Samsung Galaxy S8 and S8+ teardowns reveal similar internal design to Note 7, S7

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  • Techguru86

    Will we see a repeat of the Note 7 ?

    • Dimitri

      I doubt it. Samsung had a huge mistake with the Note 7 not leaving some air for the battery to breathe. I doubt they made the kissable with the S8 and S8 Plus.

    • h2oflyer

      Probably better manufacturing control. Don’t know about breathing room. I’ve messed around with custom high powered LED flashlights as a hobby and have had cylindrical 18650 lith-ion batteries tight fitted into flashlight bodies with no problems.

    • It’s Me

      Hopefully. But, as far as the space allowance, from the original article:

      “The design surrounding the battery —its installed position, spacing, and reinforcement —is very, very similar to the Note 7.”

      If the housing and available spacing is almost identical, then hopefully the cells themselves within the battery pack are smaller. Either that, or someone wasn’t honest when they said it was caused by not enough room for expansion and it was just shoddy quality controls.

    • Dimitri

      Honestly I hope we do not have another repeat of the Note 7 for the S8 and S8 Plus. That will kill Samsung as a mobile device manufacturer and end it there at that point.

    • It’s Me

      If it was any other company I’d agree. But with Samsung they seem to have uniquely loyal followers that will overlook almost anything.

    • Eluder

      Unique? No different than Apple followers.

    • It’s Me

      More so in some ways. I’m not sure Apple could have gotten away with releasing exploding iPhones, covering it up with an exchange program and inaccurate excuses for the cause, followed by more explosive defects in the replacements and a total recall. Hell, Apple got more negative echo chamber coverage for comparatively minor issues that sounded like the end of the world at the time.

      I do think samsungs followers are unique. For all the insinuation of Apple users being sheep, they’ve never been in a position to turn a willfully blind eye to problems as bad as the Note.

    • Similar to Apple. They bought brands that could survive 2 to 3 bad phone launches and recalls. Even if the S8 catches fire, people will still buy it and if it is recalled, people will complain that “It didn’t happen to me, I am fine with my phone”

      The power of brand management

    • h2oflyer

      I don’t believe we’ll see the same catastrophic battery failures as the Note7. All if not most of those failures happened during the charge cycle.

      Whatever the real problem was, Samsung has corrected it and it won’t reappear on the S8s. Other problems might.

    • ciderrules

      Whatever the real problem was? We know EXACTLY what the problems were. They were explained very clearly by Samsung and independent testing labs. See my post above.

    • h2oflyer

      You don’t work for Samsung and are privy to insider information….Please direct me to the detailed reports from the independent testing Labs….You no nothing about lith-ion battery design or construction and you certainly don’t know what you’re talking about.

    • ciderrules

      It has nothing to do with the space inside the phone. There were two separate issues:

      – The space inside the battery casing itself was too small in the corner such that when the cell was inserted during battery assembly the “plates” in the corner were squished.
      – An insulating layer (film) was too short and when wrapped it ended up leaving a small gap where it should have overlapped.

      All those “experts” at the fixity shops who thought they were engineers were all wrong. Just like I called it way back when they took out their $20 micrometers, measured the inside of the phone and came up with the BS conclusion the battery compartment in the Note 7 was to small.

    • h2oflyer

      Do you make up all this battery failure facts or do you get a copy of Samsung’s engineering report. Also , could you please share a copy of the independent lab testing report which went to Samsung as they paid for it and is confidential.

  • h2oflyer

    I can remember being awed by the iPhone 4 with it’s aluminum and glass parts screwed together like a fine watch. Now all phones are glued together as part of the assembly process, the side benefit being water resistance.

    We have truly reached the point of throw away phones.

    • ciderrules

      iPhone 7 scored 7/10 for repairability. That’s hardly “throwaway”.

    • h2oflyer

      Doesn’t matter if it’s 4/10 or 7/10 it’s a phone that has to deglued and won’t be as water resistant as before.