Samsung’s upcoming ‘Bixby’ personal assistant could feature mobile payments functionality

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  • ciderrules

    Why does Samsung always feel the need to create their own rivals to Google services? What’s wrong with Google Now?

    • onestepforward

      Kinda like Apple huh?

    • GOAT

      Which came out first, Google Now or Siri?

    • onestepforward

      Google maps or Apple maps?

    • RichieRich

      What does that have to do with the current discussion? Are you four? Are you capiable of answering a question without blurring out something random?

    • onestepforward

      Shouldn’t you be asking yourself that question?

    • RichieRich

      So, your answer is that you don’t have an answer. Just trolling.

    • onestepforward

      You don’t know anything about the history between cider and me so why butt in?

      And you call me immature lol

    • RichieRich

      You replied to GOAT, who I’ve had conversations with in the past and who I find to be reasonable. I also found his/her question to be valid.

    • onestepforward

      True but he also interjected. Regardless, I answered both his and your question. Tellme_Networks preceded Siri

    • GOAT

      Honestly man I’m not responding to these people. You can easily separate who wants to actually discuss tech from who wants to push an anti-Apple agenda.

    • onestepforward

      I’m actually an apple user along with android and Windows. I’m not a hater but I don’t mind poking cider every once in a while. Why do you care? Besides I did answer your loaded question.

    • thereasoner

      GOAT, RichieRich and cider, what’s the difference? They could all be the same person considering how they always converge on the same thread and backing/voting each other up.

      It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if both you any GOAT are cider. It would be right up his alley to do that imo.

    • GOAT

      Okay I’m kinda getting why he blocked you now..

    • onestepforward

      Also Google “Wildfire”. Please do your research.

    • RichieRich

      Answer the question.

    • thereasoner

      That would be Google Now although it was formerly called voice actions on Android.

      Siri? are you talking about when Apple bought it or when the developer created it? There were a number of apps like Siri, talktoit etc that existed at the time when Google had voice actions and well before Apple bought the Siri app.

    • ciderrules

      What does buying have to do with it?

    • ciderrules

      Not at all like Apple, but you knew that already before you posted.

      Apple has its own ecosystem (iOS) that they control.

      Google has their own ecosystem (Android).

      Samsung is trying to create their own bastardized ecosystem by taking Android (which can stand on its own) and adding in all their own proprietary services. And then trying (in vain) to get developers to code for them.

      If Samsung wants to be like Apple then they should go all-in on Tizen. Then they’d have full control over hardware and software – just like Apple.

    • thereasoner

      I think his point was that Apple with things like Maps, were also coming up with services that had already existed from Google.

    • ciderrules

      Then he completely missed my point, which seemed obvious to me.

    • onestepforward

      Not really. Google maps was on iOS well before apple maps. Hence they developed a competitor. Until they pulled the contract.

    • ciderrules

      Except Apple doesn’t use Android nor are they part of the OHA. Samsung is. And they have rules to follow.

      Then there’s the rumor that Google might prevent Samsung from installing Viv (Bixby) because it competes with a core Google service.

      There were some hostilities between Google and Samsung which were alleviated with a cross-licensing patent deal, but this could re-ignite them. Making something like S-Translate is one thing. Going up against Googles baby is another.

    • thereasoner

      Google Now is not AI. Everyone is creating their own AI, not just Samsung and Google. Even Siri might get AI capabilities one day.

    • GOAT

      What criteria are you using to define AI?

    • thereasoner

      Contextual speach/conversations is one thing sets Assistant apart from Google Now although they do share similar functionality in most ways.

    • GOAT

      But you’re saying Siri isn’t AI? There are very few people in the tech business who would agree with you.

    • thereasoner

      If AI, in this case, is to be defined by contextual speach/conversations then Siri would fall short.

      That said, Siri is a spin off from AIC and a product of early attempts at AI. Unfortunately for iPhone users Apple failed to develop the tech much farther after they bought it and as a result Siri would commonly finish last in comparison to both Google Now and Cortana. Googles development of its AI Assistant leaves Siri even further behind while just about every other OEM develops their own Siri equivalent these days.

    • GOAT

      If that’s your personal criteria, then sure, you’re right. Under most conventional criteria, Siri qualifies as AI. Google Assistant is clearly lapping it at this point. I don’t really use any assistants on my phone beyond setting the occasional reminder. I don’t like talking to my phone in public when I can just pull it out and use my hands quickly. It’s hard to argue that Siri wasn’t the first of it’s kind on a major flagship. At some point, you have to give Apple a little credit.

    • thereasoner

      I think Android voice actions were the first native solution but there were several apps out as well. Siri was actually criticized as a worse implementation than the app it replaced at first.

      I don’t talk to my phone in public either but Google Now works so you don’t have to.

    • ciderrules

      Irrelevant. My comment is about Samsung always trying to reinvent the wheel and create their own proprietary versions of existing Google services that already work just fine. Milk Music (which they shuttered), S-Voice, S-Translate – the list goes on.

    • thereasoner

      Like how Apple made their own Maps?

      In Samsungs case, it could be that they want to keep their options open. If the day ever comes that they break from Android in favour of Tizen OS then they would like to be prepared with as many of their own services as possible I would presume.

      That and a recent report has Samsung using it’s Assistant to work with Samsung Pay. Not sure if competitors, like Google Now, will be allowed to do that on Samsungs mobile payment service hence the advantage in Samsung having their own AI Assistant.

      So, yeah… it is relevant.

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