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Update: New iPhone will include a fingerprint scanner, will be called the “Touch ID sensor”

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Apple is poised to revolutionize the smartphone world once again.

Although the fingerprint scanning technology has been present on smartphones in the past (Motorola ATRIX), Apple is reportedly banking on its influence to make the security feature widely adopted.

Apple purchased AuthenTec, a security solutions company, back in 2012 for approximately $356 million. Ever since this transaction the company has been rumoured to include a sensor that would give users another security option to access and protect their personal info within their smartphone.

The big unveiling of the next-generation iPhone will happen tomorrow and joining the security train is the Wall Street Journal. According to their ‘people familiar with the matter,’ Apple “will include a fingerprint scanner on the more expensive of two iPhones it is expected to unveil Tuesday at an event at its Cupertino, Calif., headquarters.” Various leaks, plus the leaked retail packaging, have pointed towards this fingerprint scanner being placed under the home button.

The complete list of specs of the iPhone 5S is only hours away…


Update: According to a document posted on Nowhereelse.fr, Apple will launch the ‘iPhone 5S’ and it will be embedded within the home button. This fingerprint sensor will reportedly be called the “Home Button/Touch ID sensor”.


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Source: WSJ
Via: The Verge

  • Mike Blondin

    How useless.

    • Richard Xing

      Not exactly. If it can log into accounts and such with just a swipe of your finger on the home button, then it would actually be useful.

    • Dimitri

      True but remember, if you crack the glass or break the home button, good luck trying to access the phone. Did you ever think of that? If water gets into the home button, there goes the fingerprint scanner as it will damage UNLESS Apple somehow water proofs it which i doubt.

      I have tested the most high end fingerprint scanners on devices / laptops & home security & was able to some how break them / get into them with just a few little things.

      I have a buddy which does this work to test them out, that is how i was able to see it as well.

    • Richard Xing

      I’m pretty sure there would be a pin just in case the fingerprint sensor fails.

    • Dimitri

      Even then, it will make the whole fingerprint sensor useless if you break it & have to use a pin. Correct? That means you will have to travel to Apple, get them to replace the phone, restore the phone & back to the way you were. Seems like a waste of time to me.

      Great feature but useless.

    • Richard Xing

      Apple will most likely use a sapphire crystal home button to prevent the fingerprint sensor from breaking.

    • Dimitri

      We shall see. Even then, its pretty easy to break it. Apple uses it on their camera’s on the iPhone. I have looked up & so many have had cracks & even shattered to pieces when dropping the iPhone on the lens.

      We shall see tomorrow tho.

    • Richard Xing

      Sapphire crystal is very close to diamond in terms of hardness, and I’m pretty sure the iPhones that you saw were pre-iPhone 5.

    • Dimitri

      Nope. Go to your local Apple store & ask how many cases that Apple gets about the Camera lens which cracks or shatters. They will tell you plenty. Call & ask Eatons center, Yorkdale & SQ all in GTA. I have seen iPhone 5′s at the apple stores with this issue. It depends on how you drop them & where it drops.

    • Richard Xing

      Not as bad as a camera bulge like on the S4. (not saying that the S4 is bad)

    • Dimitri

      Its true. I have seen the Lumia 920 & S4 have issues plenty of times. On the Rogers Community forums, i have seen many complain about the camera on the S4 & Lumia 920 breaking & not working properly.

    • Richard Xing

      So I guess the conclusion we’ve come to is that all things break.

    • Dimitri

      Exactly. Everything breaks no matter what you put on it. The only thing that will not break is diamond in which no one will use lol.

    • Jonathan Schmitt

      I can confirm this. I worked for an Apple Premium Reseller. And, after broken screens of course, the home button was the second biggest issues on ANY iPhone.

      It would either stick, break or just stop working for no reason. You would be surprised how many iPhone 5 units came into the store.

    • Dimitri

      Thank you for confirming this. Its funny how people claim the home button is solid & does not break or stick but in reality they have no clue what they are saying.

      I go to the Apple store at Eatons center fairly once a week or so as i have a few friends working there. They have told me the same stories & i have seen it as well. The home button on any device breaks but the Apple one sticks & has issues more then anything.

    • Jonathan Schmitt

      Yup its true. Of course other phones have their own issues. But the point of this argument is the home button :)

    • superfly

      The button is touch only. It does not depress.

    • Dimitri

      Hmm 9to5mac has been saying its a actual button. The leaked box images show a button, not touch…

    • philnolan3d

      another excuse to increase the price.

    • philnolan3d

      From my experience you’ll have to exchange it at apple a few times anyway.

    • Rio

      I am pretty sure your phone will become useless if you break the screen or have it water damaged.

    • Dimitri

      I am using the Xperia Z so water damage will not accure. As for screen breaking? Yes it will become useless as well.

      My point still stand valid tho. The home button on the iPhone breaks real easy if u press it really hard down and its been a known issue with Apple. l

    • Andrew_notPorC

      Fingerprint scanning is not particularly secure. I’m sure it will be compromised almost immediately.

    • Bri

      why not?

    • Dimitri

      Do some research to find out why. Like i said in my previous posts, i have tested the most high end fingerprint scanners on locks / doors / safes / phones / laptops & other devices. I was able to take my fingerprint from a scotch tape & add it on the scanner, i was able to access the device.

      Then you can still trick the device thinking you have a finger on the scanner meanwhile you do not. Many ways to hack into things like this.

    • Bri

      I see but I think the focus is rather more on the easiness of authentication. I think I remember seeing some video on logging in to various websites (email and such) just by scanning your fingerprint. It looked so quick and easy. I’d definitely use it if it was an option on my phone. I’m sure it will only be an option so people don’t have to use it.

    • alphs22

      No one would want to type on touchscreens, they say. Typing on physical keys is so much faster.

      Retina is a gimmick, they say. No one needs that high of resolution on such a small screen.

      Every year the new iPhone is always doubted. Yet year after year when Apple release a new iPhone, people watch, people listen, and people buy. And then the industry follows.

      I don’t even use an iPhone (S3 for me) and I’m willing to bet fingerprint scanners are gonna make its way to Android and Windows phones by next year. Bet you won’t be singing the same tune then.

    • xxXXxx

      Respect. An android user that doesn’t see Apple as an evil maker! You can prefer android, you don’t have to hate the competition for that. And btw, usually, when Apple do something, they test it correctly and they put a lot of time in it; it just work.

      Using an iPhone 5 AND a nexus 4 AND a Galaxy S4. Even if my androids can do more thing (customization wise cause i don’t game), I love my iPhone for it’s reliability and fluidity. Not to say the apps look more polished on iOS.

      Anyways, can’t wait to see what club Cupertino brings tomorrow.

    • badtaco

      Fandroids won’t ever know this as they’re heads are too far up their widgets to have a peek out and see what a well rounded product can do.

    • xxXXxx

      Exactly! Give them 18 cores Galaxy S7, we’ll take overall quality! No hate :p But on this site, only android fans give they’re opinion. It’s good to ear Apple clients a bit!

    • badtaco

      The silly thing as I use both android and apple devices equally. IPhone 5 and iPad 4, HTC one and nexus 7. All devices are great in their own rights, but for the best overall experience apple owns hands/down.

    • Thr1ve

      They put a lot of time into testing and everything just works? Really? The antenna issue with the iPhone 4, that just worked? Siri? That just works as well? Apple Maps? They just worked perfectly too, right? Now lets list some general issues, shall we? Overheating issues on many models (3G, 4, 5), camera issues (3G, 4, 4S, 5), faulty home and power buttons, light leakage, WiFi issues, build quality issues, signal issues with LTE, battery life, speaker issues, bluetooth issues, GPS issues, sound issues among other problems… Those all “just worked” too, right?

    • philnolan3d

      My iphone was pure junk, had to exchange it 3 times and it still wasn’t right.

    • Rio

      lol, what he meant was. Apple is much better at implementing something like this than other manufactures. Rest assured you will see a fingerprint sensor on the Galaxy line next year.

    • Thr1ve

      We’ve already seen fingerprint scanners on Android before… It’s not something revolutionary or new regardless of what Apple or anyone else says…

    • Stalemate

      My “old” Motorola Atrix 4G agrees with that statement.

    • Stu Pid

      Don’t forget the factory in China that’s slowly killing local residents from the toxic fumes.

    • icyhotonmynuts

      “they test it correctly and they put a lot of time in it; it just work”

      Just like the iPhone 4 signal degradation debacle, right? You have signal loss because you’re not holding the phone “correctly”.

    • danbob999

      Retina is a gimmick. You don’t invent a new word for a display that contain marginally more pixels than what the competition already had (848*480 is still 2/3 of 960×640). That being said high resolution displays is not a gimmick.
      Fingerprint scanners were already used on Android phones in the past so Apple will not inovate if they include it. But obviously the media will tell that this is a revolution again and iFans will beleive it.
      Apple is following on a lot of thins these days:
      -proper multitasking
      -larger displays
      -higher resolution displays
      -faster CPUs, more RAM
      -camera flash
      -notification center
      -LTE
      -wifi hotspot
      -etc.
      Apple is no longer the innovator it was during the original iPhone until the iPhone 3GS days.

    • Thr1ve

      Fingerprint scanners have already been included on Android phones (Motorola Atrix)… It’s nothing new for smartphones, hell, even PDA’s had them over a decade ago.

    • alphs22

      Mp3 players were not a new thing when the iPod came out. The iPhone wasn’t even the first touch screen phone. The iPad wasn’t even the first tablet. Apple TV wasn’t the first media player for the TV. Time Capsule wasn’t the first network backup storage. Macbooks weren’t the first laptops. iTunes store wasn’t the first online media distribution store. So on and so forth.

      Yet all these things sell really well – then the industry tries to imitate.

      You’re right, a lot of the things Apple comes up with are nothing new. But it hardly matters. Where they excel, and arguably still unmatched, is the execution. They make products that work well and easy to use – hence why they sell well.

      Not to mention their announcements carry a lot more weight because come tomorrow afternoon, people would be able to buy or pre-order these things right away, and most would get it within a week or so. Compare this to when Samsung, HTC, Sony, or any other manufacturer announce a product and when they actually have their products available for sale.

    • philnolan3d

      Remember, apple didn’t invent the ipod either.

    • icyhotonmynuts

      You know what else they (phones) had before the iPhone? Cut & Paste. Apparently that was a revolutionary thing when the iPhone came out – cut and freakin’ paste.

    • Samuel Gomez Recuero

      You have to give them credit when credit is due. the first iPhone was a revolution and having a phone doing those simple tasks back then was something new for a phone. Ever since the iPhone4 with its Retina display they have fail somewhat at innovating, but it still remains tha the iPhone like or not is a great phone.

    • Stu Pid

      haha I remember that, seems everytime Apple reveals something “new” on the iPhone, it’s like omg what an awesome invention- only to realize it’s already been done before.

    • icyhotonmynuts

      Finger print scanners were already on Android phones (as the article stated in the first paragraph). It didn’t go anywhere.

      Finger print scanners were in laptops and desktop PC peripherals too..again, that didn’t go anywhere.

    • alphs22

      And now they’re about to go somewhere.

    • icyhotonmynuts

      Yeah, straight onto the NSA database. To create the largest name to fingerprint identification in history.

    • alphs22

      Maybe take off your tinfoil hat.

    • icyhotonmynuts

      Well one thing is for sure, if the revealing of these features were such a good thing, Apple’s stock wouldn’t have dropped by 2%+ yesterday.

    • alphs22

      The drop was because analysts’ didn’t like the 5C’s price, which is too high to capture marketshare in emerging countries and in the midrange segment. That I agree with, since it was a huge missed opportunity. However that has nothing to do with the feature set of the 5S, since it’s an “S” year and everyone already knows it would be minor changes to the iPhone – changes that have been thoroughly leaked over the last couple weeks.

      Do you even read the news or just spew out nonsense that fit your biased point of view?

    • icyhotonmynuts

      Are you such a narcissist that you can’t handle a bit of debate or difference in opinion? The only one that seems top have a problem here is you.

    • alphs22

      First you’re paranoid about the NSA even when they announced that fingerprint data will only be stored locally.

      Then you randomly move onto Apple’s drop in stock price, for which I pointed out was more correlated to the 5C’s pricing rather than the feature set of the 5S.

      And now you seem to be complaining about what exactly? Me engaging your points and proving you wrong?

      I believe I’m handling your incorrect assertions just fine, thanks. My apologies for getting you all butthurt.

    • icyhotonmynuts

      Apology accepted. See? Admitting defeat wasn’t that hard after all :)

    • erereet

      to be honest, they didnt go anywhere cause regular people didn’t need that feature (and im not sure that they do right now either, its just going to be a feature that sounds nice but useless). im sure the government liked it tho.

    • philnolan3d

      You mean like how apple rips off Android ideas every year? That’s how the industry follows?

    • Andrew_notPorC

      No one needs a 5 inch screen…. *crickets*

    • alphs22

      Jobs is dead. Have some decency and give it a rest.

    • Stu Pid

      I’m actually shocked that smartphones are getting bigger, shouldn’t they be getting compact and more advanced instead? I feel like these new 5″ and larger phablets are going back to the days of the BRICK PHONES. Smartphones around 2009-2011 were just the “perfect size”, the Dell Streak which was 5″ looked stupid at the time but looks like a little brother now compared to the new devices.

      I barely have room in my pant pocket for my 4.8″ HTC One X.

    • Andrew_notPorC

      That’s the great thing about the market and choice. If you want a 4 inch phone, go and buy one. But sales seem to indicate that people want decent sized screens. If you want something tiny, maybe the iWatch is for you.

    • Stu Pid

      Smartphones were 3.2-3.7″ for a few years with the exception of a few 4.0-4.2″ ones and of course the 5″ Streak, you can’t find a phone smaller than a 4″ now and the new HTC One Mini isn’t exactly a mini, it’s 4.3″.

    • Andrew_notPorC

      Trust me, if there was a market for it, Samsung would make phones that size. This is Samsung, that has like 9 different size devices. Apple tells consumers what they want, and if they want other choices–too bad. A big chunk of Apple’s market share loss is because they refused to offer a larger iPhone.

    • JV

      Ummmmm Would like to Pint out that there was already and Android Phone that had a finger print scanner years ago. It was Called the “Motorola ATRIX 4G”. So the statement that implies that Apple came out with this idea of a finger print scanner first and there for everyone else will follow suit is not entirely correct (just the idea, not the general principle). Because so few people actual take or took notice of previous non apple phones, people will harold this phone as inovative, and people will likely want this faeture now that it is on such a popular phone, and YES we will see more finger print scanners make there way to Android and Windows phones. The principle and idea is correct, just not the over all details.

    • alphs22

      “So the statement that implies that Apple came out with this idea of a finger print scanner first and there for everyone else will follow suit is not entirely correct (just the idea, not the general principle).”

      I said this in another post, but Apple’s strength is in execution. While the idea may not be theirs, they tend to be the ones who “get it right” and implement it correctly. This is their strength and where they lead. Others have tried before, but Apple seems to bring out the best in the technology.

      I can see this fingerprint scanner being another layer of security when you’re using your phone to pay with NFC… fingerprint to unlock the phone… fingerprint to input password… etc.

      I’m willing to bet that within the next year, we’re going to see Samsung, HTC, and Sony following their lead and putting fingerprint sensors.

    • JV

      Agreed

    • Stu Pid

      Unfortunately phones with physical keyboards are slowly vanishing, I personally type MUCH faster and accurately on a hardware keyboard than an onscreen keyboard (aside the stupid auto correct), but I have gotten used to onscreen keyboards. If I were to go back to Blackberry, I’d pick up the Q10 in a heartbeat.

      I had a Motorola Charm for a short while, one of the worst devices I’ve laid hands on, but it had a hardware keyboard.

    • erereet

      so looking at the iphone 5, the home button is pretty small, so does that mean that the fingerprint scanner will only be able to scan part of your fingerprint? if so, then you have to carefully match up the part of your finger that you scanned each time. i can see that being a pain, oh i put my finger down 2cm too far to the right and the phone doesnt read it.

    • Liberal Phone Person

      lol, how fat are your fingers?

    • Dimitri

      You do realize that 50% of humans have big fingers?. I guess you do not pay attention to that. Not many have skinny little fingers you know. So for someone that has a big thumb, it may be hard.

    • Liberal Phone Person

      2cm. grab a ruler and you’ll get the joke.

    • CADDMan71

      “Apple is poised to revolutionize the smartphone world once again……Although the fingerprint scanning technology has been present on smartphones in the past…”
      Hey, Mobilesyrup, way to contradict yourself in the span of 2 paragraphs.

  • Aydreean

    poll: do you think the iphone 5s will be aws compatible in canada?

    • Tom

      An AWS variant of the iPhone 5 already exists – it just took quite a while to release after the non-AWS variant did. If you get an iPhone 5 from the apple store or from T-Mobile USA after a certain date (I’m not sure, I think it’s March 2013), then it has AWS support – in other words it works on Wind!

      Thus, I think it’s reasonable to assume we WILL have an AWS variant of the 5S and/or 5C – just maybe not right at launch?

    • Canucks

      It will be AWS compatible but will it have LTE? That’s the thing people don’t get. Having iPhone 5 or 5s without LTE is like driving a Ferrari with cheap gasoline.

    • Tom

      You’d be surprised how many people bought the Nexus 4 which didn’t officially have LTE (the hack to enable it only worked in North America anyway). Lots of people are happy with HSPA+ speeds. Plus, if you have a plan with a low data cap, chances are you’ll spend much of your time connected to Wi-Fi, i.e. at work and at home.

      Besides, the only AWS carriers in Canada do not have LTE, so it doesn’t make a difference for Canadians wishing to use the iPhone with Wind/Mobi. Even T-Mobile doesn’t have LTE ready in much of the US.

    • TheOnlyAdvantageToLiveInQuebec

      I think it depends of the deal that Apple have with T-Mobile.

    • Aydreean

      i hope it comes out on launch. been waiting for it for so long

  • Dimitri

    I find it useless. Like i posted on 9to5mac, the fingerprint scanner can easily break & damage. I have seen so many people break their home button by pressing it down hard. So if they are adding this on the phone button, people will complain because its breaking.

    Also its easy to get into a device with a fingerprint scanner. Motorola that had it, i was able to get into the phone when i had the setting to scan my fingerprint. Same with my laptop at work. Remember water can get into the scanner unless the waterproof it as well.

    So all in all, give it a few days after the phone is released, watch how many people will complain about it!. This is going to be another ” iPhone 4 antenna” & “iPhone 5 maps app” problem.

    • Richard Xing

      You can’t say anything about a feature that hasn’t been officially announced.

    • Dimitri

      That is correct BUT from past experience & owning products with fingerprint scanning technology, it is EASY to hack into & if water hits it, good luck. Its damaged then. So even tho the feature is not out yet, i can still claim my post is valid.

      Also this ” Feature” has been leaked out by many within the past couple of months. If its NOT a fingerprint scanner, then i will post back & give my apologizes, but if it is, my post is still valid.

    • Richard Xing

      I’m not saying your post is invalid. I’m saying that you don’t know anything about this fingerprint sensor feature wise or hardware wise, like Apple might put a sapphire crystal covering on the home button to prevent breaking.

    • badtaco

      He’s a mouthpiece for bbry, and as so will argue to high hell anything that improves upon any features he may be stuck with on those “other” platforms. If this was released for bb, he’s be shilling it all the way into next week. And so go the lives of those types.

    • philnolan3d

      A fancy cover on the button doesn’t mean it won’t break. They can’t make the entire thing out of sapphires.

    • vistarox

      The only reason people are complaining is because it’s Apple. If we were talking about the Nexus 5, all the top comments would be about how wonderful and revolutionary the product is.

      Personally as an android user I’m happy that Apple is brining this great innovation to the table.

    • Dimitri

      I would complain & say the same thing on any device. I even said it on some other forum when the Atrix came out. Its useless. Not everyone which complains are talking about Apple..

      Its not even a innovation AS other phones have done it before & if you see history, you will see the Motorola Atrix 4G did it.

    • Canucks

      Well as long as there’s option to turn this feature off then I am good.

    • Dimitri

      If the could add that feature then it would be nice. As long as the fingerprint scanner is not always on. Remember that drains battery as well

  • ineptone

    I don’t think anyone is expecting anything amazing or “magical” from the imminent iteration of the iPhone. The only thing that is for certain is more disappointment.

  • Nathaniel James

    Get NFC. THEN WE’LL TALK.

    • Dimitri

      Reports & leaks have shown that the iPhone 5 will indeed have NFC. NOW its a leak & rumors. We should find out tomorrow.

    • Richard Xing

      Why do you want NFC?

  • Alex

    “Apple is poised to revolutionize the smartphone world once again.”

    No Ian. Just no.

    • Scazza

      For once we agree about something.

    • Liberal Phone Person

      myth busters did an episode on hacking fingerprint scanners. turns out a photocopy of the users’ hand will fool it.

    • Liberal Phone Person

      myth busters did an episode on hacking fingerprint scanners. turns out a photocopy of the users’ hand will fool it.

    • Andrew_notPorC

      When you consider that a fingerprint scanner is probably intended to protect you from nosy spouses/SOs/family rather than strangers who steal your phone, there’s a good chance they already have your fingerprint all over the place. Even if someone steals your phone… there’s a good chance your fingerprint is on the phone. On a glass surface just begging to be lifted…

    • Dimitri

      EXACTLY!!. Someone watching CSI / Law & Order or other shows like this OR even researching it, can easily take your fingerprints right off the phone & add it on the sensor..

  • Super_Deluxe

    No Apple, this will not even make your followers upgrade.

  • WhoCares1000

    I can see high returns or a quick OS patch to fix scanner problems.

    • badtaco

      Apple isn’t Google. They don’t force users to be beta testers.

    • MXH070

      I disagree apple users ARE beta testers iPhone 3 iPhone 4 iPhone 5.

    • badtaco

      Happy beta testers then, since the phone weren’t garbage or released with major hardware flaws. Cough, nexus, cough.

    • MXH070

      Ok let’s start with the 3. ( over. Heating, wifi issues, cellular connection issues, camera issues, keyboard issues. Now 4 cellular connection issues, random freezing up, random power down, email issues with Gmail, Hotmail, outlook, camera problems again, siri. Now for 5. Apple maps, camera issues, battery, build quality, light leakage, home button not working, wifi issues, over heating, unresponsive screen, screen flickering, power button not working,date. And time bug… I’m only listing a few from each device anyone that knows apple know only to buy the the S model as the beta testing has already been done.

    • BR

      Can’t forget the security bypass with the password on lock screen!

    • icyhotonmynuts

      *cough*, iPhone 4 antenna debacle *cough* Apple maps *cough* camera purple halo *cough* Siri *wheeze* *hork*

    • WhoCares1000

      MobileMe, iOS 6 Maps, iCloud, iOS 1 thru 3, …

    • badtaco

      We were talking hardware no?

    • WhoCares1000

      Piece and parcel. For the hardware to work properly you need software.
      Like I mentioned, Apple will have a high return on this iPhone because of the scanner or release a software patch to fix the problems with it. In the end Apple will probably say “you’re scanning it wrong” but we’ll see. I still think a fingerprint scanner on an smartphone is useless. Too many things that can go wrong.

    • Thr1ve

      Siri, Apple Maps, iCloud, MobileMe etc… Need I go on? These (among others) were all in beta when released to the public. Hell, Siri is STILL in beta, 3 years after it was “released”, and it still works like complete garbage, the only updates they’ve done to Siri is give it “humorous” responses to the “Okay Glass” command… Now THAT’S innovation!

    • Scazza

      SIRI has been in “beta” for 2 years. Apple Maps has been in beta for a year… what?

  • KrispyInTO

    Great now we have to listen to all these people saying its revolutionary and no one has done it before ect.

  • Brice Johnson

    Had this on my Atrix 4G. Who honestly cares about fingerprint scanning…

  • BR

    Welcome to the Atrix 4G… My OLD 3 year old phone. Which had a fingerprint scanner…. Which is old tech… Which apple will call “innovation”…. For something that’s been done, and you know, old…Oh lord.

    • badtaco

      That phone was nothing more than a fugly pos. Of course no one knows about it. They don’t care either.

    • Thr1ve

      And yet, it completely destroyed the iPhone in its time… Not only was it the first Android smartphone with a fingerprint scanner, it was also one of the very first dual core smartphones, the very first smartphone to use the Tegra 2 chipset, one of the very first smartphone which allowed 1080P video recording, the first smartphone which offered the Webtop platform, where you plugged it into a dock in which you could plug in a keyboard, mouse and monitor to access a Ubuntu based desktop. There was also a laptop dock (all in one display, keyboard, touchpad and huge battery in a laptop form factor) which allowed you to use the Ubuntu desktop while on the go, not to mention you could use the lapdock to charge your phone if you needed it… I could go on and on… But I think you get the idea…

      The Atrix was the definition of innovation when it was released, something Apple hadn’t done (and still hasn’t done) since the original iPhone. It was far from an “ugly pos”, it surpassed both the iPhone 4 (which was already on the market) and the iPhone 4S (which was released 9 months after the Atrix), only with the iPhone 5 did Apple finally catch up to the Atrix.

  • badtaco

    You’re nothing but a little azz clown who thinks he knows everything. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you don’t know jack.

    • Dimitri

      If you want, i can give you my work address & you can come say all this to my face, lets see if you can actually say this in front of someones face instead of talking trash / insulting others over a computer screen.

      I do not know jack? Hmm it seems yet again the troll is wrong. Get your facts straight before claiming things you have no clue what you are even talking about or trying to insult someone.

    • badtaco

      I wouldn’t want to embarrass you in front of your peers, and besides I’m retired. I made my money back in the last 2 decades supporting this crap and now I no longer have to work.

    • Russ Pottle

      I will say it to your face you little pissant …..gimme address

    • Dimitri

      I work at the Exchange tower in Toronto right beside the BMO tower. 34th floor. Come there and lets see if u can be a tough guy face to face

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  • Allan

    A fingerprint scanner may be interesting, but it

    1) does not warrant a Top Story standing
    2) is no where near as amazing as the iPad 4′s GPU perf when it first came out
    3) does not warrant an upgrade from the iPhone 5 to the 5S
    4) is probably far from useful enough to start another Apple vs Google fanboy debate below.

  • Thr1ve

    Seriously, what’s the big deal here? It’s only a fingerprint scanner, it’s not like it’s something we’ve never seen before on a smartphone… Yet everyone acts as if Apple invented biometric scanning technology and were the first to include it on a smartphone.

    The iPhone’s fingerprint scanner will be just as useless as it was on every other phone that had it which was released on the market, much like face unlock, it’s nothing but a gimmick.

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  • disqus_5AKNsW3h0N

    Motorola tried this years ago with the Atrix. This has already been done. Apple having a finger print isn’t revolutionary..

    • Richard Xing

      When did anyone say it was?

    • disqus_5AKNsW3h0N

      Look at the first sentence.

    • Richard Xing

      I think that’s a joke.

    • disqus_5AKNsW3h0N

      I’m sure it is just like when Apple revolutionize the smartphone with Face time which basically is video calling. Without Steve Apple is lost.

  • Sidney R.

    You will see that it will be a lot easier to find anyone involved in a crime by simply matching their fingerprint with their data base :)

  • L33tMasta

    It’s cute how all the Android fanboys come out whenever there’s a new iPhone being announced. They cry about how it’s useless and yet still, the iPhone continues to outsell every other handset available. Cry all you want, but your phone will always be second rate compared to an iPhone. I don’t care how many people disagree on here, it’s one of the reasons I can’t stand reading the comments on this site anymore. People ignorantly commenting when they know nothing about the actual industry or the hardware.

    • marorun1982

      IPhone 5 look was awesome easily one of the best Looking phone ever. The interface is simple and intuitive. That’s been said it do not worth the price. It’s far from a premium device like the HTC one or Sony Z device.
      They don not only have a nice look but also functionality and capacity apple phone don’t. I am not talking about flash but ability to open webpage like they supposed to look. Real options for taking picture and modifying them with no need of third party software. Ability to put movie , music and others files directly to the device (just like a sub stick) ability to check movie from almost all file type not only crappy mp4. On a last note a real premium device is not one everyone have or we would see Ferrari every street corner.

    • Dimitri

      I could say the same exact comment about iSheeps that comment on other pages about Android, whats your point? I could also say how Apple went $700 last year and back down to $450-500 with a couple of months. I could also say the f**k ups Apple has had. IPhone 4 antenna issue in which they claimed we were holding it wrong. LOL…. Then last year with the IOS 6 maps which basically killed and made cities look like s**t.

      I can say the same about the S4 and HTC One and about BlackBerry too. Doss this make me a Android fanboy?… Get out.

    • Samuel Gomez Recuero

      I just don’t like how they advertised the iPhone5, Everyone knows that if you make the phone thiner but at the same time longer that the final result is not smaller. the 5 has the same overall size, Just that the size is now on the other side (height) and not the other (wide).

    • B-Mac

      “iPhone continues to outsell every other handset available. Cry all you want, but your phone will always be second rate compared to an iPhone” – the easy answer to this is that is because there are more i****s in the world then educated and informed, and by your second rate comment you might be just one of those i****s. fact is Android phones have multiple premium flagship devices to choose from, so a Android flagship will never outsell a iPhone right now because the Android customer base has to many options to choose from unlike the iSheep who are all funneled into one choice. The beauty of Android is everyone can find a phone that fits there needs, Phablet? Flagship? Mid Range? a phone for every persons needs.

  • philnolan3d

    meh

  • Samuel Gomez Recuero

    To me the addition of the fingerprint reader is just a gimmick. Don’t get me wrong I do believe the apple ecosystem is still ahead of the android one but the gap in apps is closing and closing fast. The only plus that the iphone clearly keep is the ability to take great pictures with a telephone and build quality materials, but that for the past few iterations have been missing some keys technologies that others have had for a few years now, NFC and LTE comes into mind.

    The fingerprint reader is nothing more than a way for Apple to keep the prices high in a world where every single manufacturer is always trying to make the phone making processs better and cheaper.

    • B-Mac

      iPhone pictures are pretty crappy….especially to flagship Android phones, my HTC One X takes better pictures then the iPhone 5.

    • Thr1ve

      “I do believe the apple ecosystem is still ahead of the android”

      How so? What does iOS offer that Android doesn’t? Apps aren’t an excuse anymore, both platforms have apps that the other doesn’t have… You’ve already mentioned a couple things Android offers over iOS, and I’ll correct you about photos and videos, most Android phones released in the last few years take excellent photos, some of which take even better photos than the iPhone 4/4S/5. Build quality isn’t all that great, just because Apple uses glass and aluminum doesn’t mean iPhones have a better build quality, especially when the glass they use breaks so easily, the finish flakes/rubs/scratches/chips off easily, the aluminum used is easily scratched, chipped and dented and the fact that many iPhones have come damaged directly from the factory says a lot about Apple’s so called “superior build quality”… Not to mention the fact that Apple now uses a cheaper manufacturer…

      The iPhone and iOS has been lagging behind Android phones in almost every way for years, and it looks like it’s not about to change anytime soon.

  • beyond

    one major flaw and also why fingerprint type scanners haven’t taken off for consumers — you can’t change your fingerprint if someone hacks your print. so IMO this is a fail

  • hyperhyper

    Apple: Innovating like it’s 1999.

  • Deviat0r

    Honestly, who cares about a finger print scanner. Most laptops today come with them and a very small percentage of people actually utilize this feature.

  • Stu Pid

    Face recognizing unlock and fingerprint scans aren’t very popular for a reason, I had a Sony laptop that I unlocked with swiping my finger over the sensor, it wasn’t 100% reliable. And with face unlocks, people that has a picture of you can unlock with it.

    • Dimitri

      I can not express how much i agree with you. I have been saying this on post here & on 9to5mac but people think its not true.

      Face recognizing isn’t really used because of that main reason. The Fingerprint scans are 80% reliable as at times it either has issues or does not recognize the fingerprint.

      You see, people do NOT think about all this.

  • Dimitri

    Wrong & Wrong. Call your local Apple store & ask how many iPhone’s ( Past & recent) have came back with a broken home button OR the button does not work & sticks.

    We have a few Apple reps on here & on 9to5mac which said the same as i did, they break easily if you press it button really hard or get some kind of liquid on it.

    • Dimitri

      But you claim ” it is less likely to break alongside with everything else when the phone hits something.”. So my comment was made towards that.

    • Dimitri

      Ahh okay!. Got you:). Still tho, i still see it having issues. Remember, people will find something to complain about & most likely that will be one of them.

  • Dimitri

    You see, try telling this to people on here tho, they will claim that you are wrong & how Apple will beat every other manufacturer to make it work 100%. Hmm past history with Apple shows a lot of wrong things at launch with the phone.

    Anyways its useless to use. Passcode will be safe for now.

  • jonnny

    Creative is the original maker of ipod-like devices. Apple has to pay Creative for every device they make. The creative devices were far superior to Apple, tho they sucked at marketing.

  • jonnny

    lol. fingerprint scanner. that is bad. people will think their phone is secure, yet every single fingerprint scanner is easily fooled by gummy bears, and even just a picture of a fingerprint. and guess what…..when your phone is stolen, i guarantee there will be a nice fingerprint on it for them to lift and use. mythbusters did a show on this, and the hardest one to fool required a picture of a fingerprint with some shiny tape over it….and thats it…

    • jonnny

      even the scanners that detect blood flow beneath the skin you can just put the photocopy of the fingerprint over your own finger and it works. lol. this is actually a negative to have on the phone. and look at how much space it takes up making the phone bigger than it needs to be.

  • robinottawa

    ANYTHING that goes onto a phone is automatically in possession of authorities forever. Just assume. I’m for horse and buggy texting.

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