Apple could release wireless iPhone charging technology next year

Rob Attrell

January 29, 2016 4:17pm

Unfortunately for those who have dreams of charging their devices truly wirelessly, the current generation of cordless charging technology involves wires and an inductive charging mat.

Using an inductive charging mat, or magnetic charging cable with the Apple Watch, still requires physical contact between the device being charged and the charger, which remains wired. Magnetic induction at a distance of more than an inch or two has been in development for a very long time, but current versions of the technology still results in inefficient charging.

Apple has stated in the past that the company is not interested in releasing wireless-charging solutions that still require something to be plugged in. Yesterday, Bloomberg reported Apple is currently testing long-range induction charging solutions for the iPhone, and that the technology could make it into new phones as early as 2017.

Apple already owns several patents that could be used to implement this technology. In 2010, the company described a concept that involved using the iMac as a charging station, allowing any compatible device within one metre of the computer to be charged.

Another Apple patent from the end of 2015 describes a charging method that allows metal transparent radio signals to pass through the iPhone’s metallic casing. This allows wireless-power to charge a metallic phone safely without the radio waves getting blocked.

Wireless-charging still feels like it’s a long ways off, but if anybody can take a poorly thought out concept and find a way to make it work, it’s Apple.

SourceBloomberg
  • Mo Dabbas

    “but if anybody can take a poorly thought out concept and find a way to make it work, it’s Apple.” — this line…. Woooowww

    • Brad Fortin

      Well, that’s kind of what they did with computers, music players, digital music stores, smartphones, software updates, tablets, app distribution, etc, so it’s plausible.

    • Mo Dabbas

      I’m not going to bother arguing with you. You’ll go around in circles just so that you don’t admit wrong.

      Music players is just like many other things that got their prime time and then faded away. Before it Sony got the music industry right with the Walkman. The ipod was a new idea just like tapes and CDs were at the time (replacing vinyls or whatever they used to use). Things again are moving and the ipod is dying now.

      And no, apple is still behind when it comes to the computers. There is a reason why almost all work computers and most productivity softwares are windows only. There is a reason why apple makes a way for Mac users to install Windows on their devices.
      Also, Software update was a poorly executed idea? What are you talking about?

    • Brad Fortin

      “I’m not going to bother arguing with you.” So you did it anyway?

      You kind of glazed over the fact that for over a decade (and still today) Apple dominated the MP3 player market with a solution that was better than most other devices on the market. Other players either had too little storage, didn’t last very long on a charge, were huge and bulky, or just had terrible interfaces, and Apple’s solution had lots of storage for the time, lasted much longer, was pretty compact, and easy to use. The only reason the iPod is going away is because Apple’s cannibalizing iPod sales with iPhone sales. It’s only “dying” by Apple’s own will to make room for future devices.

      For computers I was referring to the fact that they made the GUI mainstream. There were other solutions at the time, like the Xerox PARC/Star/Alto and later the SGI Iris 1000, but it wasn’t until the Lisa and the Macintosh that the kind of GUI and its nuances that we know today came to fruition, like drag & drop, clipboard, control panel, widgets, etc.

      Software updates I’m referring to mobile devices, which before the iPhone would ship with one version of an OS and were seldom updated to a new version, especially for free. It’s still broken for Android, but getting better for Windows Phone… whenever they release WP10. Same thing for desktop OS updates, with Apple leading the way on free annual updates ahead of Microsoft.

    • Justin

      Windows is by far the GUI leader, not Apple, why do you think that is? Computers weren’t mainstream when Apple made the Mac 128 computer, probably 1 in 10 homes had them? Apple almost went bankrupt with their computer business. iPod & iPhone is the only reason they are still around. There is nothing broke with Android or it’s updates, and Windows Phone is far superior to IOS in so many ways if you want a phone that functions. Android is superior if you want something you can hack around with.

    • Brad Fortin

      Hahahahahaha. Oh wow, thanks, I needed that. Hahahaha.

    • Vito R.

      Windows Phone is far superior to iOS? Hahaha.

      Yes, Android is fantastic if you want to “hack around” with it. That’s what Android fanboys don’t get – most people do not want to hack around with their phone. They just was a reliable device that runs all the best apps and gets good support from the vendor.

    • Vito R.

      Apple computers outpace the industry in growth. MacBooks are the best selling laptops.

      The reason most corporations use Windows is because of legacy apps – not because of reliability or usability.

      Most web new technology companies that are OS agnostic are Mac based.

      Nobody ‘likes’ Windows, they are just stick with it.

      And his point that Apple takes existing ideas – MP3 players, laptops,phones, tablets –

    • gommer strike

      Just think of it this way. Apple is never ever the pioneer for any technology. Not once, not will they ever be.

      They are, however, very good at taking what’s already invented by others, iterate on it, combine elements together(again, done first by others), and come out with product that’s arguably easily accepted and used by non-techie audiences.

      Everyone has “made it work” that’s no secret. But Apple tends to package the same idea, in such a way that it lends the perception of “it just works” to the average Joe/Jane.

    • Mo Dabbas

      So what is already invented is a poorly executed concept until apple does it?

    • gommer strike

      Not really. Remember the old days of the Sony MP3 players that long predated the iPod? Remember all those other MP3 players? They sold OK, and were largely OK.

      The problem was, the user interface on each of these were kinda so-so. Also there wasn’t a really great, single method to copy your music onto the device(other than just connecting and using Windows explorer or using 3rd party tools…some were pretty good, some were kinda meh, but the landscape for digital music was pretty messy.

      Then Apple came along, and put together iTunes along with the iPod. They sold and completed the whole widget in one neat package.

      Mind you, I never bought an iPod. I had never seen one nor even considered it, until my sister brought hers over and showed it. I thought at the time, it was OK. But then I saw more and more people with one. I thought it was just an overpriced fad myself.

      The point here is, wireless charging today? It works. And it’s fine for what we see and what it’s used for. And I’m told that wireless charging is nothing new, and in Europe it’s incredibly old news. We here are just late to the game.

      So Apple’s gonna create their version of it. Let’s see if it’s any better than what we see, and not an abomination like what they did with their last wireless mouse.

      So I’m not harping on what others have done. Everything we’ve ever seen as technical people, as long as it works and is reasonably reliable, is fine for us. But I also realize we aren’t the only audiences. It’s the people like our grandparents, the people around us who hardly even know how to use a computer, are no less important.

    • Mo Dabbas

      So apple worked well with a handful of things that were there before it and now everything apple touches is better than the competition?
      I’ll list the things that really apple did better than the competition (putting in mind this is a company that started in the 70’s).
      ITunes and ipods
      Iphone
      Ipad
      Apple pay maybe?
      I might have missed some. But you get my point. Apple is a big company that has its good stuff and bad stuff. It’s not if they touch it it’s gold kinda thing. for example, apple’s game console (don’t know the name, but it was there when I was bought my Playstation in 1998). That’s not a thing that was done bad by others then apple did it and was the magical device.
      If you want a more modern example, I can easily point apple maps. Or look at apples attempt to build their own car. The project got so many problems and now the lead guy left the company and the project is put on hold.
      That’s the point I’m putting. apple is a gigantic company and they did make breakthroughs before, but also they had their floppy side as well. To say every technology pre-apple application is badly executed is absurd.

    • It’s Me

      You may have missed some? The Mac wasn’t superior to the DOS PCs that were contemporaries? It was intruduced in the early 80s while PCs waited until 95 to get a proper GUI.

    • Mo Dabbas

      yeah. I should have said “I might have missed one” to make myself correct. my bad.

    • It’s Me

      Well, that and you intentionally said they started in the 70s and then jumped to things they did in the 2000s to try to give the impression of decades before they did something well. That was just dishonest.

    • Mo Dabbas

      coz these are the things I witnessed. I don’t know what apple did in the 70’s and 80’s. I wasn’t born yet. Things are more memorable when you witness them

    • It’s Me

      And yet you still emphasized that they started in the 70s. Ignorance of the rest isn’t an excuse for intentionally attempting to mislead.

    • Mo Dabbas

      oh. what now?? Are you trying to say I’m ignorant or I’m intentionally attempting to mislead (I really don’t get it). Anyways, both are meaningless personal attacks based on nothing really. Unlike you, I don’t have this blind love to apple to memorize all of the company’s products and history.
      But I’m not surprised, it’s ironic what people would do when they’re in love isn’t it?

    • It’s Me

      You claimed ignorance when you said you didn’t know about things older than you (for your own edification, ignorance of something is the lack of knowledge of that thing, which is what you said of yourself). If that’s a personal attack it’s one you directed toward yourself.

      You clearly made an attempt to mislead, so pointing that out isn’t a personal attack either.

    • Mo Dabbas

      Whatever makes you happy. You can decipher every word I type as you like.

    • It’s Me

      WTF? Am I not supposed to take you at your word? If you say you are ignorant of something (I.e saying that you don’t know about something) shouldn’t I believe you? If you say you are ignorant, I believe you. But that isn’t an excuse for dishonesty.

    • Mo Dabbas

      You can believe in whatever you want. It’s a free country.

    • It’s Me

      In this case, I believe that you are not an outright liar, so when you say you are ignorant of something I believe you.

    • Mo Dabbas

      Good for you. But I couldn’t care less.

    • It’s Me

      Obviously.

      /s????

    • Mo Dabbas

      yea

    • Justin

      Windows 3 was a good GUI and it came out in 1990. Mac 128 came out in 1984, so not that far apart. You could argue Windows 1, or 2 was a good GUI too. The Amiga 1000 and Atari 520ST both came out in 1985 and had GUI superior to Mac.

    • It’s Me

      And those early Windows were interesting apps, but not OSes.

      And how does listing windows and amigos that came after Mac show Apple wasn’t there first?

    • Justin

      Agree to disagree about early windows vs early mac. My point was Amiga & Atari did a better job than Apple at around the same time, just like how sometimes Apple does a better job after others have the done the same thing. We all know Xerox was first with the GUI & mouse just they didn’t commercialize it.

    • gommer strike

      Just so you know, I do use Apple products, but by no means am I an full-on fanboi. My gaming is done on a far superior platform – Windows PC.

      I can think of a ton of things that Apple failed miserably at:

      – Pippin game console
      – MobileMe
      – their failed attempt at social media around music

      If I came across as Apple having the midas touch for everything, naw I know better. I didn’t buy the Apple Watch, why? Because in my view, this thing’s gimmicky(although I know others will disagree). It’s too situational and the battery life is too short. It’s too big also. It doesn’t look better than my Hamilton watch that I bought from Europe. The iPad Pro is just a bigger iPad and too expensive.

      But when they execute something well, I have to admit – it’s done very well, enough for people to buy it(knowing full well that these are all extremely high-margin products).

    • Vito R.

      Apple Watch is not gimmicky. Look at Samsung Watches for an example of gimmicky 😉

    • It’s Me

      How many wireless charging devices do you have now? Not tethered to a wired pad wireless but really wireless.

    • Mo Dabbas

      Huh?? Are you talking about a product that is rumoured (not confimed in any way) to come in the next iphone in 2017. So you are trying to mention something that doesn’t exist yet, and it is expected to expected to come in maybe fall 2017 (so in 18 months).
      Really. I am impressed by your argument.

    • It’s Me

      Wait, didn’t you say it was already invented but were upset at the suggestion that it might be Apple that does it right?

      So what is already invented is a poorly executed concept until apple does it?

      Yeah, you did. It’s so well executed today as evidenced by all of the devices you have that do it.

      I’m not terribly impressed by your argument. It comes off as just looking for a reason to complain about Apple even if the complaint doesn’t make any sense.

    • Mo Dabbas

      … What are you talking about?? Like I’m seriously confused, what you’re trying to point out. You’re just throwing words. You’re arguing about apples idea of wireless charging as if apple going to release their wireless charging solution tomorrow. In 18 months, I’m pretty sure lots of technologies that are out now will advance.
      You’re not impressed by my argument, that’s cool. At least my argument makes sense. Not just throwing words to defend you love for life company.

      I’m not complaining about the company by the way. I guess love is blinding. I’m talking about the author unhidden bias towards what seems to also be the love of his life.

    • It’s Me

      Except in these comments you hadn’t made that point at all. You’re only point, especially after the huge edits, was a complaint about Apple not being first and being upset that someone expects Apple would do it right. In context of a story about Apple doing true wireless charging.

      So, has anyone else done true wireless charging so well that you use it? Nope. But if Apple does it, as this story is about, you’re already complaining about them not being first to do it right.

    • Mo Dabbas

      Huge edits?? I just fixed my typos coz I was typing on my phone.

      “So, has anyone else done true wireless charging so well that you use it? Nope. But if Apple does it” — yes, IF apple does it. IF is there as it implement uncertainty. So you’re saying IF apple does it in september 2017. Yeah ok, let’s play the IF game.

      And by the way, look around as other companies are already working on chargers that wireless charging devices within a room. Do you get my point how technology will be completely different in 18 months.

      The rest of this comment is like writing “bla bla bla” many times by the way.

      I’m done from this. I don’t see a point of going further with this argument.

    • TrickyDickie

      IPress: “Look, analysts! Apple really do still innovate! Please don’t give up on them!” Funny lol

    • Justin

      Apple manipulates the market to their advantage. The make products that require other Apple products to work properly so people get caught into their ecosystem. They do what they do quite well now but that hasn’t always been the case, and it appears they are starting to slip since iPhone sales year over year are flat and that’s about 70% of their revenues.

    • gommer strike

      iPhone sales are flat. But you know what else is flat? Telecom profits are flat too(google some of the layoffs that’ve happened this year thus far…more to come). China’s stock market is in shambles right now, and we’re in trouble in many way areas in the world to list here. iPhone is flat. Samsung is hurting too, being nipped in the heels by Huawei, Xiaomi etc etc.

      Yes, that’s been the case for a very long time. It’s been Apple’s mandate to lock people into the ecosystem. It is their approach. The closed approach vs the open one. Windows vs Mac, and today iOS vs Android. It’s going to remain their core strategy, and that’s not going to change.

      Remember when Steve Jobs lay there in bed, dying of cancer, with Bill Gates sitting at his bedside? The two of them had a rare moment together. You know what that was? They both acknowledged, that despite their differences in worldviews and differing approach towards technology – both ways worked.

    • Brad Fortin

      “Apple is never ever the pioneer for any technology. Not once, not will they ever be.”

      So… Who had affordable GUI computers before the Macintosh? Who had a touchscreen PDA before Apple even coined the term at CES ’92? Who had smooth video playback on computers before QuickTime? Who had 17″ laptops before Apple? Who had capacitive multitouch smartphones before Apple? Who invented Swift before Apple?

      Ever heard of ARM? It was a joint venture between Acorn Computers, Apple, and VLSI Technology to make chips for the Newton. No Newton, no ARM.

      How about PowerPC? Also a joint venture, between Apple, IBM, and Motorola to make chips for the Mac.

    • gommer strike

      Who had the first GUI(which Apple ripped off)? Xerox.

      When I talk about “invention” I’m talking about stuff that’s at the level of the light bulb(and it’s a subject of debate whether Edison truly invented it first, or did he *patent* it first – two different things).

      But you know what’s truly important? Again it isn’t about who’s “first”. It’s about who’s able to take existing ideas, combine them, and bring them to the market where people see value, and are willing to pay.

      And once again I say that Apple is among the most successful companies being able to do that. Many here will disagree, but when people are willing to pay a premium price for an Apple-branded product – I’m not going to call these people stupid or iSheep.

      I call these people customers, families, brothers/sisters, friends of friends. That’s my view.

    • Brad Fortin

      Xerox had *a* GUI, but not the GUI we know and use today. Apple’s implementation pioneered features like a menu bar, drag & drop, the clipboard, a control panel, widgets, etc. Xerox didn’t have any of those features, Apple pioneered them (which you say they don’t do). And what of the rest of the examples? I guess Apple did pioneer a few things after all?

      Moving the goal posts now? First it’s “Apple never ever pioneers/invents anything”, now it’s “they pioneer stuff, just not on the level of X”? (As far as I know, Edisson is believed to have invented the *modern* lightbulb. There were other light bulbs before but they weren’t as good, and Edisson iterated on prior work.)

    • gommer strike

      Look I’m not here to argue with you. You make a lot of great points. But have you changed my view on Apple? Not really. You’re welcome to have your view, and for myself to have mine. And mine remains as such:

      Apple is the master of combining pre-existing ideas together, into a package that’s easy and simple for regular consumers to understand…which they then pay a premium price for.

      I’ll leave you with a final word on this discussion(let’s not have an endless back-and-forth). Wireless charging. What will it look like when Apple does it for the iPhone? My prediction is that it’ll be something quite a bit better than what we’ve seen to date(better than what they’ve done with the Apple watch).

      I’m prepared to be wrong here, but I’m also prepared to be surprised. Like I said it doesn’t matter who’s first. It’s about who’s *done it right*.

    • Mr Dog

      Fingerprint Reader and Apple Pay are just two examples of Apple taking existing technology and packaging it in such a way that it is secure and easy to use for the consumer.

      The implementation of the fingerprint reader on the Atria was half assed with very basic support. Apple took what they did and made it seamless for the user as well as developers. Same with Apple Pay, Google Wallet was more of a midway point, but Apple went the extra mile by talking to Merchants, Banks etc to show them the benefits of Apple Pay (And Android Pay, tokenization in general).

      So that line is 100% accurate. Their solution might not always work, but they have a pretty dam good rep of taking poorly implemented concepts and doing it right.

  • thefoolishone

    “allowing any compatible device within one metre of the computer to be charged.”

    Great idea, hope it works. Hope it doesn’t cause cancer. 🙂

    • Brad Fortin

      Depends on the frequency of the radios used. As long as it doesn’t go into the ultraviolet end of the spectrum we’ll be fine.

  • Justin

    Wireless charging has been working fine as far back as the Palm Pre years ago. Why this article is talking about it like it’s something that needs to be figured out!? Of course Apple will claim they invented it, but that’s not hard to predict based on past statements from them

    • It’s Me

      If you don’t see the difference between contactless wireless charging and “wireless” that effectively requires you to tether the device to a fixed spot, then you won’t get it. Other than not having to plug the device in, how is today’s “wireless” charging different than wired charging?

    • Justin

      Oh I get it, maybe you don’t? Placing a phone on a pad is a lot simpler and quicker than finding the cord and plugging it into a tiny hole. I don’t want to be bombarded by enough electromagnetism to cook a potato so I can avoid placing my phone in a 1 ft sq area. If you want to walk into your house and have it charge things no matter where they are then you would need thousands or millions of times more energy than WIFI!

    • Victor Creed

      Requiring an iMac to be within a certain distance to charge wirelessly isn’t really any different is it? The iMac is still tethered and not portable.

    • It’s Me

      True, it doesn’t completely solve the proximity requirement but it does extend it and solves the contact requirement. As much as today’s wireless charging still requires a wall plug and for the phone to be in contact with the charger and yet is seen as more convenient because it alliviates the need to connect the phone, this would be just that little bit more convenient because it would alliviates the needs to place the phone in a specific location. Proximity vs contact. Your wireless mouse and keyboard work when in proximity of your PC, which is far more convenient than if they only worked when in contact with a connected pad.

    • Brad Fortin

      No, but given enough devices (or even power outlets) with Apple’s version of wireless charging your phone could charge as you walk around the house with it rather than placing it down on a specific “wireless” charging point.

    • Laer

      I gotta say I disagree. Pad charging is great as is. If the iphone had a decent battery you wouldn’t need it magically and thoughtlessly charging all the time.

      As is, I rarely if ever think of my phone’s battery life because that’s been solved.

      Better Charging tech is a stop gap for failure at better battery life

    • It’s Me

      Wireless charging is good now but it could be better. Some people just don’t want to acknowledge that because this story is associated with Apple. But I guarantee that if Samsung or google formally announces their contactless/proximity wireless charging everyone that is looking for excuses now will say it’s awesome. We saw the exact same thing with soft keyboards, app stores, multitouch, voice assistants, desktop-like mobile browsers, visual voicemail, etc. Lots of naysayers because Apple, but magically attitudes suddenly change. It’s a consistent and predictable phenomenon.

    • FlamesFan89

      Yuck, who in their right mind prefers a soft keyboard. These people must not need to type much, or just generally hate life.

      Voice assistants? I don’t care if it is Siri, Google Now, or Cortana, you look like a total dork talking to your phone for reasons other than an actual phone call.

      Desktop-like mobile browsers, did Apple do that first? huh, didn’t know. Cool.

      What is visual voicemail? Is that like Princess Leia “Obi-Wan, you are my only hope!”

      App Stores, who are these naysayers you speak of? I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say an app store is a bad thing. That said, perhaps Apple was the first on mobile with that, but you are ignoring the existence of Linux if you think Apple was first with that concept.

      Multi-touch? again, who are these naysayers?

    • It’s Me

      Re:multi touch and app store, you’d have to go back 6 -8 years, but as I was engaged in discussions about Apple back then, yes there were naysayers. App store was unnecessary because we were all going to get apps via web apps or because no one would ever pay for mobile apps. Java apps were all we’d ever need (and you had access to a linux app store on your phone pre-iPhone?). Multitouch was just a gimmick. Cool but a waste of limited processors on a mobile. Of course once everyone is doing them same thing they seem obvious and in hindsight everyone knew they were important features.

      Few, if any, said they were bad things, that’s not what I claimed at all. But they weren’t important. What we had at the time was “good enough” and Apple pushing these things was a joke. Until it wasn’t just Apple. Then they were the bomb.

      Wireless charging is good enough now. No need to improve. Well, until it’s not Apple, then of course it was what we all wanted. /s

    • FlamesFan89

      I don’t think (but maybe I haven’t read enough of the comments here) that people are saying that wireless charging couldn’t improve, at least one person was saying that in the time between now and when Apple does actually release something, there is likely to be lots of improvement, and I’m sure it will be welcomed.

      I think the argument being made is more that this article paints things in a light that suggests that the current state of wireless charging is an absolute joke, and has no business calling itself wireless charging at all, and how dare anyone think it is at all good. But just you wait until Apple does something… That’s what I think people are taking issue with.

      Wireless charging right now certainly is’t perfect, but if you have a few pads (even if they are plugged in via wire, the horror) in different, convenient locations, say on your desk, your nightstand, an end table, then you can set your phone down, with practically zero effort in alignment, and your phone charges while it is sitting there. Who cares if there is a wire from the wall to the desk. You plug it in once and forget about it. Just like if Apple has some device that plugs in and provides charging from a distance, you still plug that thing in once and forget about it. Is it a “better” solution, perhaps, but that doesn’t mean that the current solution isn’t good, and it also doesn’t mean that the current solutions aren’t going to get better regardless of Apple’s presence in the space.

    • It’s Me

      Pad charging is great as is. If the iphone had a decent battery you wouldn’t need it magically and thoughtlessly charging all the time.

      As is, I rarely if ever think of my phone’s battery life because that’s been solved.

      It’s already good enough. Wanting more is a weakness because Apple. Same comments, year after year.

      No one has even said current “wireless” isn’t good. But it’s a misnomer to begin with, since it is a complete wired solution, with the only difference between it and regular charging is whether the contact is made internally through a plug or externally through a contact pad. Just as not having to insert a small plug is a convenience, not having to place it on a pad is a convenience. And most people with admit that, but many can’t bring themselves to admit it as long as the story is about Apple.

    • FlamesFan89

      I haven’t read all the comments, nor do I care to. You found someone saying that. Kudos. I don’t care.

      As for the misnomer, I disagree. If Apple provides “wireless” charging from the iMac, by the exact definition you are using, it also wouldn’t be wireless, as there is still a wire from the computer to the wall. The point is, why does it matter if there is a wire from the wall to the computer, or a wire from the wall to a pad, the point is, you set down your phone, and it charges. Is setting it anywhere on your desk, vs setting it on a pad better, I guess, but me personally, I don’t even have wireless charging and I still always set my phone in the exact same spot. People are creatures of habit. I sure I’m not alone in setting my phone down in the same spots all the time. So I ask to you, why does it matter if there is a wire between the pad and the wall, if all it takes for me to charge my phone is for me to simply set my phone down where I always set it down? Is it just semantics? Because if it is just semantics, that’s kind of pathetic don’t you think?

    • It’s Me

      A) as far as me finding someone, umm, well, that was sort of the very conversation you jumped into and said no one was saying it. They were saying it and you jumped into to clarify that they weren’t. Congratz. You cared enough to jump in. You were just wrong. Not a big deal.

      B) the general definition of wireless is no physical contact. We have wireless data, which still requires wires but is called wireless because, wait for it, no physical connection to your phone to get the data. Wireless charging should just as much mean no physical connection.

      And no, it isn’t just semantics. Anyone that is being honest can admit, not having to insert a physical connector is more convenient than inserting a physical connector. Is it life changing in it’s convenience? Nope. Just a little more convenient. you still have to physically connect the phone and the charger, just no insertion. Semantics I guess. And anyone being honest can admit that further not having to make physical contact at all is convenient than having to place the phone on a specific spot. Leaving my phone in my jacket or my drawer or my wife leaving hers in her purse is more convenient than fishing it out and placing it on a charger, just like placing it on a charger is more convenient than inserting a plug. Anyone being honest would admit that using a wireless mouse anywhere on their desk is more convenient that having to use a wireless mouse that was effectively tethered to a special mouse pad. Semantics.

      You don’t see the difference and that’s fine. That’s par for the course and completely expected. Just like the rest. As long as it’s Apple. If google announces this tomorrow, we will hear a different chorus from the same people. We always do.

    • FlamesFan89

      Wow, I stopped reading, because, well, you were throwing out some word salad there.

      1) I don’t care what others said, you seem to think that what someone else said makes me wrong, but, uh, no. just no.

      B) The definition of wireless is no physical contact? really? You don’t want to think that one over for say, 1 second, and realize that the answer is actually in the name itself? So if I set my phone on top of my router, does wifi cease being wireless? Think about that, like I said, maybe for a second. Wireless data requires no wires between the phone and the cell, but that cell communicates with something, and somewhere along the way, there is a computer involved that is, gasp, wired. So your gripe is not actual physical contact, but how far you are removed from it. A wireless charging pad is still wireless between the phone and the pad. So if I hold my phone a millimeter off the pad, and it charges, do you then conceed it is wireless, but somehow not wireless if it is touching the pad? Where is the wire from the pad to the phone, gasp again, it doesn’t exist.

      iii) This one here is basically just here to continue the 1-B-iii joke, a la Buzz from Home Alone. Really, you seem pretty worked up about the fact that someone thinks that if you can charge your phone, without plugging a wire into it, that somehow doesn’t count as wireless. If that floats your boat, then all the power to you. Me, I tend to think that if I am not connecting a wire to my phone, but still charging it, I am, in fact, charging it wirelessly.

    • It’s Me

      1) it makes you wrong if you say something didn’t happen when it fact it did…in the very conversation you jumped into.
      B) If your phone requires you to set you phone on top of your router in order to access data, yeah I’d say that no longer qualifies as a wireless device.
      iii) if you wave to physically connect it to the wire, through a plug or a contact plate, it’s not really wireless. In either case, the phone is physically connected to the wired power. You seem upset by that fact. Once Google announces it, your confusion will clear. It always does.

      Running around the house with your arms stretched out isn’t really flying. Most 3 year olds have figured that one out. They still say they are flying though. Semantics.

    • FlamesFan89

      Nope, I don’t care about Google. But that doesn’t fit your narrative either. Also, I’m not saying that Apple shouldn’t develop this, nor am I saying that it wouldn’t be better. But again, that doesn’t fit your narrative.

      Also, check above for how I completely dismantled your assertion of #1. You have, as usual, twisted things to fit your narrative.

      Your narrative. I just like saying it now.

    • It’s Me

      You dismantled nothing, you just waved your hands and said “no, no, no, that must mean something other that what was plainly written”.

      Of course you can’t admit it would be better. In fact you said it would be the same, any difference, you said, was semantics. Saying it would be the same is saying it wouldn’t be better. You had to say that. To admit otherwise would hurt too much. You guys are awesome.

    • FlamesFan89

      Nope, you again are playing that game where you attempt to do all the twisting and turning. My comment regarding semantics is that you are trying to claim that wireless charging isn’t wireless, when indeed, there is no wire connecting the phone to the thing charging it.

      Perhaps you don’t know what a wire is.

    • It’s Me

      In this case the wire is that thingy that runs up and makes contact with the phone, either through the contacts in the attached plug or the contacts on the attached plate. Wires. Gotta love them.

    • FlamesFan89

      So, if my phone is 1mm above the pad, and still charging, what is that?

    • It’s Me

      unusable?

    • FlamesFan89

      why? What if the charging pad is embedded in my desk, but covered by a 1 mm thick layer of say something like melamine? My phone is then not contacting the pad, there are no wires connecting my phone to the wall, it is simply sitting on my desk. Does that fit your definition of wireless? do you count something touching the phone that is touching the pad as a wire?

    • It’s Me

      Yes, of course something touching the phone that is touching the wire is wired. The wire from your cable don’t touch your phone. It it requires a physical connection between the wire and the device, then it’s not wireless.

      With the example of the mac charging station, that logic only works if your phone is required to be touching the table. If it doesn’t, then logic gymnastics fail. if you phone can remain in your pocket or jacket or in your purse and still receive a charge…wireless.

      Try this for a week. Leave your phone on top of your router. Don’t use it unless it is sitting on the router. Tape it down in that helps. See if you think of it as a wireless device after a week. If that contact was required, no one would call that wireless. No one. Well, not if they were being honest.

      You claim you find it ridiculous to argue over this, yet you are the one that jumped in, two days late, wanting to argue over it. Not well, but wanting to all the same.

    • FlamesFan89

      Also, you completely mis-represent what is said in that comment you quoted. You are presenting it as the person saying that it is good enough and that it does not need to be improved, nor should it be.

      The person said, and you even highlighted this part, that “it great as is”. That does not mean it is good enough. Just because a product is great relative to the past, doesn’t mean that it is “good enough” and should never be improved. Also, the person pointed out that better battery life would also solve the problem, and would make the need to be constantly charging moot. Again, this does not fit your narrative of it being “good enough” and thou shalt not improve! It is a statement that with better battery life, there would be no need to have your phone constantly charging as you walk around with it. If you could charge that way? well, he made no comment on that, other than, it being unnecessary in the context of better battery life.

      Whatever fits your narrative of the poor abused Apple though.

    • It’s Me

      Nope. Completely accurate representation. Laer’s response to my assertion that it could be improved, was to disagree with that and claim that it was already great.

      “It could be improved”.
      ” I disagree, it’s already great”.

      Poor abused Apple is fine on their own. It’s just funny watching you all twist and turn and make up excuses as long as it’s Apple. It’s a fascinating from a psychological perspective.

    • FlamesFan89

      It’s interesting that you think I’m twisting and turning making up excuses.

      I’ve said that wireless charging is wireless, and that it can, and likely will see improvements. You seem to take issue with that.

      As for his “I disagree” it could easily be interpreted as him disagreeing with your assertion that wireless charging isn’t wireless, despite the fact that there is indeed no wire connecting your phone to the thing charging it.

    • It’s Me

      Exactly. wireless charging is wireless charging, even if it means a wire running to your phone and making physical contact, whether through a plug or a plate, it’s all wireless if we call it wireless. And therefore a solution that no longer requires a wire to make physical contact with your phone, though a plug or a plate, is no improvement.

      Believe me, I fully understand the logically gymnastics you are using. I’ve seen it over and over for more decades. If you can deny the difference then you can deny the improvement. Simple.

    • FlamesFan89

      No gymnastics here. But you seem quite good at them.

      Just out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on non-Apple companies developing this, and releasing it to market before Apple. Personally, I don’t care, but I’m interested to know what you think.

    • It’s Me

      I think it would be awesome. It wouldn’t affect me, since I am well entrenched in the Apple ecosystem, but I can see the advantages. It would be one of the times that i’d be jealous of my Android-using friends. And if they did so and Apple never did it, I’d still appreciate the technology behind true wireless charging that doesn’t tether the phone to a pad or plug.

    • FlamesFan89

      meh, me, I wouldn’t be jealous of others, Android or Apple. My phone easily lasts all day, basically every day. It’s rare that I have to charge mid-day, and when I do, my phone charges crazy fast.

      Seems neat, and I can see people liking it, but it really doesn’t affect me at all.

      It was fun watching you try to make up my opinion though. That was entertaining as hell.

    • FlamesFan89

      Quote from @ItsTheRealMe:disqus:

      “the general definition of wireless is no physical contact.”

      So then, by your way of thinking, wired, is simply physical contact? I challenge you to put together a computer and just set the power supply on top of the motherboard. That should be good enough. While you are at it, why don’t you wire your house and just leave the sheathing on the romex and just tape it to the electrical outlets, or perhaps the studs, after all, that counts as wired right? I mean, there is physical contact there.

    • It’s Me

      Wow. No, that’s another logic fail. Just because wireless implies no physical contact, it doesn’t follow that simple physical contact means wired. Massive logic fail.

      You’re trying so hard. It’s cute.

    • FlamesFan89

      The funny thing is, I’m not trying at all, I’m just having fun with you.

    • It’s Me

      Well, that certainly might help explain the weakness of your position or rather, how you are presenting it.

    • FlamesFan89

      You are high-larious

  • I, for one, look forward to apple’s new invention; wireless charging.

    • Victor Creed

      Looks like you’re already full up on their Kool-Aid.

    • downhilldude

      A thumbs-up for sarcasm…

    • Brad Fortin

      *Pad-free wireless charging.

    • FlamesFan89

      “Pad-free”
      There’s a joke in there somewhere, but I’m not sure it would adhere to the conduct policy. 😉

    • Brad Fortin

      “GET IT? BECAUSE A PAD IS ANOTHER TERM FOR A SANITARY NAPKIN? CLASSIC!”

    • FlamesFan89

      Whoa dude, off base. That’s not what I was thinking at all. Where in the world did that come from?

    • Brad Fortin

      Oh, sorry, since the iPad came out people still haven’t given up that joke, I thought you were pilling onto it.

    • FlamesFan89

      I’d forgotten about that.

  • Rumble and Sway

    Cue the haters.

  • Omar

    As if putting your phone in your front pocket wasn’t bad enough. Apple users might run into a bit of trouble making iBabies in the future lol

  • “Apple has stated in the past that the company is not interested in
    releasing wireless-charging solutions that still require something to be
    plugged in.”

    Ok, if they can manage to actually create something where you have to never plug ANYTHING in, then I’ll eat crow on this. So they are basically saying that you will never have to plug ANYTHING in because that is what all the Apple fans are upset about because you actually have to plug a mat in so it’s not really wireless. If apple is going to follow through, you should be able to buy yourself an iPhone and it should recharge itself because you will not need any wires. If you do have to plug something in, then they are going to look stupid for making this claim and the people stating that Apple is going to up the game are going to look pretty stupid.