The CRTC will hold a hearing on Videotron’s Unlimited Music service

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  • Humbre

    Contrary to what the writer is claiming, Zero rating is NOT prohibited by the telecom act. Its exactly why the CRTC is launching this new larger proceeding.

  • TopperCNC

    The problem, in Bell’s case, was that it was zero-rating its OWN tv streaming service, which is, indeed, preferential treatment.

    Videotron is providing unlimited music streaming from OTHER providers, not its own music service. I mean, if someone uses Google Play Music on Videotron wireless, VTR does not get royalties from Google, they simply get more subscribers because it’s convenient and nice.

    • Humbre

      Indeed, this piece lacks a lot of information.

    • jayzon12

      The issue is that it gives a unfair advantage to the providers they use for music in their industry. If I wanted to start a music streaming service of my own how can I compete with the big ones that can be used without data usage on videotron.

    • TopperCNC

      Videotron is openly asking for MORE music streaming suggestions, straight on their website. I doubt it’d be hard for any new startup to get zero-rated traffic from VTR.

      If anything, the MORE partnerships VTR has, the more beneficial it is for them (luring more subs).

    • jayzon12

      Very true but than videotron becomes the gatekeeper of which ones could be successful. Maybe some are to small to add to the list therefor not able to grow big enough.

  • GottaLoveCapitalism

    T-Mobile seems to have been successful offering unlimited music & avoiding net neutrality claims because of how painfully easy they make the onboarding process for new services + how explicit they are about being open to ANY music service. If Videotron can copy that approach, don’t see why the CRTC would rule against them – don’t get the impression the onboarding process is easy and they’re not transparent about the requests they’ve received and not actioned.

    • Jon Duke

      I agree. That’s my only issue. I love the service because I use Play Music but I did suggest some and never heard back and they never got onboarded. They need to be more transparent on how to get onto the program and give timelines.

    • fmradio68

      I honestly don’t think Videotron is working very hard to get other services onboard. They just want a few very popular streaming services for marketing reasons. To say hey we got unlimited for google platy music etc,etc.

      And then they get more subs.

    • Jon Duke

      As much as it pains me to say it, I agree. They seem lazy.

  • Acrobat1991

    The problem I personally see with this (although I wish I could have zero rating for my GPM subscription) is that it’s reserved for specific, higher priced plans. I wouldn’t have any issue if a carrier would offer the same for everyone…but it’s saying “if you want this pay more”. So my data is not treated the same as my neighbor who has 2 gigs ….wand what I found funny, is that my girlfriend and I were paying more (1 gb each) that a person with 2gb but he would have this zero rating and not us.

    Wonder if others are waiting this decision to possibly offer their own similar offer!

    • Jon Duke

      True. It should apply to ALL traffic AND they should allow any service to jump in. Wide open. Maybe the CRTC will allow it if they continue that way.

    • Raion

      Doesn’t it make sense though that Unlimited Music is used as an incentive to get people to subscribe to the higher tier plans? It’s kind of the same thing as unlimited calls or texts. There has always been tiers and incentives to pay more.
      Obviously, in a perfect world, every plan would have Unlimited Music, but Vidéotron might then lose a lot of higher tier subscibers. In my case, zero rated streaming is exactly like having unlimited data (especially now that Play Music has podcasts) and that’s what prompted me to switch from my 3 Gb Bell plan. Maybe a solution would be to have Unlimited Music be an payed add-on to any plan.
      I’m only saying that Vidéotron’s approach makes sense business-Wise.

    • Acrobat1991

      Agreed, that’s exactly my point. But I wasn’t going to be forced to pay more for something that I can manage without. I just think that the CRTC might see this this way as well (that it forces the prices up if people need to pay more for data that is treated differently from one client to another). We’ll see how it goes.

    • Raion

      But nobody would need to pay more would they? It’s a choice. Who NEEDS unlimited music streaming?
      What I’d like to know is how much of it is business and how much is purely technical for Vidéotron. That is to say, could it feasibly offer unlimited data or unlimited streaming for anything below a certain bitrate? Why are only certain services included? If it’s all technical, then it may not be unfair to excluded services. If there are business deals, it’s a different matter.
      Either way, I sure hope Unlimited Music is maintained in some form.

  • Jon Duke

    So basically, they are not breaking the law and everything they are doing is legal as long as they don’t launch a music streaming app and allow only that one to be free.

    • jayzon12

      The issue with what they are doing is it gives existing large streaming services (google music or spotify) a unfair advantage over any smaller or new music streaming services.

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