The next iPhone will feature a USB-C port, according to The WSJ

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  • Eluder

    It’s about time Apple joined the rest of the world and supported an actual widely used standard, rather than a proprietary connector!

    • AMB_07

      Damn right!

    • Squishy

      But you know they are going to claim they invented it or made it better or some other BS line.

    • Brad Fortin

      Apple contributed a lot of their work on Lightning to the USB consortium, which is the reason the consortium shifted from micro-USB 3 to USB-C. If not for Apple’s contributions the consortium would still be embracing USB-A 3.1 and micro-USB 3.1 ports. They helped invent it, and it wouldn’t be wrong for them to claim so.

    • Smanny

      The main contributes came from Intel and Texas Instruments for USB-C. There are 79 people listed for USB-C, and Apple has a number of people that did contribute. However the majority of contributions were NOT from Apple. You can look that up yourself. Once again Brad you are here to pump up Apple at all costs.

      Apple has to change to USB-C because their own lightning ports are technically not capable of the same things that USB-C brings to the table. Especially in transfer speeds, and driving multiple devices through one cable.

    • Brad Fortin

      “Pump up Apple”? @disqus_9TZSnBnE2x:disqus didn’t know that Apple contributed to USB-C so I’m letting him know that they did, and that Apple wouldn’t be using “some BS line” if they mentioned their contributions. No need to attack me for it, calm down, put down the Kool Aid.

    • It’s Me

      Wouldn’t hold your breath on this one.

      Maybe a lightning to USB-c dongle for Europe.

    • Mo Dabbas

      probably it’s gonna be lighting to USB C in order to make it compatible with their new macs. I don’t expect more than that to be honest.

    • Igor Bonifacic

      For what it’s worth, Apple may have had a hand in the development of USB-C. https://9to5mac.com/2015/03/14/apple-invent-usb-type-c/

    • Mo Dabbas

      having an article like this reminds me how each race (when you talk to a person from that race) tells you their race is behind X and Y inventions.

    • Cowpoke

      Mo, we’s is all part of the human race, descended from monkeys and still behaving like chimps. Damn you, Charles Darwin!

    • Dede

      Darwin did not say that we descended from monkeys.

  • truthlesshunter

    Upcoming headline when iPhone 8 is release: Apple does it again! Revolutionizes smartphones as we know it!

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  • meister

    In the package, you’ll find the new iPhone8, a pair of lightning earphones and of course, the newest and 1st ever Lightning-to-USB-C adapter dongle!

  • Dimitri

    Yes they will give u another Adapter / dongle to use your headphones with. Sadly this is getting out of hand if this happens. They need to stick to one thing and thats it. Change it up every couple of years or 5 years. Not within a year.

    • It’s Me

      Given their last change took about 10 years, it’s hardly common for them to switch ports.

    • Dimitri

      That’s true but their customers don’t need a dongle or Adapter. They are doing this with their Macbooks. Now this.

    • It’s Me

      Sure they needed adapters or dongles for their existing accessories that used the old connectors. I guess most people don’t remember those because it wasn’t much of an issue for most. Lots of gnashing of teeth at the time but mostly from non apple users.

    • Smanny

      Apples lightning port has a number of disadvantages. It’s maximum transfer speed is really slow in comparison to USB-C with USB 3.0. Nevermind thunderbolt 3 speeds, which are 8 times faster than USB 3.0. Apples lightning port cannot support a high current like USB-C. USB-C can drive a number of devices on one port, and it can even drive up to two 4k displays. All of which Apples lightning port does not support.

      So if iPhones in the future want to drive something with VR or AR via the lightning port. Then it would be either really slow, or the amount data would limit what could actually be supported. Apple needs to change their proprietary lightning port. That or change it.
      1) update the transfer speed.
      2) support more devices on one port.
      3) support a higher current.

    • It’s Me

      Umm…The iPad Pro already ships with a USB3 controller. Lightnings current speeds are limited because they use usb2, not because they need to “update the transfer speed” of lightning. New cable, with USB3 and lightning (with extra pin exposed) and it would support USB3 speeds for any devices with USB3 controller.

      As for the rest haven’t seen any indication, yet, that Apple wants the iPhone to drive multiple monitors for power or data.

    • Smanny

      You do know that USB 3.0 speed is 5 gigabits, right? Whereas USB 3.1 is 10 gigabits, and thunderbolt 3 is 40 gigabits. That is 8 times faster than USB 3.0 speeds. Not to mention the lightning ports have to change in order to accommodate the faster speeds, plus the lightning port doesn’t support a high current like USB-C, and lightning ports are not bi-directional when it comes to power sources, like USB-C.

      Also you make it sound like it’s just a simple change on the existing lightning port in order in order to boost the speed. If you had a technical background, then you would have known at speeds like 10 gigabits or higher. The smallest amount of outside interference or even cable cross talk can hinder those high speeds. So how do they address higher current, or bi-directional power from multiple sources? Lightning doesn’t take any of that into consideration.

      USB-C can drive multiple devices through the one cable, including supply power to all those devices if need be. Lightning cannot drive as many peripherals as USB-C.

      Apple has to change their lightning port. If Apple doesn’t, then they are shooting themselves in their own foot.

    • It’s Me

      You are clearly completely confused by the spec (USB3) VS the connector. Lightning is a device connector. USB-C is a device connector. USB is the spec. The device connector doesn’t determine the max speed, though it can limit it. Lightning can support USB3.0 or 3.1 speeds as long as the device (a) has an appropriate controller and (b) the connector has appropriate number of pins. iPad Pro already has the controller. The lightning port can support the required number of pins. A compatible lightning cable would need the appropriate USB connector on one end and a lightning connector with the extra pins exposed.

    • Smanny

      I know perfectly well. Both the connector and the cable itself can definitely limit the speed. By the way USB 3.1 was released back in July 2013. Not to mention a number of laptops, desktops, and tablets were using USB 3.1 for years now. Even before USB-C came to smartphones. There was a number of smartphones that supported USB 3.0 and USB 3.1 throughput data speeds. Naturally they had the supported hardware controller.

      Now you are going on about “the lightning port can support the required number of pins. A compatible lightning cable would need the appropriate USB connector on one end and a lightning connector with the extra pins exposed.”. You couldn’t be more wrong. You are truly are showing the world how ignorant you really are. First of all the lightning port has 8 pins and they are big exposed pins in comparison to USB-C 24 pins which are small and have much more protection. Not only physical protection, but from radiation as well. Therefore USB-C can support thunderbolt 3 speeds (40 gigabits). I know for a fact the current lightning port and connectors cannot support those really fast transfer rates. Plus what about the high current? What about multiple devices being supported? What about multiple power sources which the lightning port doesn’t support?

      If it’s was as easy as you say it is to change Apples existing lightning connector and ports, then don’t you think Apple would have made the necessary changes by now? But I know it’s not as easy as you make it sound.

    • It’s Me

      So many words, so few facts.

      Don’t take my word for you be wrong again, takes arstechnica. If you’d to debate them, please do so with them.
      https://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/09/teardown-revives-hopes-that-lightning-might-be-usb-3-0-compatible/
      https://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/11/apple-sneaks-a-usb-3-0-compatible-lightning-port-into-the-ipad-pro/

      By your own admission, there were phones delivering USB 3 speeds without a C connector. Because the connector doesn’t determine max speed, it can only limit it. The controller is what determines max speed. Like I already said. Duh.

      As I first replied to you about extra power and multiple devices, no evidence that matters to Apple. How many monitors are you planning to drive off of your phone? You keep bringing them up, I’ve already brushed them off.

    • Smanny

      It comes down to technology. The lightning port is much slower than USB-C when transferring data (thunderbolt 3 speed is up to 40 gigabits). Plus the lightning port doesn’t support a high current like USB-C. Also a lightning port cannot drive as many devices devices on one port. One USB-C port can drive up to two 4k displays, whereas Apples lightning port cannot. Every laptop, tablet, and smartphone now supports USB-C. The only exception is Apples iOS devices. Even Apples own MacBooks support USB-C.

      They have to drop their own slow proprietary lightning ports.

  • Aaron Hoyland

    Pfffft. Never going to happen.

    They have a massive ecosystem of third-party Lightning peripherals that they make licensing fees on, which would disappear with the use of a standard like USB-C. And don’t forget all the wailing and gnashing of teeth that took place when they replaced the 30-pin connector with Lightning. In that case, there were many appreciable benefits (smaller physical connector, all-digital, reversible). None of those benefits would exist in the move to USB-C, other than moving to a “standard”, an abstract concept the average iPhone buyer couldn’t care less about.

    • Cowpoke

      This ^^

  • heynow00

    Took courage to abandon their own charging port

    • Cowpoke

      …and innovation.

  • Josh Brown

    I’m sure it is lightning to type c instead of lightning to type A

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  • Smanny

    Apple needed to drop their proprietary lightning ports. Especially when they are slow at transfer speeds in comparison to USB-C with USB 3.1 speed. Plus USB-C can support up a lot more current, and can drive a lot more devices. Also all laptops, tablets, and smartphones are now using USB-C, well except for Apples iOS devices.

    Apple needed to drop their lightning crap.

  • jeff the chef

    I’ll finally be able to get a charging cable for my moto z at Winners

  • Cowpoke

    I do not believe this rumour. Why didn’t the f****wits go USB-C in the first place?!?

    • Roger

      They wouldn’t have made all the money on lighting cables and adapters.

    • It’s Me

      That and the fact that USB-C was years away.

    • Cowpoke

      Ah…

  • Bob Loblaw

    Doesn’t matter what they include, all the apple sheeple will eat it up regardless.

    • Cowpoke

      I dun given them a deposit already, y’all!