CRTC hearing on differential pricing for Canadian data plans begins this week

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  • ToniCipriani

    For a moment I thought this was about differential pricing of mobile data plans between provinces.

    • vn33

      LOL! Me too! Too good to be true!

    • Alex

      ya, our eyes really do see what we want, xD

  • Grumpel

    Ugh I just signed up for Videotron specifically because of unlimited Spotify.. that better not change, its great for consumers.

    • ToniCipriani

      Problem is, this is opening a can of worms. I mean these carriers already own media companies, what’s not to stop them to start giving their own services preferential treatment and throttling/billing everyone else. It’s bad for the consumer on the long run.

    • Karl Dagenais

      CRTC already told Bell they couldn’t do that. They let Videotron go (up to now) because they don’t promote THEIR products, but a range of products provided by other companies…

    • ToniCipriani

      Bottomline is, trust no one. Carrier should be carrier, you deliver my data within the service level agreement, that’s it. You’re not diving into what I’m sending or receiving, to determine what to send faster or anything, it’s none of their business. It’s like you don’t want Canada Post opening your letters to do the same thing.

    • Grumpel

      Whats the issue if no streaming service is excluded?

    • ToniCipriani

      Then why categorize in the first place? Point here is, data is data.

    • Grumpel

      Either way, the carriers wont relinquish their data controls.. we’ll never have unlimited again so if this is the closest we get, we may as well use it..

    • Karl Dagenais

      Differentiation. They won’t give us unlimited data anytime soon, but al of them wants to give the extra feature that will attract you.. Unlimited Music, Bell TV, Rogers’ NHL Gamecenter… all things to get you to sign up.

    • Karl Dagenais

      Exactly. None for the consumer, except the philosophical “net neutrality”. But Bell and Rogers and Telus etc don’t like it because they don’t give the same advantage to their consumers.

      I’d much rather get unlimited data, but it won’t happen.

    • TouchMyBox

      No, it’s awful for consumers. You’ve drank the kool-aid (I don’t blame you, they’ve done a very good job of manipulating the public).

      Control the food supply and starve a population for decades, then once they’ve lost all hope give the petty humans treats when they perform a tricks. They’ll look at their oppressors not as tyrants, but as their friends who graciously feed them if they’re a very good boy.

    • Grumpel

      Wow, you’ve lost it buddy.

      Bottom line is, I use a lot of mobile data – and much of it happens to be music. Paying $66 a month for 6Gb of data is < than paying $66 a month for 6GB of data w/ unlimited access to my music. Case closed,

    • ToniCipriani

      That 6GB should not have been a factor in the first place. Data is not a resource that should be capped, it’s not hydro or water.

    • Grumpel

      What are you saying? of course its a factor, I require that amount of cellular data for my purposes and I happen to appreciate the price point.

    • Grumpel

      Ahhh you’re living in a fantasy world where you think writing comments on blog posts will magically change the way carriers have been operating for 5 year. I got it.

    • ToniCipriani

      Or maybe your tiny brain is just too focused on your stupid “free” streaming and forgot others can have a wider view of things, and feel the need to attack others not agreeing with you.

    • TouchMyBox

      Just understand that you are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. It’s not because of any weakness in your character or anything so don’t take offense to it, it’s just that the telecoms are master manipulators.

    • Grumpel

      See that’s where you’re wrong. As a consumer there is nothing we can do to change the way the carriers choose to sell us cellular data, even the Government can’t make a meaningful change at this point.. so as a reasonable man I find the best price to features ratio in a plan that I can, and I use it. The plan I’m on with Videotron offers that. You might see it as manipulation but from my side, I’m still getting what I want at the price I want.. so you;re argument is irrelevant. Keep hoping we all get unlimited and uncategorized data though! As I realist, I understand that will never happen.. I guess it’ll just take a bit more time for you.

  • Techguru86

    The big 3 will complain that the network can’t handle the data traffic, yet they were giving mobile TV for 10 hrs a month data free and yet they weren’t complaining then

    • Humbre

      But how many people used that service?

    • Techguru86

      They were boasting that they were doing huge with it

    • Humbre

      oh rly?

    • Tim

      only Bell was doing that. Rogers and Telus weren’t.

  • Justin

    Here in Manitoba, MTS still offers flat rate (unlimited) data. It was changes to flat rate due to people complaining they aren’t actually giving full unlimited data in the month, as it’s throttled after 15gb. At 15gb (not 26gb like t-mobile) we are throttled to not being able to do anything heavy (in s monthly billing cycle). We are allowed the flat rate data in Manitoba, but only 2gn outside the province.. Remember it’s still a regional carrier. I don’t think the folks that use less data are paying for the folks that use the max of it up in the month. Everyone is in a different bill cycle date… And everyone seems to almost just get the unlimited flat rate plan because it is the best value for price vs the capped 2gb or 5gb plans…whether you use the whole 15gb or not.
    Will see how long this lasts thought.

  • Tim

    The hearing will be done at that will be the end of it. Nothing will change.

    • Ricky Bobby

      Something will be done.

      There are only three certainties in life: Death, Taxes, and Robellus raising their prices due to another political statement.

      The battle between CRTC and Robellus the only people who loses are the people

      Heck couple months ago, I just found out that Canada had a competition bureau. Imagine that?

    • ToniCipriani

      Well in an unexpected turn of events, CRTC did force Robellus to reduce their wholesale rates to TPIAs a short while ago. Things do happen once in a blue moon.

    • hardy83

      Looking at the agenda, it’ll be all week. I mean nothing could still happen, but it’ll take 5 days to possibly do that. 😛

  • TomsDisqusted

    All we need is reasonably priced, simple, data plans. No more complicated conditions, differential pricing, confusing plans.

  • beyond

    If they get rid of data caps, it will only mean one thing, price increase for us. Just like when they removed 3 year contracts. Big 3 always win, and we lose as usual.

    • JPfromtheeast

      Probably totally right… Same thing happened with the whole no more penalties for cancelling at 2 years.

      Most people think that the CRTC outlawed 3 year contracts. Naw… They only outlawed ROBELUS from penalizing you after 24 months. No more profit? No more 3 year plans and everyones plan prices went up!

      Great 🙁

  • TouchMyBox

    Sell us “high-speed data allotments” like 10GB at uncapped speeds per month for $60 or whatever and then when you use up those 10GB throttle the user to 1 Mbps or so for the rest of the month and offer to sell them more high speed data as a one-time pay-per-use type deal just like the big telecoms in the states are doing because of T-Mobile. Nobody will be subsidizing heavy users, networks won’t crash, and everyone will be able to use spotify all-month long without worries about going over a data cap.

    In a world where people pay for their lattes with their phones, order a cab with their phones, buy and retrieve tickets on their phones, pay for parking on their phones, the thought of being cut-off from data for the rest of the month is close to unthinkable, and a reasonable throttled speed would be more than enough to continue letting users continue all their apps, they just wouldn’t be able to watch HD netflix all day long.

    Robellus would rather continue to strangle their users though for as much cash as they got and offend our intelligence with advertising campaigns that say “Hey data overages are the worst, aren’t they?! we think they’re just awful! so instead of getting rid of them, we’re going to let you know before we harass you for more money, aren’t we too kind?”

  • hardy83

    I personally would prefer simply what Wind, T-Mobile and like do. Have no data caps but throttle after x amount of GB. Then sell “addons” that let you increase that cap.

    Overage fees for data, but home Internet and wireless shouldn’t exist anymore. There’s already traffic management in place, any fees are simply a cash grab and anti-consumer.

  • Sweet

    The issue I see with differential pricing is this: if they waive data usage for, say, Spotify, will they also waive data usage for Spotify’s competitors too ? If not, then they’re discouraging users from using Spotify’s competitors, which is not right. If they’re going to waive data usage for Spotify, then they should do so for all music streaming services.

    In general, if they going to waive the data usage for a company’s service because of the type of service it is, then they should waive the data usage for all services of that type.

    • fmradio68

      And waive data usage for any type of usage like video.

    • Grumpel

      Every streaming music service is included in their “waved data promo”, they don’t discriminate. Even Microsoft Groove is in there, which no one uses.

  • Ipse

    What about at least roll over data I ALREADY PAID FOR?

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