from there.

  • Bensento

    Just living 20 KM out of the nearest town I can’t get a major ISP to offer me internet service because I’m to far out. so I’m stuck with *up to* 25mb/s download and *up to* 1mb/s upload speeds which when tested are closer to 10 mb/s download and 0.25 mb/s upload for my data cap of 25 gigs, then speeds are throttled after that, sadly there are no options for me other wise unless I’m looking to spend 200$ per month instead of the 70$ i already spend, so hopefully this will end up helping people like me as well.

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