John Chen outlines the ‘future of BlackBerry devices’

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  • The Iceman Cometh

    What is new here? This story pretty much is a reiteration of the stories posted on MS about this company over the past week. Is it really worthy to reprint and make a story out of a blog post this man puts up?
    The only ones reading their blogs are fanboys and tech sites like this, most of which would ignore this crap because nothing substantive is going on here and they aren’t out of the woods yet.
    Add to that the stock has flattened out since the lousy earnings on the 28th and I see a man in full damage control.

    • Chug that haterade

      The CarpetBomber Cometh… what a surprise. Still waiting for those professional accomplishments to qualify your “buffoon” comments…

    • tridus

      What phone sales? At the rate phone sales were already tanking, it’s not like there’s much room for it to get worse.

    • charlie2010

      re: Stock is tanking.

      +16% in the past 3 months? Mr Market likes the direction Blackberry is going in.

      50million Shorts covered in the past year and Fairfax went all in, smooth sailing from here.

    • fred

      -20% YTD
      -51% 5 years
      -91% 10 years

      Buy hey, +16% in the past 3 months so they must be doing great!

    • Chug that haterade

      And Apple stock was at a high of 129 in May, 2015, dropped to the low 90s a few months ago and is at 113… still down 16 bucks from over a year ago… your point?

    • charlie2010

      re: your point?
      There is none when someone cherry picks historical stock prices.

    • Lil’ Cwyin’ PC Fanboi

      He doesn’t have a point, he just rages against the light, as they say.

    • fred

      Apple is up +933% in the past 10 years, +108% in the past 5 years and +8% YTD. They are doing great, unlike Blackberry.

    • Chug that haterade

      Cool story… while conveniently denying my numbers.

    • charlie2010

      re: Buy hey, +16% in the past 3 months so they must be doing great!
      Can you explain the massive Short exodus in the past year?
      Why would the stock go up 16% in a few months if they were in a dire situation today? Do you think Mr Market got it wrong and you got it right?
      Why are you a better investor then Fairfax?

    • The Iceman Cometh

      What are you talking about? The stock is trading where it was before the earnings and is down 20% since the beginning of 2016. Who honestly cares about the last 3 months? Ridiculous.

    • Chug that haterade

      You care about everything BlackBerry… hence why you’re here like an obsessed ex-girlfriend

    • fred

      When a stock is down to 0 it can go up 16% or even 1000% in three months it’s still very low. Penny stocks have high volatility.

    • Chug that haterade

      Since when is $7.66 equal to $0?

    • fred

      it’s close enough compared to what it was 10 years ago

    • Chug that haterade

      Wow.. 10 years ago. Let’s live in the now..

    • fred

      5 years ago if you prefer.

    • Chug that haterade

      Personally, I couldn’t care less because 1. I’m not a direct shareholder and 2. Stock price 5 years ago has no impact on me today..

    • rick

      Where is the price tanking??

    • The Iceman Cometh

      Have you looked at the price the past couple days? It’s worse than it was before the earnings and looking to head lower even further.

    • rick

      It is definitely not “tanking”

    • The Iceman Cometh

      lol! Get real Rick. The stock was over $11 last week. It’s a dog

    • Chug that haterade

      It was up over $11 last week? Weird because the last time I see it trading as high as $11 was back in 2013. You might want to check your facts.

      Ps. BBRY stock bottomed out on Sept 16th an then gradually rose to a peak on Sept 28th (which happened to be the date of their earnings call) and then has steadily declined since but is still higher than Sept 16th… but please don’t let actual facts get in the way.

    • The Iceman Cometh

      Here’s a fact for you bigmouth. The stock trades on more than one exchange and as a Canadian company which principally trades on the TSX, it was $11.00 CDN the day of the earnings on the 28th.
      It might help your cause to do a little research as well before calling others out for your shortcomings.

    • Chug that haterade

      Well considering all of the major BlackBerry investment news comes out of acquisitions on the NASDAQ… and regardless of what exchange you are looking at, the trend is the same…

    • The Iceman Cometh

      What trend is that? You mean downwards? You got no argument there. The stock is a pump and dump and has been played that way nearly every quarter with earnings and great expectations failing to materialize. I mean the only reason the financials ‘broke even’ was because the company used non-GAAP methods. They are desperate and a reason why the stock is likely headed back under $10 CDN or possibly $7 USD.

    • Chug that haterade

      This comment is proof you have no clue about how corporate finance and accounting works. They report in both GAAP and non-GAAP.. BlackBerry broke even before any Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (hence the GAAP) were applied. The trend… you know.. if you look at both markets… up at earnings call time and slid back down slightly. Without looking, I’d be willing to bet the same thing happens to most public companies around quarterly earnings calls…

    • The Iceman Cometh

      Oh give me a break geesus. I never said they didn’t also report GAAP numbers but the fact remains they relied heavily on non-GAAP to give the impression of a break even because that was the buffoon’s big promise. Accounting chicanery aside, they still lost money here.

      Let me ask you. Why the hell are you so defensive about this company huh? You work for the outfit? Have family or friends that do? I mean someone who seems to care whenever a negative post is made about Chen or Blackberry goes way beyond the fact you own a PressedPort. You can’t stand any opinion that doesn’t jive with your own and you have very little idea what you’re talking about when you talk about a stock going back ‘slightly’ Bottom line is that the stock is a sideways trading dog. It doesn’t hold gains, always pumps and dumps around earnings time and for a serious investor your comments truly come off as ignorant and uniformed.

    • Chug that haterade

      Aaaah… that famous “accounting chicanery” they created. You do realize that minus accounting treatments, they broke even.. yes, I know it is hard to believe they have to apply this accounting chicanery like depreciation and inventor write downs to prop up their earnings… er wait, nevermind. And here it comes… the famous, “you must work there” response. And it isn’t about you “having an opinion that doesn’t jive with mine”, it is about your incessant trolling of a company that you don’t like and it doesn’t know you exist. And I thought you weren’t a shareholder, so why do you care what the stock does?

    • The Iceman Cometh

      Let me ask you. Why did you choose to hide your Profile on Disqus huh? What’s the matter? Sick of people trolling your azz around the various boards you spray your unique brand of skunk odour on? As I remember, Whaaa Whaaa Flagging Cowards, it was a major criticism of yours that others hid theirs. Real hypocrisy on your part. Once again.

    • Chug that haterade

      Naaw… just sick of gutless cowards flagging my comments like a bunch of crybaby girls.. don’t worry though, I won’t cycle through names every week…

  • xBURK

    It’s great to see Chen hammer the point. We’ve seen how the media twisted his comments last week. Hopefully they stay on top of it. If not, it’s going to be confusing as they release their new devices in the future. Thanks for the article Rose.

    • Chug that haterade

      Honestly, it doesn’t matter if the media twists it or not because the “cool” thing to do is bash BlackBerry… just ask The CarpetBomber Cometh…

    • The Iceman Cometh

      Someone needs to “hammer” it in Chen’s head that hardware is done here for them and making some kinda case to the contrary smacks of desperation. People aren’t going to be buying any rebranded BB device for any of the reasons he tries to shill here. If he hasn’t learned that by now given all their hardware failures then he is one dumb sumbitch,

      P.S. “Chug the haterade” You’re on ignore buddy. You’re a pot stirrer of gargantuan proportions looking to turn every thread into a twenty post back-and-forth flame war of this buffoon. Find someone else to play with.

    • Chug that haterade

      Everyone… did you know that TheCarpetBomber Cometh speaks for all consumers and enterprise customers?

      Ps. I turn every post into a flame war? What do you do? Come here to carpetbomb EVERY BlackBerry article with your nonsense? Let the hypocrisy flow…

    • Ski Baron

      What does he care, the hardware is not being created by Blackberry thus the losses are minimal. Lots of people will buy rebranded BB devices, just not you obviously. Indonesia will sell millions. You have no point but hate. Pound what into Chen’s head? Your hatred and rhetoric. Never seen anyone that cares so much about something they hate and don’t invest in.

    • The Iceman Cometh

      So the future of this company is selling in Indonesia? lol! It’s a second to third world country where cheap devices are what drive sales. It’s not a market this company can make any money in and whats more they won’t sell anymore than they ever sold before.
      You vastly over estimate people buying a rebranded BB device. Maybe you obviously but you’re in the small minority.

  • Matt

    Blackberry’s problem of why their not making profit on selling devices is because blackberry continues to make bad decisions on pricing their devices way to high. Cause let’s face it their pricing their devices at the high end range but blackberry itself people portray the name blackberry as a low to mid range brand.people don’t want to spend a high end price for a Blackberry cause they have made themselves looking bad for their brand.
    What they need to is release high end phones with better specs and hardware and release them at a way lower price so they can create more brand recognition and get more of their devices in people’s hands. Can’t make a profit if no one will buy your product cause consumers don’t like your pricing cause they don’t trust your brand yet.

    • Eric Nicholls

      They should had built a device similar to the OnePlus 3. Sleek, good looking and plethora of features at a really good price.

    • Ski Baron

      They are not releasing anymore new hardware. All your suggestions are moot.

  • tacoma

    Unless a handset maker gets at least 10% world marketshare, its handset business will fail.

    Handset hardware like the notebook PC is a commodity volume business. It is not a business Blackberry can afford to play anymore as OEM. BB will simply buy ‘generic’ handsets from other OEMs and install its modified Android, or BB10. Maybe it can even make them dual-boot: either Android or BB10. This can bring up the installed base of BB10, let every Android customer tryout BB10. As such, a dual-boot Blackberry handset is most unique, addressing the needs of both general consumers and professionals.

    So I say throw in BB10 for free as dual-boot with every future handset. What has BB got to lose, and everything to gain?

    BTW I just bought a Blackberry Priv, to replace my Samsung Note 3. The Priv exceeds the Note in every way. It is a fantastic high-end design. But Blackberry is no match to Samsung or Apple in marketing.

    • The Iceman Cometh

      lol! The Priv is a piece of garbage compared to Samsung Note models namely the 5 and the 7. You’re making a ludicrous comparison.
      Also, Google will never endorse a ‘dual-boot’ device. That’s a fantasy of fanboys who salivate over the prospect and nothing more.

    • Chug that haterade

      TheCarpetBomber Cometh, what were you saying earlier about getting a life?

    • Ski Baron

      Priv is garbage to you even though you have never used one. Hmmm.

    • The Iceman Cometh

      Don’t be ridiculous. The phone was poorly built with over heating issues (that were never fixed despite the fanboys stating the opposite) a keyboard that was nowhere near the functionality of their other QWERTY devices and generally a cheaply made carbon-based unit that felt creaky in the hands of many users. These are indisputable facts and a key reason many devices were returned. If that doesn’t qualify as junk I’m not sure what does.

    • Chug that haterade

      Yeah… because according to CarpetBomber Cometh, the device was ultra hot.. apparently no device gets really warm when you are pushing it with multiple stuff going on. Smfh

    • rick

      Supporting BB10 is not a viable business path. You can’t just slap an OS on a handset and abandon it in the enterprise space. You need to care for and feed it. This is the reason Android has never made inroads into the enterprise. And this is why BB offering android devices with post sales support is a good idea.

  • Jason

    So what’s left? They stopped making BB10 because it had no apps, they stopped making handsets because it’s to costly, so I guess they only have the security software but can that be profitable?

    • The Iceman Cometh

      They’ve been all over the map the past several months. When people began to question whether BB10 devices were going to be made in future, they rolled out Marty Beard for some comic relief in which he stated more or less than “BB10 if necessary but not necessarily BB10”
      The same goes for this statement of Chen’s because the guy knows the company has a serious credibility issue with that OS given their focus on Android, added to the fact a BB10 update was due back in June.
      Fact is that while Chen announces their withdrawal from hardware, he’s still out here touting it because he realizes that few people are going to buy phones from a company publicly announcing they’re exiting. It’s a clusterfvck but par for the course from this company.
      If they really had a focus they’d stop with the nonsense of putting stupid BB logos on rebranded phones and instead aim to try and hawk whatever they think they have to existing manufacturers such as Apple or Samsung in the realm of ‘hardened security’ or whatever. As it stands that looks like its going nowhere fast just like none of their previous phones went anywhere either touted along the same credentials.

    • Chug that haterade

      I wish I could spread hate about a company like this guy^^^

    • Ski Baron

      You just like to swear and curse, They are not putting anything on anything. Others will build the phones and take the chances. Licensing means Blackberry gets paid no matter. If no one builds phones then none will be sold, and no risk to BB. Pretty simple if you are not trying to find things to swear about. The DTEK 50 and 60 are very attractive to me still no matter how many names you call me. Name calling is all you got. If you put actual facts your posts would be much fewer and smaller. Cue the continued name calling. I LOVE being called a fanboy!!!

    • The Iceman Cometh

      Why would anyone take a chance building a phone with their logo on it? Are you for real? lol! The brand is finished and has ZERO respect among the vast majority of consumers and enterprise. Only a select few cling to this stuff because they never moved on to anything else after 2008.
      You can try to convince yourself the crap will sell but it won’t and Chen’s actions the past couple days speak to a man in damage control mode. Its a waste of time however talking to people like you. You’d rather ride the Titanic to the ocean floor than ever admit they hit an iceberg. Truly sad.

    • Chug that haterade

      “Only a select few cling to this stuff because they never moved on to anything else after 2008.”

      Apparently CarpetBomber doesn’t realize that the DTEK series isn’t running old BBOS

    • rick

      A hamburger stand can be profitable. Can they be a leader? Can they transition in a very similar manner IBM did and exit the consumer space. We’ll see. I love BB, but even I am not convinced.

  • caky

    The people that don’t like BlackBerry is better off going to what they like and say something positive. Bunch of baby’s that needs a place like this because the real world take to much guts that they never had. Squids are in.

    • The Iceman Cometh

      Grow up. Seriously. People are entitled to their opinions whether you like it or not

    • Chug that haterade

      The CarpetBomber Cometh telling people to grow up… take a look in the mirror buddy

    • caky

      Lol so what’s wrong with my opinion then. Relax

    • Chug that haterade

      According to The CarpetBomber Cometh, your opinion is wrong because it calls him out. If it were bashing BlackBerry like he does 24X7, it would be spot on accurate. Smh

    • The Iceman Cometh

      Insulting people suggesting they have “no guts” because they don’t like this company is juvenile.

    • Chug that haterade

      Tissue?

    • caky

      Sorry didn’t mean to hurt you

    • The Iceman Cometh

      Haha. You’re not hurting but please if you’re going defend this outfit have some valid reasons that make sense. Not like that îdiot Chug who is clearly on someone’s payroll to defend this and troll people he doesn’t agree with

    • Chug that haterade

      Awwww crybaby CarpetBomber can bring me up in comments yet doesn’t have the guts to respond direcly to me… Who’s payroll are you on to bash them?

    • Lil’ Cwyin’ PC Fanboi

      Huh…?!?

  • caky

    Needs to make a extreme weather proof phone for all sorts of weather. Be big seller I bet. Expensive wouldn’t matter if a person could find a phone like that. I know there is phones like that but not extreme.

    • caky

      Even float

    • Lil’ Cwyin’ PC Fanboi

      Right. Float in a swimming pool like a t….oh, wait.

    • Chug that haterade

      An iTurd?

    • Ski Baron

      I just saw a samsung phone immersed in Coca cola then frozen solid over night and it was still working. I think it already exists.

    • caky

      Not to shabby at all

  • gommer strike

    I would like to see the following:

    Blackberry to come with “bundled deals” on their hub software and write a cool email client for Android/iOS devices – something better than we have.

    For them to hand off the hardware business to others is fine. Maybe other OEMs can include BB software for free and advertise themselves as “Blackberry powered” with the BB hub and software free for the device’s lifetime(or at least grant a free 2-year subscription).

    • Ski Baron

      I thought the hub was a cool email client?

  • Matt

    The name Blackberry is also holding them back. As people think a Blackberry device is garbage. Perhaps what Blackberry needs to do is make a rebranding to a new name to sport on their future devices. This way people will think it’s a brand new device and may want to buy it. And have a competitive price as well. Cause there’s other brands with high specs and good hardware that’s lower in price like one plus 3. Asus Zenfone 3 etc. They need to release a high end device and price it at the $400 price point with a new rebranding name with high end specs and have all the hardware like every other high end device has. Waterproof/dustproof. Fingerprint scanner. Huge battery. 5.7 inch 2k screen resolution. Removable battery. Fast and wireless charging. Wideangle camera lens both front and back. With flash on front. Front facing stereo speakers. And running android. Then you’ll have great sales. Get rid of the name Blackberry cause that’s really holding blackberry bac and the pricing

    • Ski Baron

      Who thinks that Blackberry is garbage? Nobody says that? They say they are over priced and possibly specs are lower. Not garbage at all. Most people agree that BB OS is the best just not cool. Who would they fool with a new name? Seriously! Ever heard of the DTEK60? Has most of the things you ask for including a fingerprint scanner. However fingerprint scanners are less secure that not. You can change your password but you cannot change your fingerprint. Once fingerprint data proliferates on the internet, your phone will not be safe, then anyone can hack it.

    • rick

      I think fp data is specific to the sensor and device. Meaning if someone obtains your fp data from your iPhone, they can’t use it to unlock your laptop. Further they couldn’t use it to unlock your new iPhone. This is why you need to “train” each device by scanning your finger. I don’t believe they could even use your fp data to open an app on a different device. At best someone would need to have your fp data and your current phone and then they could access that phone only. If they’ve got your phone – wipe it.

      Correct me if I’m wrong though.

      Last I believe you fp data is only stored on your dwvice

  • Lil’ Cwyin’ PC Fanboi

    Nice toupee, John but nothing will cover your abject failure.

    • Chug that haterade

      Apple articles ——>

    • KiwiBri

      lol

    • Lil’ Cwyin’ PC Fanboi

      Thanks, bro.

  • Christopher Robert

    If they offered the blackberry sweet to corporate customers as an option to compete with KNOX to do secure storage on the phones and secure encrypted company communication they could still make lots of money. The problem is making hardware is tough to compete on both specs and price and it is late in the game for them to try to become a high end hardware company.

  • rick

    I have no problem with Chen’s vision of where BB should go, but based of first hand experience with Good/BES – they’re struggling to keep up to the vision. I don’t think its a question of smarts but of cycles (staff and actual footwork) to get the work done.

    • dannyR

      Recently Google is claimed to be moving toward a more centrally-controlled ecosystem, emulating Apple, and what Microsoft is struggling to match.

      These players are going to eventually push BB even further to scraping out bits and pieces at fringes, even on security, just to live hand to mouth, day to day.

    • rick

      Apple has no way to centrally manage for enterprise. Their solution is for people to set up a second or use existing apple id’s of which enterprise does not control. It’s workable but a long way to go. Still requires third party tools over top.

    • dannyR

      They are pushing in that direction.

    • John W

      It seems very logical to me as well, The problem is Blackberry is still synonymous with somewhat dated hardware. And now that they are running Android just like everyone else i can see licencing opportunities slowly fade away unless they have a big hit at some point.

    • dannyR

      Google is tired of OS virtual fragmentation. That is precisely what Chen is offering in Android. It’s being speculated that Google is going to go even further into direct phone design and manufacture with Android integration. This is not good for BB’s future.

  • KiwiBri

    I met a friend yesterday who I havent seen in a long time. Hes been a long time BB fan. Keyboard lover, Playbook devote etc. (Shareholder too I assume)
    He was carrying a work provided Android phone. I was quite surprised. He said he was away for work and he had enough of the BB. (Something about the maps being crap and being lost – lol)
    Its not all about the hardware ,but the whole experience….

    • dannyR

      “Something about the maps being crap and being lost…”
      ___________
      ‘ “BlackBerry is no longer just about the smartphone, but the smart in the phone,” Chen states in the post. ‘
      ___________

      There you go. Now your friend will return to his senses.

    • Chug that haterade

      So by your logic, everyone should drop Apple devices because Apple Maps is garbage? I’ve used both BlackBerry Maps and Google Maps on my Passport without any issues whatsoever…

      Btw…. BlackBerry licenses their “TANA” map products from TomTom. So if the maps are junk, how about you take your snarky comments to TomTom.. just sayin’

    • John W

      Doesn’t TomTom do apple maps as well? or am i mistaken on that one

    • Chug that haterade

      Maybe… don’t know and don’t really care.

    • Ski Baron

      So why comment then? Just like to hear yourself complain?

    • Chug that haterade

      I was pointing out that Danny’s snarky comment about BlackBerry was ridiculous and that, by his logic, everyone should drop Apple devices because Apple Maps is garbage. Apple may use TomTom on the backend… I have no clue. From what I understand, they use a variety of data sources… not sure how that is complaining..

    • dannyR

      “I was pointing out that Danny’s snarky comment…”
      In logic, this sort of proposition is called the fallacy of the complex question. It’s the sort of thing that gets a whole string of comments deleted.

    • Chug that haterade

      I’m curious what a map issue from a 3rd party (ie TomTom) has to do with Chen’s statement?

    • dannyR

      “…the smart in the phone” –Chen
      “…and he had enough of the BB. (Something about the maps being crap and being lost – lol)”
      ______________

      I didn’t start the Tom Tom thing at all. It was presumably whoever mentioned it first; perhaps in the deleted comment.

      I was making a comparison between what Chen said and what one user’s (reported) experience actually was with his BlackBerry.

      This is a even whole lot simpler than it looks.

    • Chug that haterade

      If it is so simple, then why are you having such trouble answering the question? What does a presumed flaw in TomTom’s data have to do with Chen’s statement? If I have a poor experience with a 3rd party app on an iPad, does it mean that Apple products are bad or that Apple employees are “buffoons”?

    • dannyR

      His friend will take great comfort in your experience.

    • Chug that haterade

      I hope so.. and I hope he enjoys his Android phone.

      Ps. Have you fired off a complaint to TomTom yet?

    • dannyR

      I have no personal complaint to fire off to TomTom. I’m only touching on his friend’s experience. I don’t suppose he was dreaming…

    • Chug that haterade

      Never said he was dreaming…depending on the area he was in, I’m sure he did have an issue…. kudos to him for finding a device that works… although I’m sure the Google maps app on his new Android phone is just as accurate as the Google maps app on my Passport. As for your comment, I figured you had a personal complaint as well… which warranted your snarky comment about BlackBerry to “touch on” his friend’s experience.

    • dannyR

      “…which warranted your snarky comment…”

      Now, this is precisely where people get themselves in trouble with flaggers.

    • Chug that haterade

      Aaaahh… of course… let the anti-BBRY crew run amok here.. heaven forbid anyone call them out. Was it ad hominem? Too many 2nd person pronouns?

    • dannyR

      No, but it’s getting there. It’s on the right/wrong track.

    • Chug that haterade

      Aaaahh…. okay. I get a kick out of posters like you and Cometh… you post snarky comments and then resort to “stop picking on me” when people call you out on them. Let me ask you this…. since you have no personal involvement in the maps issue original presented, was your comment about BlackBerry not snarky?

  • Chug that haterade

    Good to see the comment flaggers are out in full force again. Hilarious how my comments seem to always get removed yet a certain other poster can attack others and carpetbomb the comment section with trolling comments and his are allowed to stay.

    • dannyR

      Yes, but they usually attack BB, its CEO(s), and BB defenders in the general sense. When someone goes on specific and unprovoked ad hominem diatribes, liberally sprinkled with the 2nd person pronoun, against other commenters they often get chased off comment boards.

    • Chug that haterade

      Ahhh… so attacking BlackBerry defenders is okay but calling out someone for their nonsense isn’t. Gotcha

    • dannyR

      “…defenders is okay”. In the general sense, yes.

      “calling out someone for their nonsense isn’t.”

      No, it is OK. As long as it is demonstrably nonsense, and as long as it isn’t ad hominem.

    • Chug that haterade

      Of course… of course. But had the tables been turned and I attacked Apple or Android users “in a general sense”, then I’m sure it wouldn’t be okay.

    • dannyR

      Sure it would be OK. I’ve done it myself. Not so much on mobilesyrup, and not in the recent past.

    • Ski Baron

      You just attack people, you don’t call them out.
      You facts are twisted if you post any at all, and your comments are just pure hate.

    • Chug that haterade

      Really? Where did I “hate” on anyone? My only negative comments were directed at The Iceman Cometh, which you and I both know is one of the biggest potstirring haters on this site (considering you called him out in one of your comments below).

    • Ski Baron

      Because you spew hate that has no reason, you are always insulting more than inspirational. You obviously are just here to provoke hate and call down anyone for no reason. Being the worst hater here, it makes total sense. Most of your posts are not even on the Blackberry topic, like this one. Oh poor poor me. I attack everyone but I cannot take it myself. WHAAAAAH!

    • The Iceman Cometh

      A person making it a point to troll individuals is the ultimate low life of these boards. If a person doesn’t agree with my comments they have the option of ignoring the posts but instead you get the likes of Chug and you just throwing more gas on the fire for no reason.
      I’ll continue to criticize this company as long as its in the current shape its in and more importantly, until Chen delivers on all his hype. The guy is a buffoon with ZERO communication skills and little understanding of the market he’s operating in. Every interview or blog he posts just further proves the point.

    • Chug that haterade

      Hahahahaah you calling me the ultimate lowlife is priceless!! You do NOTHING but come here and post senseless hate about BlackBerry 24×7 and then resort to childish passive aggressive comments about me in responses to others because you don’t have the nads to respond directly to me. And the best part is you tell other to “just ignore you”… which might be a possibility if you didn’t carpetbomb each and every BlackBerry article with your usual nonsense… but YOU don’t take your own advice and just ignore a BlackBerry article that is posted… you physically can’t. You claim it is me throwing gas on the fire but it is you…. you’re the one here day in and day out trolling…

      Btw… still waiting for those professional accomplishments to qualify your opinion of Chen.

    • Chug that haterade

      So I’m in the wrong for calling out guys like Cometh for constantly posting negative BS about BlackBerry and Chen? Gotcha… good to know BlackBerry fans have become such a supportive group.

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  • caky

    Apple got to be the best at marketing product. They always find a way to rip people off and the people love it.they got there own chargers that only work on there devices and even changes chargers on every apple device. They good at what they does

    • dannyR

      The first ‘smartphone’ that best claims the title of progenitor was a Samsung, about 15 years ago. RIM had every opportunity over the next 5 years to leap-frog over that into a true 3rd-party app/phone/computer device/ecosystem.

      No, they waited for a computer company to take control of what quite properly should have been their turf.

      “Standards are the enemy of innovation.” –Steve Jobs.

      This infuriating system of Apple’s isn’t a conspiracy to lock others out, or some deliberate plot of planned obsolescence; it is fundamental to their theory of the innovation cycle.

  • Russ Hanneman

    RIP BlackBerry

    • Chug that haterade

      Again, hilarious how my comments are deleted yet garbage like this is allowed to exist…

    • dannyR

      There. I just upvoted both. How’s that?

    • Chug that haterade

      What does that have to do with that trolling garbage not getting deleted?

    • Russ Hanneman

      RIP to your posts and to BB hahahaha

    • Chug that haterade

      Don’t worry…if the mods are doing their job, your posts will be disappearing soon

    • Lil’ Cwyin’ PC Fanboi

      Are you runnin’ to the mods AGAIN, Uncky Pwessed?

    • Chug that haterade

      Unlike you… no

    • Lil’ Cwyin’ PC Fanboi

      Yeah. Right.

    • The Iceman Cometh

      You know what’s hilarious? Its how every forum you post on you end up being forcibly ejected because you’re like barnacle stuck to a rock and refuse to let go of the discussion. Look at this board as an example? Most of your posts are deleted because of one little post of mine about Chen you didn’t like and all of a sudden it becomes your mission in life to attack every single reply out there. Not just that, your attacks are personal in nature and when one of your fellow fanboys attacks you for it, you know that you’re on the wrong side of the equation.
      Fact is you are the biggest potstirring, carpet bombing troll out here and its not just BB stories here but also Apple stories at BGR that you cheerfully troll to death and engage in endless battles. You have serious issues defending this company all because you use a PressedPort and most everyone knows you are “Whaaa Whaaa Flagging Cowards” which is amusing since you’re the most prolific flagger who cried to the mods out there.

    • Chug that haterade

      Buh Buh Buh but I thought you had me on “ignore” and it was me “looking for a fight”… yet you are responding a day later.. right hypocrite? But you knew that already… just like you carpetbombing BlackBerry articles and then calling me out for doing it.

      Btw… I’m on to your little scam about changing account names so frequently… too bad you stick out like a sore thumb because we can ALWAYS spot you out on BlackBerry articles.

    • The Iceman Cometh

      I came across your post on a browser I wasn’t logged in on. You need to be put in your place. You see?? You’re still at it and upset a “RIP Blackberry” post is allowed to remain when in fact its benign and doesn’t even come close to violated rules here. Unlike your tripe.

    • Chug that haterade

      Awwww… you back to “throw more gas on the fire”? And “RIP BlackBerry” is a bunch of trolling garbage, just like your carpetbombing nonsense. Don’t worry, no matter how many times you “block” me or report me to the mods, you’ll never put me in my place because I’m right. It is one thing to have a negative opinion of something… but 1. You have no purpose here and 2. You don’t just post one comment looking for intellectual discourse… you post 50 comments of the same nonsensical hatred.

    • The Iceman Cometh

      Intellectual discourse? lmao! You actually think anything you contribute qualifies as such? Your response to a Chen criticism is to attack others and suggest they have no “professional accomplishments”. You’re a joke and have no purpose here either. You get off on the rabble rousing

    • Chug that haterade

      LMFAO… why should I contribute anything intelligent to your constant hate laced ramblings? And I didn’t suggest you didn’t have any professional accomplishments (although I wouldn’t be shocked if you didn’t), I merely asked you to list them…. which you conveniently ignore. And “i’m a joke with no purpose here”… yet what is your purpose here? Do you have a purpose other than to spread hate? And you claim that I “get off on rabble rousing”, yet who initiated the back and forth today?

    • The Iceman Cometh

      Yes, I do hate this company. It’s a national embarrassment to Canadians and I’m proud to say I’ve made a ton of money shorting the dog the past 2 years.
      Beyond that, what the hell does ‘professional accomplishments’ have ANYTHING to do with having an opinion about a CEO or a company huh? Are you suggesting that layman investors, stock analysts, or anyone who follows the tech industry doesn’t have the right to an opinion if they don’t have a resume akin to Chen’s? Do you honestly think a person needs to be a CEO to criticize a CEO? You really have no clue and the fact you attack people from that angle goes to show how ignorant and uninformed you are because you have NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING to defend the buffoon or the company with. You turn the tables and attack the individuals. For someone so big on ‘intellectual discourse’ and seemingly not willing to waste time to my ‘hate laced ramblings’ you sure spend a lot of time doing so don’t ya?????
      Like I said. You’re a joke. Enjoy your evening.

    • Chug that haterade

      I’d be willing to bet you aren’t even Canadian. And if you happen to be and the fact that “BlackBerry is a national embarrassment” to you, then you have bigger issues than BlackBerry existing. The fact that can’t understand why your constant calling Chen a “buffoon” is absurd. Yeah, I can call Tim Cook garbage… you have the right to have an opinion… but you go beyond it.. you jump on EVERY BlackBerry article bashing Chen… yet likely haven’t worked in a capacity similar to his. I’m curious why should I respond to you with anything other than the garbage you post to initiate the back and forth? And you like to deflect but you’re the one that spends day and night here bashing a company you hate… if you’re looking for a joke, you might want to look in the mirror. But you’ve “made a ton of money” on BlackBerry stock.. Hahahahahah funniest thing I’ve heard all day..

      Ps. Look at the hypocrite again with the personal attacks..

    • The Iceman Cometh

      Yeah he is a buffoon. He has lousy communication skills for a person of his responsibility and his speech to a Toronto business crowd blaming Canadians for not supporting the company enough the day before lousy earnings really takes the cake. When a CEO finds it necessary to blame everyone else but himself and his predecessors its reaching the bottom of the barrel.
      You really have no idea what you’re talking about so why don’t you give your mouth a rest. You seem to enjoy hearing yourself talk in defence of this turd.

    • Chug that haterade

      Oh, but you’d have great communication skills if you went to a foreign country? And who cares if he isn’t the greatest communicator? Have you spoke on national TV before or in front of hundred of people? Let me guess, you’re perfect at everything….

      And speaking of having no idea of what you’re talking about, he wasn’t blaming Canadians for anything (especially the situation BlackBerry is in) … he was saying they should be more supportive of a “hometown” business that dumps millions of dollars back into the Canadian economy through taxes, jobs, etc.. as a matter of fact, you’re a classic example of the intended target of his comment..

    • Lil’ Cwyin’ PC Fanboi

      I think you’ve been ‘coached’, coach….

    • Chug that haterade

      Naaaw…

    • The Iceman Cometh

      The guy is clueless. Have you ever seen anyone defend a CEO the way this jarhead does? Its patently obvious he works for the outfit or at least has some tangible connection to it that he won’t disclose. No one, and I mean NO ONE, goes around defending the indefensible here let alone get hot and bothered because someone posts they don’t think Chen is doing a good job.

    • The Iceman Cometh

      Haha! Who cares if he’s a good communicator? My gawd man! This man is being paid millions and you think broken English after being in the U.S. for over 40 years is something acceptable? I think alot of people care because the criticisms of him after giving a torturous interview are innumerable, even among the bigger supporters of the brand. Public speaking skills matter if you’re going to head up an operation like this buddy. It isn’t the local 7-11 where shilling slurpees is the extent of the skill needed.

      Oh, and his comments about Canadians being unsupportive are totally uncalled for and low class. People here don’t owe a damn thing to this company after years of pissing off customers and failing to meet expectations. Individuals will buy phones that meet their needs, not because its ‘Canadian’ per se and BB has failed on that score consistently since around 2008. As far as contributing to the economy here, Chen vastly overestimates the influence and I’m sure the thousand people he’s canned since taking over would have a different take on its contribution. The company is essentially a shadow of its former self but clowns like this still think they are a powerhouse and big players at the table. Truly sad.

    • Chug that haterade

      So because he 100 percent fluent in English and isn’t a superb communicator makes him a “buffoon”? And I’m not sure what is so difficult to understand about Chen’s statement about support. He wasn’t asking Canadians to drop their iPhones to go out and buy BlackBerry… he was just asking them for a little less bashing and a little more support. You can say what you want about the layoffs at BlackBerry but they still employ thousands of employees and contribute to the Canadian economy. I never said they were a powerhouse… especially in the handset space.. but they definitely are in MDM and auto infotainment.

    • Lil’ Cwyin’ PC Fanboi

      True dat ^^^^

    • Lil’ Cwyin’ PC Fanboi

      You know why you’re always getting banned and deleted…? Longtime?
      It’s on account of your frequently intemperate and often abusive posts…ya jus’ don’t geddit, do you?

    • Chug that haterade

      Oh, but your racy racy comments are okay?

    • Lil’ Cwyin’ PC Fanboi

      I make comment good, yeah? You like?!?

    • Chug that haterade

      *yawn*

    • Lil’ Cwyin’ PC Fanboi

      You’re not getting enough sleep.

    • Chug that haterade

      Naaw.. I get a solid 7-8 hours… your comments are just boring

    • Chug that haterade

      So this ^^ is allowed to stay? Smfh

    • Lil’ Cwyin’ PC Fanboi

      Woah, dude-bro! That comment hardly warrants you flagging it.
      If you can’t stand the heat….git out of the kitchen!!!

    • Chug that haterade

      Naaw, it doesn’t belong here… just like you

    • The Iceman Cometh

      Neither do you.

    • Chug that haterade

      Oh, but you do? Laughable

    • The Iceman Cometh

      Yeah

    • Chug that haterade

      Of course you do… so what is your reasoning? Lost a boat load in BlackBerry stock? Angry former employee?

    • Lil’ Cwyin’ PC Fanboi

      You’re just bitter and angry. At life. *sigh*

    • Chug that haterade

      Naaaw.. not in the least. Life is good on my end. *Sorry*

    • Lil’ Cwyin’ PC Fanboi

      *Whatever*

    • Chug that haterade

      *dont cry*

    • Lil’ Cwyin’ PC Fanboi

      I don’t reckon there’s enough ‘haterade’ to go round; you’ve chugged ALL OF IT.

    • Chug that haterade

      Your comment must be directed at a certain other poster..

    • Lil’ Cwyin’ PC Fanboi

      LOL!

  • caky

    New blueberry phone soon be out