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lovemymobile
05-08-2009, 11:40 AM
the two companies keep doing things together.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20090508.RBCE08ART1939/TPStory/Business

Canada's two biggest phone companies are skirting their historic rivalry to team up on their second partnership within months, as they struggle to find ways to boost profits.

Both BCE Inc.'s BCE-T Bell Canada and Telus Corp. T-T face stagnant sales as the recession crimps spending in the growth areas of wireless, data and video services; as competition in mobile phone service grows; and as their traditional core land-line business shrinks.

Both are looking for smarter ways to operate. They unveiled an agreement yesterday that will see Telus sell Bell's satellite TV service to customers in British Columbia and Alberta under the Telus brand, with the companies sharing the proceeds. Although Bell will continue selling the service under its own name in the region, the deal strengthens its national reach. The agreement also helps fill a gap in Telus's product line while it builds out its own TV service over Internet lines, known as IPTV.

Both companies posted quarterly results yesterday, with Telus surprising the Street on news that its nascent IPTV service has drawn more than 100,000 users. That technology alone may not be enough to help Telus catch up to Shaw Communications Inc., its western rival. (Shaw has reported strong growth in TV subscribers, a rise in Internet and home phone users and is expected to enter the wireless phone market as early as next year.)

Last October, Bell and Telus teamed up to overhaul their wireless networks and convert to a new global standard to better compete with Rogers Communications Inc. and several new mobile operators expected to launch service within the year. Bell said that network will be running early next year, before the Vancouver Olympics, of which Bell is a sponsor.

kmusky
05-11-2009, 08:54 PM
Telus will never catch Shaw. Their customer service is appalling, compared to Shaw's. They should be grateful that Shaw is sitting on the wireless spectrum that Shaw bought. Telus will die a slow death once Shaw jumps into the wireless field.

urbnlgcy
05-18-2009, 03:21 AM
Telus will never catch Shaw. Their customer service is appalling, compared to Shaw's. They should be grateful that Shaw is sitting on the wireless spectrum that Shaw bought. Telus will die a slow death once Shaw jumps into the wireless field.

It's more likely that Shaw will die a slow death in the wireless field which is why they're still not making good use of their spectrum yet. Telus has been doing wireless for a while now and they'll fight tooth and nail to keep Shaw out of their backyard.

Kronk86
05-19-2009, 06:29 AM
Telus will never catch Shaw. Their customer service is appalling, compared to Shaw's. They should be grateful that Shaw is sitting on the wireless spectrum that Shaw bought. Telus will die a slow death once Shaw jumps into the wireless field.

Both TELUS and Bell alike won't 'die' if Shaw jumps into the wireless industry. Shaw's customer service, may be 24 hour a day, seven days a week, but they haven't won the same kind of awards as TELUS. It can't be that good. (From personal experience with Shaw, i find that their reps, although friendly, are very unprofessional, and usually take a very long time to get your problem fixed)

I think it is a wise move of Shaw to sit out this time around, though. They would have surely failed with all the new competition coming out. The wait and see attitude will most likely help them in the long run.

Globalive and DAVE wireless are going to give the Big 3 a run for their money, but they are very good at adapting, so i think the only big change is going to be the rate plans.

pusher
05-19-2009, 09:45 AM
So it looks like both new entrants will have Android devices... Globalive and DAVE Wireless. No word yet from Bell or Telus getting them still

kmusky
05-19-2009, 12:24 PM
I don't think you guys realize just how poor Telus' reputation for customer service is compared to Shaw's. Admittedly, I'm painting Telus Mobility with the same brush as Telus proper, but at least Shaw's installers and service people keep their appointments, which cannot be said for Telus. Everyone who uses Telus' phone, internet, or TV services has at least one horror story to tell.

I don't blame Shaw for staying out of the wireless industry for now. Far too crowded. It's just that so many people have a negative connotation with Telus that they will probably switch if given the chance.

ripreads
05-29-2009, 08:33 PM
Policies regarding foreign ownership has been slowly changing the industry is ripe for change...the government is looking for new monies...a belus might help carry both entities into the future telecom arena.