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Carriers and analysts weigh in on Industry Canada’s 700MHz spectrum auction announcement


Christian Paradis, Canada’s Industry Minister, officially announced his plans for the upcoming 700MHz frequency spectrum, plus communicated changes to how Canada’s telecom foreign ownership rules will operate. Paradis stated during his speech that, “the measures I am outlining today will ensure the timely availability of world-class wireless services at low prices for Canadian families, including those in rural areas.”

The 700MHz spectrum auction will start during the first half of 2013 and will see it divided into four blocks, each representing 25% of the bandwidth. Rogers, Bell and TELUS can bid on three of these blocks, but the fourth if reserved for Canada’s smaller carriers. We reached out to various carriers yesterday and they stated the following:

Rogers: “We’ve always said a fair and open auction is the best way to ensure Canadians have access to the best and latest technology. This is an important announcement and we’re taking the time to review the decision and what it will mean for Canadians.”

WIND Mobile: “We want to be the 4th national carrier and we cannot get enough spectrum to do it. This is a catalyst for new entrant consolidation. I believe that WIND is positioned to lead that consolidation, but we will be at a structural disadvantage with respect to our LTE offering, there is not enough spectrums set aside for new entrants to roll out LTE.” – Anthony Lacavera, CEO of WIND

Mobilicity: “It’s a victory for all Canadians. This ensures that wireless competition will stay alive and stay healthy and that means consumers will get lower wireless prices, better services, and more technology faster. We will be in the auction 100% and we will bid aggressively.” – Stewart Lyons, CEO of Mobilicity

Bell: “We’re still studying the decision and don’t have comment for now.

Today, analysts and press releases have been coming out in a flurry. First, a well thought out write up by telecom consultant Mark Goldberg, he states that the announcement by Industry Canada “is a great compromise in theory, except it virtually guarantees that Canadians will not have access to the fastest mobile speeds. While LTE can operate on 10MHz of spectrum, it can operate that much better on 20MHz. In other words, Solomon went ahead and cut the baby. Another complication comes up in the middle of the country where there will be four incumbents bidding: SaskTel and MTS have been recognized to be incumbents. Long time readers will recall that this was a problem in the last auction. So, there is a high probability that new entrants will be shut out of acquiring a national network since there will be a large hole in the midwest portion of the country.”

This was followed by a report by Jeff Fan, analyst from Scotia Capital Markets, who said “the small cap on the incumbents makes it possible for the new entrants to acquire at least one prime spectrum block (10 MHz-12 MHz). This could be more likely if BCE/TELUS and RCI/MBT are considered associated, as discussed above. We believe the limited amount of prime licences available to new entrants will likely encourage Wind, Mobilicity and Public Mobile to consolidate. This will likely occur if one of them encounters financial difficulties.”

WIND Mobile CEO Tony Lacavera was quoted in several publications that they would boycott the spectrum and not bid. In a press release this morning Lacavera stated that “The announcement creates the illusion that the government has gone all-in to create a competitive wireless landscape, when they’ve only done half the job. Delivering on foreign ownership is only half of the equation. We’ve spent countless months telling the government that caps will destroy our ability to compete with the incumbents in the next auction, thereby crippling wireless competition in Canada. It’s a simple formula, without the ability to acquire 10 MHz, NO new entrant can build out LTE, which means NO new entrant can viably compete in the long term. This is a smoke and mirrors announcement designed to distract from the fact that they’ve sided with the incumbents at the expense of Canadians.”

TELUS has finally come forward with their official statement, Darren Entwistle, TELUS president and CEO, noted that “The rules established by Minister Paradis will allow all competitors to have fair and reasonable access to the critical 700 MHz spectrum in the upcoming auction. Ultimately, the wireless services built upon this spectrum will provide businesses, educators, students, health professionals and families with the tools they need to build strong, healthy and sustainable communities.”

Mobilicity has now chimed in and their press release says “Mobilicity calls spectrum auction rules a compromise for carriers and a win for consumers” and President and CEO Stewart Lyons said “The government has declared the Canadian consumer as the clear winner of this ongoing battle between new entrant and incumbent carriers. Our position has always called for full set-asides of the 700 MHz spectrum for the new entrants; and while we recognize a compromise has been made, we are confident that competition will continue for the betterment of Canadian consumers. We will definitely bid on the 700 MHz spectrum. After completing an explosive Q4 with more net new customers than all of the other new entrants and two incumbent carriers, we are now the fastest-growing carrier and need more spectrum to expand beyond our 10MHz of spectrum and introduce new platforms, like LTE which can be launched with as little as 6MHz of spectrum (3MHz x 3MHz).”

Surely we’ll see Rogers, Bell, SaskTel, Videotron and MTS all release statements today. The spectrum is estimated to bring in over $3.5 billion for the government next year.

  • Drae

    Anyone know what frequency AT&T is running their LTE? I’d be sad if different hardware / radios where required compared to the rest of the world. I like buying my international hardware and using it here.

    • Guy

      I believe Verizon and AT&T both use 700MHz. In general, AT&T is a pretty accurate match spectrum-wise for Canada. If it works there, it should work on Rogers, Bell, Telus

    • bob

      AT&T LTE is on 700 and 1700.
      Most of the world is 800, 1800 and 2600.
      Rogers and Bell plan to deploy on 700, 1700 and 2600. It will be hard to find phones supporting those 3 frequencies.

    • Adam

      ATT, Verizon and Big-3 will all be using 700, however, likely will be different bands within the 700 spectrum, meaning all devices wont’ be compatable.

    • Rational_Agent

      AT&T are deploying LTE on 700 MHz in the lower B and C blocks. Verizon is on upper C (what the Canadians are calling C1 and C2)

  • smith

    Wind is bluffing, they want to buy Mobilicity and never wanted to spend another 500 M for spectrum… What did Public Mobile had to say ?

  • JustMeAndMe

    Is Wind still complaining? They got a fair chance to get part of the spectrum and they say “not enough”?
    They slowed down their expansion, froze improvement of their current network, getting more and more expensive and they want just advantages? And on the top of this there is an announcement about foreign capital in carrier companies which was tailored for them so they should be more happy than anyone else…
    I’m just wondering whether they’ll have all country coverage till 2015 when cheap rooming agreement with Rogers expires…

    • Guy

      You need to recognize WIND was quoted months ago saying they only came here to make money, with teh head honcho going on about how he’s a telecom power in like 25 other countries. The backing behind WIND dominates all the incumbents, and WIND itself cares for nothing more than doing the same. Everything they say, all complaints, are just a smokescreen of “we thought it would be easier to streamroll over the big guys and be blew it”.

    • Rational_Agent

      1. Wind is complaining because it’s impossible to compete against companies that were given free spectrum for 20 years.

      2. Vimpelcom’s (Globalive/Wind’s financial backer) market cap is something short of $20B, while BCE alone is something in the area of $30B.

      3. It was announced that roaming was extended, and if you’re a Wind customer, you are aware that the roaming deal they have is far from “cheap”.

    • T1MB0T

      Rational Idi0t he spectrum rogers got was over 20 years ago.. in the past.. way back.. vimple dud and orascam are losing money.. look at the cost of the plans wind was a golden goose for them but they just could not deliver. go and look at the never ending list of complains and the customer service. it is clear why wind is for sale. AGAIN.

  • Simian

    Is it just me or does the antenna look like it should belong at the bottom of Cloud City?

  • Mark

    So looking at the big picture this very much appears to be an opening gambit for consolidation. There is a limit in place to hoarding but not the limit everyone wanted. The small carriers will likely now be compelled to consolidate because the 25% inaccessible to the big three isn’t enough to go around. And foreign owner ship of the small carriers has been opened up so they could potentially has access to even more capital for the auction. Looks like a compromise from all angles.

    My feeling is that the small carriers are still a little fragmented and in need of some consolidation. Between that and the added capital that foreign investors could bring in I think you will see the small (soon to be mid-sized) players capable of bidding for more than 25% available.

    Wind only has sour grapes because they are not the attractive acquisition target that others are.

    • grekoff

      The unfortunate part is that Wind should have, at some point, prepared to either sell out or acquire as possible options in its business plan.

      Wind didn’t, and now the CEO is whining big time.

      Wind is toast.

  • Alex Perrier

    i am hoping, at this point, that:
    * WIND continues to expand, so that they’ll become one of Canada’s largest carriers.
    * Mobilicity remains active in their five cities only, competing purely on price, unless merging with WIND is actually advantageous (offers better coverage, etc.).
    * Public Mobile remains a Toronto- and Montréal-only carrier, but offers competitive service plans for roaming.

    The reason i like WIND the best out of all these carriers is that they are the most social. Mobilicity and Public Mobile are very secretive on their strategies and i don’t like that. Neither has released any exciting new phones or service plans this year. They should learn from WIND. Making cartoon aliens that don’t interact with Canadians, or simply relying on “i’m cheap” to sell, doesn’t cut it anymore. If they stay that way, they just might get bought.

    • Yeria

      Industry analysts were predicting that only one of the new entrants will be left standing by 2015.

  • Tom

    “Another complication comes up in the middle of the country where there will be four incumbents bidding: SaskTel and MTS have been recognized to be incumbents. Long time readers will recall that this was a problem in the last auction. So, there is a high probability that new entrants will be shut out of acquiring a national network since there will be a large hole in the midwest portion of the country.”

    Yikes, I didn’t notice that. That is a serious problem. We really need a new national carrier.

  • keiYUI

    How much spectrum can I get for $10?

    • Unr8ted

      The size of your bedroom probably!

  • narci

    It says 25% is reserved for new incumbants but nowhere does it say the new encumbants can’t bid on the rest of the 75%.

    • Mark

      Exactly Narci. They can bid on the rest. But they can’t out-bid the big 3 who have much bigger pockets. Unless they consolidate and bring in foreign capital. THEN they can perhaps bid competitively for more than 25%.

  • uranus

    Yup, Solomon cut the baby. The spectrum will be so fragmented that no one will be able to provide a world leading national network. The new entrants only care about fast money, not about excellent service for all Canadians. 700mhz should go to one company, the highest bidder, exclusively.

    • Yeria

      Great idea. That one company can charge $80 a month for 1GB of data because they’re the only one who can offer new services. That would be so much more helpful for Canadian consumers and wireless industry.

  • chall2k5

    Wind will bid, and vimpelcom will purchase more of a stake in the company (probably not 100%, but more like 85-90) and Wind will finally get access to the capital it needs to expand faster

    • WarrenB1T

      orascom owns 100% of wind. You know it look at your paycheck you troll.

  • Dylan K

    5% of the consumer base has 25% of the bandwidth reserved? And it’s still not enough? I think that’s enough room for expansion, especially if it’s WIND obtaining most of it (one could assume, if they want to be aggressive in their offerings).

    They wanted a set aside, they got it.

    • jon

      Sure, if you want them to forever stay at 5%. So in your world, 95% of the market by Bell/Telus and Rogers is OK?

  • grekoff

    Christian Paradis got this right. Here is what I think the government is trying to accomplish:

    –Let the Big 3 carry forward…mostly…
    –Push the startups to consolidate into a formidable #4 telco that is capable of competing on price AND quality

    Let’s be honest: none of the startups have a viable path forward to build beyond regional coverage or upscale their networks. Wind/Mobilicity/Public have unattractive networks, active throttling (why is Wind’s “3G” only 2Mbps instead of 7.2Mbps like the 3G standards call out?), network congestion, and most importantly, VERY limited coverage over specific regions. No wonder the Big 3′s flanker brands have successfully fought off the new guys. Coverage matters.

    Having a solid #4 vendor that brings a competitive network to Canada will probably end up in higher rates than today, but with a coverage improvement that will justify it.

    • Alex Perrier

      Please don’t try to tell me that the Big 3 is giving out 7.2 Mbit/s speeds. WIND and Big 3 offer just about the same speeds were i live. Typical speeds in both cases are about 2 Mbit/s.

    • Guy

      2mbps isn’t throttling, you should probably go review how telecom networks work. 7.2mbps is the theoretical upper limits. That’s the “if I’m the only one using the network, and I’m standing right beside an antenna with no inter-tower interference of significance. You already mentioned congestion, that’s why you get 2mbps. More users, more congestion, less bandwidth, less speed. Data rates are directly linked to how much bandwidth a user can get hold of (and thus the whole basis of the big guys wanting 20MHz vs 10Mhz. Double band, double speed).

    • Daniel AJ

      @grekoff Consolidation is always bad for competition. Canada, sadly, is a very competition-adverse country.

      As for the network rollout: You are very mistaken, sorry. The costs of network rollout are the lower, the more spectrum one has. To have competitive new entrants, we HAVE to give them WAY more spectrum. Otherwise they can’t compete with the incumbents who have a lot of infrastructure already in place and (partly) written off.

      These 25% are too much to die but too little to live.

  • Lan

    I love wind and mobilicty’s plans. The problem they have is network coverage across Canada and North up to the ski hills. Especially in the Ottawa area, they have nothing on the Quebec Side, and nothing in the southern areas like bar haven a growing community in Ottawa. I am sure there are similar problems across Canada. If Rogers was smart, they would offer the same 40$ unlimited everything plan that both wind and Mobi have. That and a Razor Maxx type of phone with huge battery life (20 hour).

    • chall2k5

      Farrhaven has Wind coverage, I was there yesterday, its just not official (same as Peterborough and Kingston launching this summer i heard)

    • grekoff

      Mobilicity’s coverage includes the concourse of Scotiabank Place (where the Senators play), but if you’re in your seat you’ll be in a roaming zone.

    • Keith

      Wind operates on the Quebec side. I work in Gatineau. I get better reception at work than home.

  • hoo dat

    If WIND wants to survive the only door open to them is to consolidate. I’m hearing that there’s a good chance WIND will take part in the auction with further backing from VC and annihilate Mobilicity and Public in the bidding process, then pick up one or both for peanuts after the auction is all said and done.

    I don’t like it, but that’s business, I guess.

    • WarrenB1T

      Winds owner said in November they will not bid. any added money will push them into deeper water. They are losing money every year, add another 1/2 billion does not include new phones or the network upgrades so call it another billion.. nope mobli will sit back and buy them on the cheap. Unless Rogers beats them to it.

  • EvanKr

    Let’s hope that Wind continues to grow, I can’t wait to start seeing them here in Manitoba and accross the prairies.

  • Betty Koyle

    I think WIND will do just fine! Once more coverage across Canada is given (especially all of southern ontario…) I often commute from London to KW to Toronto and those spots with “roaming” just doesn’t cut it.

    Give wind another 2-3 years and it will be successful!

  • Slype

    @Mark

    I’m with Wind and I’m extremely happy. If they got bought out by Rogers or Bell, I would be gone in a second. I think most consumers feel the same way.

    Why you ask? Well, if you always get punched in the face by a particular person 5 minutes after they walk into the same room as you, are you going to stick around when they show up again? Probably not. The people doing the punching are Bell/Rogers and the victim re their customers.

    • Mark

      Its not about customer service, it is about share purchase price and value. Industry consolidation is much more likely to take the shape of the small carriers combining their resources than buyout by the big three. You won’t be a Wind-Rogers customer, You’ll be a customer of they smallest of the big 4 (Wind-ocity?).

      Wind is a great provide by most accounts. But that often has little to do with what is the best company to buy from an investors point of view. Right now in corporate Canada Mobilicity is a star and Wind is a dog. This decision is absolutely horrible for Wind. They were of the suitors most likely to gobble up Mobilicity, with just as many rumours swirling around about a Mobilicity IPO. Now the market has been opened up to foreign investors. More potential buyers means a higher price for Mobilicity shares and a high likelyhood Wind WONT ever be the 4th big Canadian carrier.

    • chall2k5

      Wind is the better deal, more spectrum, more cell sites, more cash in the bank, higher data speeds, and Nagub has already said (sometime last year) if he can invest more, he will

      Wind will get a substantial influx of cash from OTH and maybe other players too….and once they capture 20% of the market, they will be in a good position to get more Canadian ownership

    • WarrenB1T

      chall2k5 You on a first name basis with the boss? niice! Umm naboo said last November if he did not get the deal he wanted, greased palmns, he would not bid. There is no money in the bank.. do your research please.. all of orascom wireless and all of vimpelcom.. now said to be at over 500 million subs made less in profits that rogers wireless division. re read that please. Good. So there is no money. Vimpelcom got shut out of Europe. They are losing carriers all over the place. Even in his homeland Naboo is under investigation for paying bribes.. you know all this already you read the links.. Wind is in trouble they simply can not compete. Who in their right mind would invest in wind? ohhh yes you are right Naboo did.

  • David

    I’m not exactly sure about the details behind physics of wireless waves or how much is enough to create an LTE network but is Tony Lacavera’s reaction to this decision too extreme or is his complaints truly valid? He even went the way of boycotting.

  • rogue17

    I hope Wind gets spectrum in Quebec because Videotron is not the answer.

  • Pointer

    Thumbs up if you feel we should just give the spectrum to Mobi, Wind and Public. Robellus got their spectrum for free when they started, so the newbies should get the same treatment.

    Thumbs down if you agree Robellus should get all the spectrum and increase our phone bills by 50% to pay for the spectrum they’ll likely overpay for.

    • 0defaced

      thumbs up if crap like this ^^^^^^ is killing youtube, and has now made it’s way to mobilesyrup…..

      F**K I DID IT TOO!!!!

  • Dogman

    What a freakin baby Lacavera is.. Wah wah wah I didn’t get my way so I will b*tch like a kicked dog. Grab pair a make it work. You’ve got a ton of eastern bloc money to play with, I am sure you can make it work. Don’t Russian oligarchs want to continue to invest in the Canadian Wireless telco space?

    • T1MB1T

      Listen here your m0ron! Tony is no cry baby! we were cheated! Rogers bocks our signal, they steal or phones and make sure they can not work on AWS, they tricked apple into not supporting AWS and they even go and steal or antennas!!! Tony said the other day they he thought we had an antenna at a location and that rogers must have stolen it.! They are afraid of us! we have the most megga hurts!!! you will all know the power of AWS!

  • B.W.

    Wind needs to win 700MHz spectrum across the country (or most of the country) and acquire Mobilicity. Then they can use Mobilicity’s portion of the AWS spectrum plus the 700MHz for LTE while continuing to use their existing AWS spectrum for HSPA. That should allow for a decent LTE network while not requiring their existing customers to switch devices.

  • Tim G.

    Whole thing seems to be a typical Canadian compromise. Hope it works out.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t really understand how you can divide a 700 mhz spectrum into 4 blocks. I wish I knew lol cause this might make a little more sense as to why people are crying.
    Do they divide it by area and auction it off separately? If so, meggaa stupid…

  • GTP20

    I’m sick and tired or paying well over $100 a month for my cell phone. My friends around the world laugh at the idea of having to sign a 3 year contract. Who is able to keep the same phone for 3 years??? It’s completely ridiculous. All this means is Bell, Rogers and Telus will have the majority of the spectrum and my cell expense will continue to be crazy high compared to the rest of the world’s cell bills….Same old, same old. Thanks for nothing Canadian Government!

  • Thunk.IT

    Lacavara will not boycott the auction. What a ridiculous and sensationalist way to get attention. You know full well that you will bid. You think you can’t compete with 10mhz how do you think you will compete going forward if everyone else bids and you are stuck with just your 10mhz?? The incumbents would drool if wind actually did not bid. So bid and buy wind. Then buy Mobilicity as everyone knows you will and then you’ll have what you need to launch your new LTE network.

  • kevinc

    Technically, is there any reason why the new entrants can’t build a shared LTE network?

    They need to install new transmitters for the 700 Mhz band anyways. Building a shared network would reduce their aquisition costs (for the spectrum) and their infrastructure costs (for network build out).

    Bell and Telus have a shared HSPA+ network.

    • Keith

      Alternatively why not create strategic partnerships?

      For example, a merged Wind-Mobilcity would operate in BC, Alberta and Ontario. Leave Saskatchewan to Sasktel, Manitoba to MTS, Videotron to Quebec the Atlantic to Eastlink.

      Let the customers roam freely along each others network, while each of the regional players gets to compete strongly with the Big 3. With the exception of Wind-Mobilicity the rest are also capable of offering bundles that compete with the Big 3.

  • delumen

    New entrants should have at least 50% of that auction if not 90%. Big3 have all the money and spectrum they need. Canadians will speak with their money and Big3 won’t have a choice but to hear us and change or fade into nothing.

  • rgp905

    No one is talking about the European or US carriers buying Mobilicity or less likely Wind under the 10% ownership cap and entering the market. If I was running a telco and wanted in the Canadian market I would be having a board meeting today and putting out plans. The key is that any foreign carrier can grow it’s market share past the 10% mark and still be foreign owned. Look out for At&T, T-Mobile and Vodafone (either alone or with Verizon). It’s about to get globally competitive.

  • Flintstone

    Does this foreign ownership apply to internet providers also?

  • 0defaced

    the only “position” Wind has ever really been in, is face down a*s up…..

  • JustMeAndMe

    I think dividing spectrum among more companies is better for customers- as they will have an option to switch without service reduction and/or get a phone which their own carrier doesn’t carry…

  • Mobilefreak

    ROGERS FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • B Wilson

    Beware of increased radiation levels .
    Coming to a roof top near you.
    Electro magnetic radiation should be a concern.
    700 MHZ can travel though thick walls and long distances.
    Europe is miles ahead of North America protecting the public health .

    • Guy

      It’s called “Safety Code 6″. This is the guideline used to (theoretically) ensure you don’t get fried by towers. Every carrier has an engineering team that approves every single tower under this regard. The world is far more complicated then “alright here looks good, put ‘er down boys lol”

    • kassim

      if we want to talk about safety then wind gets first prize! Their signal can not go through cardboard! The line up at returns was killer today!

  • WarrenB1T

    As it stands tony is stamping his feet and crying like a baby. Winds owner said in November if it did not go his way he would not bid.. then tony the parrot says the same thing. Well is that not a surprise. Wind never grew a set to take on anyone. Now with the foreign ownership restriction this opens up a new door for mobli reading on the hofo its pretty clear that winds game plan is flawed and mobli can sit back and enjoy the low bidding. I can hear the mobli ceo says thanks tony you clown.. yours the best.

    looking at the wind forums the paid trolls are deflated..

    oh well

    • Ron Mexico

      No, what this means is Wind will sit back let Mobi buy cheap, then buy Mobi who has set themselves up as temporary from the get go. No towers just tower sharing, no network team of their own. 5 corporate stores, everything temporary waiting to be bought.

    • WarrenB1T

      Ron how foolish can you possibly be? Mobli can buy it cheap but mobli has investor(S) not a lone investor/owner and they will not sell out. If they did wind gets all the debt so it would be more than they would have spent getting into the auction. Think about it like that. A merger would work BUT again who runs things. The networks do not complement each other well enough and Mobli said it did NOT want to be a national carrier. Rogers or Bell or Telus can easily, I repeat easily buy wind and mobli and have money left over. Why would they? The numbers are suspect, tony is acting like a child and the owners in egypt are cash strapped. Not a good place to be.

  • Domingo

    Government sided with Rogers, Bell and Telus….what a shocker. I used to think Rogers Bell and Telus were obviously involved in colusion, I forgot to include the government. They all make me sick.

  • jessie G

    So wind will not bid? I thought they got what they asked for?! What is this talk about the owners? I was told they were Canadian not from Egypt. I am glad I have not used my 30 mins of talk time and 14 days. back this phone goes!

    • chall2k5

      actually, Vimplecom is Russian from the Netherlands

    • T1MB1T

      Russian from the Netherlands? You are an idi0t! Wind is Canadian no Russians no Egyptians just Canadians! Does Tony look Russian?! NO! Do not spread these lies! chall2k5 talk like this will get you fired!!! Wind has the most megga hurts and the best plans and phones you know this! Besides Tony said today that there will be no need to bid because we do not need it!!! Our AWS is far superior and will keep us way ahead of the rest!

      Wind!!

  • Direct Timbot

    Hothead Tony is going to screw consumers again just like the way their customer service is today. Time to find a new carrier

  • T1MB1T

    listen wind is the best! we ave the most megga hurts, the best phones the best service! Come to MY forum and see how I handle people like you! YOU WILL BELIEVE!!! wind is the best!!! We will say we will not bid then last second we will bid and take it all!!! yes ALL of it then the big 3 will rent tower space from us! You will all be on wind! Ask tony ask anyone! wind is the best!

  • blackprince

    Whatever happened to all that spectrum that Shaw owns out West here.

    • chall2k5

      they will give it back if they dont use it by 2013, however, I think they’ll sell it

  • Mystic09

    I personally don’t care about LTE. The speeds I was getting on the Galaxy Note were fast, but they were still well within what HSPA and HSPA+ are supposed to give you.

    I’d rather have faster phones and a more stable network than faster download speeds (especially with our data limits). I dont need a phone that’s faster than my home internet.

    • T1MB1T

      That is what WIND has been saying all along! Our network is the best! No problems at all. Any problem you read about is fake! ALL lies! the rogers and bell and telus and the rest can not stand up to us! And the only reason Tony has a Rogers blackberry is to rub it in the faces of everyone! So get that straight!! Wind the most megga hurts, all Canadian, all honest and open! we are here for you all!

  • T1MB0T

    Poor wind. It is sad you know. They try and it just was not enough. First it was the crappy phones and then they would drop the call. Then it was the call centers being moved to India and Egypt. now its the wind staff that run the forums. Now the crybaby tony is all upset. Tony why not tell the truth you are relieved! Your network is crap and even if they gave you the spectrum you could not afford to deploy. Every month every penny you make goes to pay interest on loans and pay orascom directly to run your network. Do tell all the nice people here how globalive runs nothings. Who puts up the towers? Orascom, who runs the network? Orascom, who repairs, aligns, upkeeps it all? Orascom. So what is it that Globalive does.. well they have Yak. and tony crying..

  • Otter

    I love how we all know what WIND needs to do.

    What happens when new spectrum hits WIND/MOBI?

    The three suburbs in ottawa that have partial coverage, will get fully covered, without having to build a $500k a tower plus rent network.

    Bell now owns most of the spectrum for terrestrial radio…. wonder if that has anything to do with hoarding spectrum?

    We as Canadians need to learn that sure, our vote doesn’t mean much… but we sure have lots of dollars to vote with. If you want change, companies and governments don’t do it when you ask… they do it when their jobs are on the line.

  • Greg Keane

    In the end what does this mean to the consumer? What will/could could new plans look like. I pay Robbers…I mean Rogers, $85/month for 400 minutes / 500mb data…something seems odd…i’ve been with them since 1993…Canada needs things to change so what can we expect?