Samsung says S8’s Google Assistant inclusion is ‘all about giving consumers choice’

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  • fred

    So if they want the user to have choices, I guess bixby will be removable, right?

    • It’s Me

      More likely they push back on Google and have Bixby activated with the home button.

    • thereasoner

      Bixby has it’s own button on the side of the phone.

    • It’s Me

      Yup

    • thereasoner

      Usually if Samsungs own stuff is not removable you can disable it so it’s not using any resources.

    • fred

      why not make removable? This way you save on flash memory too.

    • Benjamín Joel Fleet

      Because they want to be able to push auto-updates to the apps in hopes that people will decide to start using them.

    • fred

      so in other words, because they don’t want you to choose

    • thereasoner

      Probably for the same reasons Google won’t allow the complete removal of all of their apps.

  • Mr Dog

    I guess choice is good? 😛

    • thereasoner

      I’d certainly give it a go and see what it’s like vs Google Assistant and just disable it if I didn’t want to use it.

  • TheCuddlyKoala

    Another Siri copy?

    • thereasoner

      Nope, Siri is just an app that Apple bought and failed to develop. Bixby is more like Google Assistant that is an evolution of the first native voice Assistant on a mobile device in Google Voice.

    • Brad Fortin

      Seems like a mix between a personal assistant, a news app like Flipboard or Google Now cards, and Google Goggles.

    • Benjamín Joel Fleet

      I had voice assistants on my smartphones long before the iPhone was ever announced. They were far better than Siri even more than a decade ago.

  • TomsDisqusted

    If they are about choice they would let their customers uninstall the bloatware. I don’t mind being given the options but I hate having crap that I’ll never use consume limited resources for the life of the device!

    • thereasoner

      My experience with Samsung devices is if it can’t be installed then it can be disabled so no need to have anything you don’t want using resources.

  • Techguru86

    Welcome to too much bloatware, just make it an app through the play store and be able to download it, we don’t need Google apps and Samsung apps that do the exact same thing and that can’t be deleted

    • thereasoner

      If only you could get the same seamless user experience from an app. That’s probably why Apple bought the Siri app and made it the native voice Assistant on iPhones, an app certainly wouldn’t do.

    • Brad Fortin

      Isn’t Android “open” enough that an app could have all the same functionality as a built-in assistant?

    • thereasoner

      Do you think that having to open an app to use a voice Assistant is just as seamless as having a native on board Assistant integrated into the OS?

      Then why did Apple bother to buy the Siri app if a native solution isn’t more seamless, functional and secure?

    • Brad Fortin

      “Do you think that having to open an app to use a voice Assistant is just as seamless as having a native on board Assistant integrated into the OS?”

      No, but after all the parroting I hear about Android being “open” you’d figure you could assign any assistant to the home button or a dedicated side button, not just the options the OEM or Google give you. That’s more like iOS than the “open” Android I’ve been told about for years.

    • thereasoner

      Well actually, you could use any Assistant app you wanted for years before built in AI Assistants​ were created and just about anything can be done with various launchers, OEM skins or root. Personally, I’m hoping that the Bixby button will double as a camera shutter release.

    • Brad Fortin

      Does Android allow users to reassign buttons to different functions without rooting, though?

    • thereasoner

      Not sure yet if Nova launcher ect. will be able to modify the functionality of the Bixby button. It’s a new hardware feature but I can see something like a double click for Bixby and single click for camera being implemented.

    • Brad Fortin

      What about the home button? I’ve never been interested in changing the functionality of my Android phones’ buttons but changing the functions of the home button seems like the kind of thing some users could want. Can custom launchers like Nova do that? Can it be remapped from Google Now/Assistant to Cortana, Hound, etc (without rooting)?

    • thereasoner

      You’d have to look up launchers and see for yourself what each offers, I haven’t used one for quite awhile myself and each one is different.

      That said, changing from one assistant to another sounds like something more inline with root (though I’m not sure) whereas launchers can add functionality​/gestures to hardware that weren’t previously available.

      Also not sure why one would want that considering that you can already launch Cortana/Hound with a single click of the app, no hardware is necessary.

    • Smanny

      Clearly Brad you are showing your lack of technical knowledge. Google Now, as well as Google Assistant have the ability to see what is currently on the screen, then forward that information to Google’s AI and search servers. This data is then processed and the results are sent back. That is a simplified version of what is happening. To dive in a little more on the users device, as soon as you hold down the home button, then the system has to keep track of what app you are currently calling the assistant from. Then it can have some context, as well as the information that is on the screen. The servers as maintain the context information as well. Siri isn’t even close to doing what Google Now, Google Assistant, or even Bixby.

      So it’s not something that is just thrown together with the touch of a button.

    • Brad Fortin

      That doesn’t address my question, and at no point was I talking about Siri.

      To restate: Could you not assign another assistant, like Cortana, or Hound, etc, to the same long-press of the home button? Does Android’s “openness” not allow that? Could the same assistant not analyze the contents of the screen with that button press? Surely the “openness” of Android would allow a third-parry assistant to have the same seamless user experience as an OEM or built-in assistant? If not, it would appear Android is more locked down than people often say it is.

  • Norm Wilson

    not interested in their assistant that has its own button to launch it and because I know it’s something I’ll never use ever is that all Samsung did was take away the home key in favour of a useless button by the power button or can the button be used for something else easily or you need to know what ‘root’ means and void warranties and Samsung pay to make a useless button do something?

  • Rayrayj

    In Canada are we getting Qualcomm 835 or exynos 8895,i sure hope we are getting exynos, im a rogers customer?

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