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BBM to come preloaded on LG Android smartphones

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BlackBerry has announced today that they’ve struck a deal with LG to preload BBM on some upcoming Android smartphones. The first device that will feature the messaging app is the LG G Pro Lite, which is sold “in markets around the world.” No word on LG Canada adopting this strategy; it seems to be more directed to emerging markets.

Andrew Bocking, Executive Vice President for BBM at BlackBerry, said, “People across the globe are using BBM to connect with each other and the enthusiasm has been phenomenal. We’re extremely pleased that LG Electronics will help bring their customers a more seamless experience with BBM by preloading the app, starting with the G Pro Lite in key markets.”

According to the latest stats on Google Play, BBM has over 10 million downloads and has over 80 million users worldwide. The app itself is available to those who have OS 4.0 or higher and brings the ability to send quick messages (individual or group), plus share pictures, calendar events and files. Future upgrades for both BBM for Android and iOS will bring BBM Channels, BBM Voice and Video calling.

Update: As expected, no future rollout of BBM coming pre-loaded on LG Android phones in Canada. We reached out to BlackBerry and they stated in an email to us that “LG is making the in-country availability decisions, and at this time, there are no plans to make BBM available via a preload in Canada. However, LG users can still download BBM for free from Android app stores.”

Source: BlackBerry

  • James

    You can’t force someone to use bbm if they don’t want to. Bunch of people I know think that bbm is useless and shouldn’t be a stand alone app the first place.

  • Jonathan Schmitt

    I think I am impressed that LG is incorporating it into their new phones. But I am disappointed that they will not be pre loaded with Canadian models.

  • Eluder

    BB needs to worry about fixing the current bugs with Nexus 5/Kitkat support first. BBM is pretty poor when it comes to notifications now. Fix that first, then worry about preloading it.

    • gommer strike

      Fully agree. They need to lose that “just in case” notification shade icon – why do you need a safety net, Blackberry? oh because you’re afraid that the phone will run “low on memory”, and this icon’s “just in case”, lol? How come Whatsapp, KiK, WeChat don’t need that?

      They should have coded BBM to use the latest in Google frameworks that way, it would have interacted with the OS properly…kinda like how everyone ELSE does it…

  • Jason Keirstead

    With Google Hangouts the default SMS messaging app in Kitkat and beyond this seems like a total waste of time.

    How many people use BBM on Android vs. how many people have a Google account (99% of Android users?)

    • Hurdy Guest

      People who think android sucks and don’t like making the choice between “security and privacy” that you have to make with android? How about how many people use BBM vs how many people use google hangouts?
      Peeps need to get past the blind hate. Its been enough already.

    • MXH070

      People dwell in the past and need to realize it’s NOT the same management from 2008

    • barrist

      What’s actually changed though? There was a change in management a short time ago with Heins as well.

    • MXH070

      True, Thor did keep 95% of the suits and pink slip the workers. Chen is doing it right fire the suits and keep the little guys.
      The upper level management is the problem with BlackBerry and it needs to change drastically, Chen is moving in the direction but not sure if he will go all the way.

      People can’t place past errors on others that had absolutely nothing to do with the choices made at that time.

    • gommer strike

      Yeah the new boss is being much more aggressive and merciless with trimming with fat.

      I would like to see him retain the needed R&D, and developer divisions, and keep the management only where it needs to be. Focus on whatever the heck they want BB to be and what markets they are trying to serve, and laser beam in on just those things.

    • Matt

      My blind hate has more to do with the BBbois than anything to do with the company… heh.

    • MXH070

      Just look at all the articles great example BGR they just make stuff up or distort it to make BlackBerry look bad.
      Just take a look at any BlackBerry Article here on Mobile Syrup and 90% comments are hate response from people that have never held nor used a BlackBerry device. So yes Blind hate is well entrenched in the mind set of the population fuel by writers of articles that don’t like BlackBerry. A good example was an article yesterday here on Mobile Syrup about BlackBerry giving prizes away if you submit your BBM pin. The write put a negative spin on it even though other companies like Mobile Syrup do the exact same thing.

    • Amanda Jane McGuire-Jones

      Blackberry are too late… The person Heins – he held blackberry back a lot. The company did the right thing sacking him coz he was killing blackberry…

      I am no blackberry or BBM fan – BBM still has a long way to go. It’s far from perfect.
      I like the new CEO – John – he does sound promising. Heins left the company in right mess.He had to go

      But speaking as an iPhone user – if people really wanted BBM they would of bought a blackberry.

      That even applys to android users too. If people wanted BBM they would of got a blackberry.

      At the minute blackberry are trying to bring BlackBerry to iOS & Android.. If we wanted blackberry or their BBM – we would of go blackberry wouldn’t we. Blackberry need focus on there own stuff never mind iOS or android or what ever. They need to get them selfs back on top 1st b4 branching out, and putting their company back on track 1st. Surely blackberry users would agree – let be honest blackberry have lost a lot of money & market shares. They need to focus on their own products. The company was nearly dead & they are still losing money. BBM was the crown jewel. But not BBM has crossed over – it’s still killing them. People rather have iPhones & android or windows. Blackberrys timing has always bin terrible lets be honest. They should be focusing on them selfs. Heins left blackberry 4 dead.

    • MXH070

      People don’t by BlackBerry for BBM there are many other reasons but BBM is a nice extra. Going cross platform will draw a lot of ex BBM users that have left BlackBerry for other devices due to wanting more apps and flashier phones which BlackBerry didn’t in the past but hopefully that might change with new management. Question do you buy a Google device if you want to use YouTube / Gmail/ Google etc probably not but you are willing to use a app that brings the function to your device…

    • Hurdy Guest

      Oh nekkidtruth, go on hating if thats how you want to live your life. Others keep moving. I haven’t been asleep. My eyes are wide open. You seen BB10? I can totally ignore any device in the past, and I never feel any company makes me any promises, I’m not in some personal relationship with any company. They make stuff I like I buy it, they don’t i dont buy. SImple. You are over thinking things.

    • Hurdy Guest

      Well just wait then. Its no big deal. Or don’t buy LG. BBM to me is bar far the best messaging platform. Do I speak for everyone? No. But I speak for a percentage. And now that percentage is likely to grow. BBM should get voice and video cross-platform too which will make this app even better. BB has got a lot of negative perception around it no doubt, but that has nothing to do with whether BBM is a good or bad platform. Millions of people use it and its bound to grow with deals like this.

    • Hurdy Guest

      I think the thing people fail to realize, and I’m not point at just you, is its all about percentages and the long term. Does it matter that BBM is later on? Sure. Would like like 100% marketshare? Probably. But are these things realistic or feasible? No. I’m no going to go into some long explanation but all BB needs is a percentage of the marketshare, which they have, and for it to grow, which it will. It will grow with or without voice and video, but, voice and video are coming and will further push adoption. Sure theres other platforms, but they are the ones that should be worried. The only thing BB has going against is this stupid negative perception from people who either can’t get over some fictitious hurt they feel or the followers who believe the constant stream of media garbage. Any unbiased, unemotional, intelligent and analytical person would release what BB has accomplished is impressive and BBM is easily one of the best platforms out there. Now. Who do you want to bet your money on? The long list of platforms that are also competing for marketshare……… anyone could do well… or one that is coming preloaded on 100% of BB devices being sold (sure its not huge) is available to android and iOS and now is coming pre-loaded on LGs and a bunch more OEMs devices albeit low end devices in India mainly. Plus you have a company who despite what you hear is not going anywhere anytime soon. I know i said I wouldn’t make a long explanation but this is relatively short for what else I could go on about.

  • kroms

    Meh, No big deal.

  • Balls O’Steele

    Will it be preloaded on the LG Nexus 5?
    Just bloatware that I will have to remove from the pure kitkat

    • Eluder

      Doubt it since that’s a Google phone manufactured by LG, rather than an LG phone.

    • blzd

      Oh certainly. It’s right in there with all the other darn Nexus bloatware we’ve all come to expect and loathe by now. YouTube, Chrome, now THIS!

  • Hurdy Guest

    Come on guys. Lets get past the hate. How can this be a bad thing? Oh, I’m sure you can come up with many abstract misguided reasons, but what would you be saying if ‘hangouts’ or ‘gchat’ or whatever come pre-loaded on iOS?
    This is pretty big. Right now I dont think whatsapp, snapchat, kik, wechat, skype… come pre-loaded on any phones aside from the obvious (skype on windows).
    Pre-loaded is huge. Its how fb and twitter are on a lot of phones.

    • HiKsFiles

      Let’s see how huge this is, just for fun….

      Thumbs up this post if you’re one of the 10M BBM downloads and have since uninstalled the app. Down vote if you’re still ACTIVELY using BBM.

      If you haven’t downloaded BBM for lack of interest, just keep on reading please. ;)

    • Hurdy Guest

      Lol. Ya, lets see how many android lovers there are on mobile sryup. Good analysis buddy. Wouldn’t expect any better logic from android fans (other option i would assume is apple fans, but they dont even seem as fanboyish as android fans seem nowadays).

      So lets say LG sells 10 millions phones with BBM. This isn’t a big deal? What about the millions of android users who could care less they have android, they just use it cause its been the standard OS that OEMs use and they need a phone and has nothing to do with whether android is any good.

      Keep on hating. Google loves you! and all your data they sell!

    • HiKsFiles

      Just so you know, my girlfriend (who owns an iPhone 5, excellent phone by the way) and I gave BBM a try when it came out. We used it for 2-3 weeks before coming to the conclusion that, for us, Hangouts was more reliable and better suited our needs. BBM is still installed on my S3, I’m just not using it anymore.

      So go ahead, put my in whichever bag you think fits me best : android fanboy, BB hater, Apple sheep… I couldn’t care less.

      Bottom line is that you can pre-install any software on any phone and use this number to let the world know you have an install base of X millions users. The real question is : how many out of this X millions really use the software?!

      In the case of BBM on Android, pretty sure it’s not even close to 10 millions anymore…

    • Hurdy Guest

      Lol. Awesome. I’ll put you in the “i use my girlfriend and my experience as my basis for understanding of technology” bag.

      I like your bottom line. How many millions know or even care they are using android. If you switched it out for tizen, mozilla, jolla, ubuntu would they even know? Im betting a large portion wouldn’t.

      So who wins? All the messaging platforms that are not coming pre-installed on any devices? Or BB who is coming pre-installed on a growing number of devices.

      As for how many BBM on android users there are, dont be surprised if you are wrong. And dong be surprised if more people are using BBM on android than hangouts. And don’t take it personally if you are wrong, its okay to just be happy with what you are doing, but millions of people are using BBM, and millions more will now have it pre-loaded on their LG devices.

    • Hurdy Guest

      Lol. Awesome. I’ll put you in the “i use my girlfriend and my experience as my basis for understanding of technology” bag.

      I like your bottom line. How many millions know or even care they are using android. If you switched it out for tizen, mozilla, jolla, ubuntu would they even know? Im betting a large portion wouldn’t.

      So who wins? All the messaging platforms that are not coming pre-installed on any devices? Or BB who is coming pre-installed on a growing number of devices.

      As for how many BBM on android users there are, dont be surprised if you are wrong. And dong be surprised if more people are using BBM on android than hangouts. And don’t take it personally if you are wrong, its okay to just be happy with what you are doing, but millions of people are using BBM, and millions more will now have it pre-loaded on their LG devices.

    • Hurdy Guest

      So based on this ridiculously accurate measurement ;) so far 40 percent of android users kept it. (but to be honest even if there was a ton of down votes I wouldn’t take it as a win)

      We all know android has a huge marketshare. So if even a small marketshare use BBM, thats a big market share for BBM.

    • danbob999

      “Come on guys. Lets get past the hate. How can this be a bad thing?”

      Actually this is really bad. This mean more bloat on phones. How can this be a good thing? If you want BBM, install it. Period. No need to pre-load.

    • Hurdy Guest

      Bloat on phones. You mean android????

      If you dont see how this is a good thing for BBM theres no point.

      Do you think sms, fb, twitter are bloat? Cause this being preloaded means BBM can become a de facto messaging platform.

    • thas ★

      If people want to use it, they can go to the store and download it. It deserves to be called bloatware when it’s pushed upon people like this.

  • Lamar

    What I am about to say is the HONEST to GOD TRUTH!
    If iPhone or Android created BBM and it went cross platform and came preloaded on mobile ios/android/blackberry devices. NO ONE WOULD HATE! Only because BlackBerry is doing it, people find every reason to see the negativity. Like for heavens sake CAN WE PLEASE MOVE ON FROM THE “LETS HATE ON BLACKBERRY” MOVEMENT. It is getting rather old. 2014 is approaching quickly.

    • barrist

      If BBM did this at the height of its popularity you may have a point. However, this article is kind of a non-story. It basically only applies to devices in emerging markets where BBM still has alot of cache.

      As for the “hating on Blackberry” movement, can the MobileSyrup comments section move away from the “defend BlackBerry like it’s your boyfriend” mentality? I’m not sure why you’re complaining here, it’s one of the few multi-company tech blogs that still sees alot of BB support, you should be grateful. There is a reason why they are hated on, they’re failing as a tech company when it used to be on top.

    • Hurdy Guest

      Or how about moving away from the “hate BB like its my girlfriend who dumped me”??

      Must be another person who thinks android marketshare is a business success. No profits to show, no control over the platform and a user base that is largely ignorant to the fact that their privacy and security are being completely abused. Huge success. Lol.

      Looks like this ‘failing as a tech company’ keeps getting wins but some people still amazing are blind to it……..blind hate I guess.

    • Dalex

      Or how about getting slightly informed about Android before posting. Android’s market share is an incredible success for Google if you actually have a clue on Google’s business model. Android is free, the ad possibilities that come from it are incredibly lucrative. Google is selling devices at cost just to get you to use Android, and its “Play” services. No one’s privacy is getting abused. If I’m going to see ads, I want them to be relevant. What exactly does security have to do with it anyway? Is Google a defense company now? Stop spewing rhetoric nonsense and get informed.

      Hate for BB is actually good, because it keeps it in the topic of conversation, something it desperately needs. Not that BBM being preloaded on some irrelevant LG devices will have any impact whatsoever.

    • MC Wong

      Google has too much access to our personal data, using Hangouts will just more private info to their database. Use whatsapp, bbm or some other 3rd party cross platform IMs to provide less personal info to google. BBM is more secured with better encryption than whatsapp and faster (mostly).

  • Lamar

    Anyone who is a real TECHIE, uses all devices! No discrimination. For all the “Fan BOYS” out there. If you are NOT getting paid by your favourite mobile company, quit sticking up for them. They don’t care about you.

  • MXH070

    Late to the game? seems that all msg apps of today have copied the idea from BBM in one way or another ie. kik/whatsapp/imessage etc. BBM is fast and efficient on BlackBerry devices but not up to the same speed on Android and iOS yet so time will tell when they add voice and video and screen share down the road how BBM will measure up in the app world.

    • Matt

      Copying BBM? Seriously? Copied what, exactly? Typing letters into a box that you send to contacts?

      I guess BBM has totally copied Yahoo Messenger and ICQ, then.

      What’s that, BBM is adding voice and video? Doesn’t WhatsApp have that capability already? No, they possibly couldn’t, since they copied BBM.

      What the crap, dude?

    • MXH070

      Whatsapp doesn’t have video or voice calling only push to talk feature which is pretty dam slow. BBM has had voice note years ago which is pretty much the same thing.

      In my opinion BBM did copy icq format to build a mobile device version if you look at the similarities one can see it. As for whatsap. yes they copied BBM as there was a large market of users that wanted a similar msg app like BBM but didn’t want to get a BlackBerry so like any good business Whatsapp filled a demand for all non BlackBerry devices.

    • Amanda Jane McGuire-Jones

      So Apple users don’t need BBM.
      We. Got Facetime & Skype for that. Apple & Samsung was well ahead – With blackberry all you could do is send texts… BBM was the 1st to do video chat.. They just like to think they was.

    • MXH070

      OK. So how about you face time imessage to a Nokia / LG / Samsung / HTC/ BlackBerry
      Etc You can’t, apple only works with Apple. But BBM works with Apple / LG / Samsung / HTC etc where face time and imessage doesn’t. So do you prefer to use multiple apps to accomplished a task or just use a single app that does it all.

      .

    • Amanda Jane McGuire-Jones

      Not really bothed bout BBM. Apple users have the luxury of FaceTime & Skype.. So why have another app when we have other choices. BBM isn’t all that. If anything BBM is full of jerks wanting Sex chat. What’s worrying you kids using BBM. I did download BBM when it came out.. For iPhone.. And there was nothing new bout it – it just seemed like the same old things over and over again. When you do add people all they do is send broadcasting messages, their mates pin, or all they want is sex chat. BBM seems old & dated now. Why would iPhone users need BBM. Apple, Samsung & HTC was doing Video chat long before Blackberry.

      This maybe new to Blackberry users but it’s not to iOS & Android – we also had Skype & FaceTime long before BlackBerry. BBM is now old. BlackBerry should lurched video chat as soon as Apple & Android started doing video chat. Typical BlackBerry 4 years to late. Let’s be honest.

    • gommer strike

      Messaging as a platform has been around since the days of ICQ. To suggest that Whatsapp ripped off of BBM…well what about SMS texting in general? That pre-dated BBM, no?

      BBM on Android is outright bad. It requires that icon to stay in the notification shade(just in case…lol?). Meanwhile the others like Whatsapp, KIK, WeChat, etc don’t require that incredibly archaic “feature”. And not to mention, BBM for Android is a grave offender of generating easily among the worse number of device wakelocks per second out of many Android apps. This is why users wondered why, after installing BBM, their battery life drained faster than it ever has.

      Outside of group messaging, BBM doesn’t offer any benefits that the incumbents haven’t already established a foothold on. Here are things I would do to fix BBM, if I was the boss:

      1) Re-code BBM to use the proper Google frameworks and remove the requirement for that incredibly ugly notification icon. The user should not see an icon up there at all, unless there’s a new message waiting.

      2) Fix the emoticon size. They should be equal to the text size.

      3) Better handling of friend list updates, eg. when someone changes their photo, broadcasts, etc. This should be more visible and apparent, not just a little star sitting on the bottom left.

      But overall…not a bad idea to bundle BBM together with a new phone. That’s an OK strategy actually. They should approach all the vendors, if they haven’t already…Samsung, Sony, HTC, Huawei…

    • MXH070

      Yeah I can agree that the over all polish isn’t great but the app is 2-3 months in the market with Android and iOS. As for the features missing name one messaging app that released with all of its features from the start and didn’t have issues to work out after release. Let’s see how it is when video and voice calling is added along with channel that should change the usefulness

  • Bbrysucks

    Terrible idea. Bad move lg. Bad move.

    • IJustGotaTan

      Luckily LG Canada isn’t being as stupid. I removed BBM after a few weeks. Couldn’t stand the constant notification icon and non-intuitive user interface.

    • blzd

      Did you see the option to remove the notification icon?

    • IJustGotaTan

      Yes and that also turns off the notification of bbm messages.

    • blzd

      I’ve been using the icon off and still receiving notifications of BBM messages. Apparently all the icon does is attempt to stay open at all times versus being put to sleep by the phone. This is fine with me since I don’t need it running 24hrs a day anyways.

      If the app is put to sleep then new notifications are not received untill I open BBM manually.

    • IJustGotaTan

      Pretty much defeats the purpose of “Instant messaging” If someone sends me a message, I want to be notified and not have to open the app to see if messages are waiting. That’s why turning off the icon doesn’t work and if the apps was designed properly, it wouldn’t need a constant icon.

  • BetelgeuseOrion

    sorry but hangouts is far superior, and anyone with a gmail account already has hangouts

  • jeff

    Yet another preloaded app that can’t be uninstalled but is also available on the app store should you actually want it. The biggest reason I switched to the Nexus 5 from the gs3 is the bloatware factor the oems and Rogers force on us. Now I can install or uninstall whatever I want. Love the hardware LG has been releasing, but they are losing sales due to the software and getting in bed with the carriers

  • jay

    Bbm is one from so many chat apps! Download it for my iPhone and somehow never used it like the 8 mio other!

    Using what’s app and hangouts that’s all

  • blzd

    People clearly have a lot of emotions towards Black Berry good or bad. Just think of this as a messaging program that uses it’s own secure tunnel and servers and forget whatever history you might have with the devices you probably have used a few years ago.

  • Guest

    Sorry you guys are not missing much. BBM is rubbish. People send u stupid pointless Broadcasting messages or the broadcast their mates pin.
    Then you get the i****s that all they want is BBM Sex Chat. It’s beyond awful.

    I tried to give it one last chance. I ended up deleting the app of my phone coz it’s crap. Viber & Whats App are better. People can call me & have ago me all you want. People are allowed to speak their mind – it’s called freedom of speech. Being Honest BBM seems old & Dated now.

    I downloaded it to try and give the benefit of the doubt.. It’s still crap.
    Yeah it’s great for friends & Family. But the minute you mention BBM – that’s when you get bugged. It’s not the app that’s the issue – but it’s still dated. But it’s the i****s & jerks that use it that are the issue.

  • MC Wong

    Bbm on Blackberry phones compresses data that many carriers in countries like Indonesia and Malaysia offers bbm/BIS services for USD 30 cents daily. Extend this to international roaming passes. Instead of costly data roaming charges, partner with carriers around the world to allow bbm texting for a small fee say USD 50 cents to a dollar daily strictly for bbm text messages. This would be more effective than preloading on android phones.

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