Mississauga has become the latest Canadian city to ask Uber to suspend operations

Igor Bonifacic

March 2, 2016 5:45pm

Less than a week after Brampton City Council asked Uber to stop operating in the Flower City, Mississauga has decided to follow suit.

In a unanimous vote, Mississauga City Council voted to ask the popular ride-sharing service to suspend operations while the city re-evaluates its relevant bylaws.

“Innovation, technology and growth are driving competition in an established industry that has a long history of providing quality and reliable service,” said Mayor Bonnie Crombie in an interview with 680 News. “The debate about how to regulate Transportation Network Companies is not going away and we need to get it right.”

We’ve contacted Uber Canada to find out if the company intends to honour the request. We’ll update this article when we hear back from Uber.

  • Al

    I sure hope Uber doesn’t honour the request. It’s unfair to us, the consumer.

    • Mo Dabbas

      I sure hope they legalize movies and music pirating as well. It’s unfair for us, the consumer.

    • josh

      Those are very different things.

    • Mo Dabbas

      Close enough. To be closer would be my example of opening a kiosk and sell things in a busy corner of my choice. Or to open a restaurant in my apartment. How long do you think it’d take before they shut me down? Even if I made an app for them, they’ll probably still shut me down.
      I don’t mind uber as a taxi service if they were under the same regulations of taxi ones. But to label it as something else to skip those complications is not the right method of doing a business.

    • josh

      It’s not close enough. When. You pirate content, you are stealing it. When you are using Uber, you’re paying for a ride to get to where you wanna go. Very different moral choices.

      It’s fine if there’s regulation, but as long as there isn’t a degree of price fixing. It’s a neat business model as it stands. Uber offers their drivers “leads” and the driver’s pick the passengers up. Uber manages the payments and takes a cut of the proceeds as a result.

    • Mo Dabbas

      Ya. Then I’ll open a restaurant in my apartment and people will pay me for food I cook home. How long do you think this business will last?
      Anyways, here is the thing. If uber has to pay taxi fees and insurances to their drivers would they still have the same prices or pay their drivers the same rate? I don’t think so. As a matter of fact I heard they already dropped their percentages given to drivers. To the degree in one of the cities the former uber drivers created their app that works in a similar fashion. But back to the point, if it’s not regulated and there weren’t any fair competition then I don’t agree with the service.

    • josh

      Uber insures their drivers and several insurance companies are already stepping up to provide coverage for “ride sharing”.

      They may have dropped the percentage, I didn’t hear that, but it could be true. Uber also has incentives for employees. If they work during certain times, they are guaranteed $30 am hour for that particular period, for example. I’ve talked to tons of Uber drivers and they all love the company.

      People don’t use Uber for the price – they use Uber for the experience. It’s a far better experience than traditional taxis. As long as regulations don’t modify that experience, people will still use it over traditional taxis.

    • Andrew English

      It’s not required by law that Uber drivers have the proper insurance. So get your facts straight!

      Just like all the other cities and towns level of governments regulate and have bylaws for their Taxi industry allowing Uber to operate will only hurt them in the end as it gives the taxi companies grounds to sue. Which is what we are going to see in Toronto and who’s going to be left paying the bill? Us the tax payers as Uber is the illegal pirate circumventing the systems put in place by the government’s.

    • Shelley GM

      Your example of eating at someone’s home is a great one!

      Sure, there should be laws to avoid the risk to potential patrons. But when you go to someone’s home you are assuming some of that risk. If you don’t want to take the chance, don’t do it. If someone else feels comfortable with the offer, let them enjoy it.

      I am not trying to sell anyone on using or not using the service, but if Uber didn’t take such a big bite out of the industry’s market share, no one would care. At the end of the day, if you are going to cook for yourself, and choose to share the extra, it is not too different from driving a couple extra blocks…

      Should Soccer Moms be given a special license and insurance? You never know if other parents pay… 🙂

    • Rony

      what? not close enough at all. 1000 miles apart!

    • Mo Dabbas

      You are right. Services like torrent are more of a “sharing service” than uber will ever be. Users are literally sharing files (for free), unlike uber where you need to pay for “ride sharing”. what kind of sharing is that where you need to pay for the service. This ain’t the definition of sharing.

    • Brad Fortin

      “open a restaurant in my apartment”

      That sounds like a fantastic idea! Start cooking extra food every day, sell the leftovers through an app, and call it a “lunch-sharing service”! And because it’s “a technology company, not a restaurant” you won’t have to get a business license or follow food safety regulations! /s

    • Travis Pinky Mcdowell

      file sharing in Canada is 100% legal.

    • Marc Palumbo

      No it’s not. Not since January of 2015. A person cannot download movies illegally and share them, but can face a penalty of up to $5000 in Canada.

    • It’s Me

      You hit the nail on the head.

      As a consumer, I might like liquor and beer sales to be available from anywhere and that any one could just start selling booze. It would make it much more convenient for consumers and likely drive down prices. And all it would take is someone willing to blatantly flout existing laws and charging to set citizens up to sell booze out of their garages. Sure, it would violate laws. And sure it would give these private citizens an advantage over those retailers that follow the laws and bear the expenses required of them by the laws and regulations. But none of that matters so long as uberbooze markets themselves as hip and new and for the customers. They should be able to profit based entirely on the concept of violating the law and having a competitive advantage of have no expenses at all compared to those following the law.
      /sarcasm

      Everyone advocating for uber to just ignore laws is basically following the above thought process.

    • josh

      Uber is just a better service. You use an app to hail the driver, you are immediately in touch with your driver, you’re able to rate the driver so that others are aware of the driver’s performance, Google maps navigates the driver – no more taxi drivers taking you the long way – and the payment is automatic and easy. Not to mention, cheaper rates.

      If taxi companies adopt this model of convenience and driver accountability, they might survive.

    • Marc Palumbo

      I don’t pin this entirely on the taxi companies. The taxi companies are adhering to government laws. They have to make money somehow. I do blame our government and our stupid regulations. Why is it that they need to regulate every single damn thing and tax companies heavily for it. Our sad sack of a socialistic government is at fault.

      Start at the top…

    • Alain Lafond

      Yes, for sure…. Do not respect the law…. It’s the Uber way.
      It’s unfair for Uber to not pay taxes in the countries where they work…

    • Rony

      they’re two different things; not respect law or doing business in vacuum .

    • Alain Lafond

      Wow… Uber very fast on the trigger… Less that 1 minute….
      Surely, Uber’s best ability….

    • Rony

      haha. you think i’m uber? ya you’re right., i’m uber’s very satisfied costumer.

    • Marc Palumbo

      Our stupid and dumb laws and regulations are at fault here. We need to start de-regulating here. It’s 2016 for Pete’s sake!

    • Alain Lafond

      Yeah, yeah! Then when it’s gonna be the time for to ask for services (health or else), you’ll first to stand up and complain about the low level of services.
      People like you only look at their own balls and in the present time…
      And Uber know this.

    • Marc Palumbo

      This is why it’s important to get health insurance. For the amount of taxes we pay (especially in Quebec – where I live), we, as taxpayers, have no clue where that money goes. And we have the worst healthcare system. I’d rather be private and have to get my own insurance than to let my government handle that.

      I’d rather go the Uber way and let the market dictate it.

    • Alain Lafond

      I’m currently in Thailand where there’s that system you see.
      Come and see. You’ll change your mind on social justice…

    • Marc Palumbo

      I don’t need to go to a 2nd/3rd world country. Come work and pay taxes here in Canada. You’ll change your mind on socialism.

    • Alain Lafond

      I’m in Thailand on vacation and I also live in Québec.
      But as I’m here I know that Thailand is not a third world country.
      But they don’t have health system like ours. Is USA is third world country in that matter?
      Let’s follow Uber and Canada will become more like USA. Can’t wait to live Ferguson on the south shore of Montréal.

    • Marc Palumbo

      I didn’t say Thailand is a 3rd world country. I said I don’t need to visit 2nd/3rd world countries. Moreover, I did not say we need to be the USA. They have their own issues to deal with. Our health system is terrible. For the amount of taxes we pay, we should have some of the best. But have you ever gone to Maisonneuve Rosemont hospital for an emergency? I have, and I’ve waited there 2 and a half days for them to apply a cast on my broken leg. I’m not even kidding about the 2 days. They had to keep me overnight twice because they didn’t have a doctor to put a cast.

      If I have health insurance, I would be covered under private practices or hospitals, so I would be getting a service with little wait. We have private dental services in Quebec. Do you have issues with your dentists? No. You make an appointment or go for an emergency and your with your dentist within 5 minutes.

    • Alain Lafond

      True, nobody wants to pay for services.
      Do you know what is Obama care plan?
      Do you know how much you have to pay for health insurance to receive that bad Québec service?
      In a society where only the strongest survive, all others are hoping for the best that will never come…

    • Marc Palumbo

      Honestly, I have no clue what you’re saying. I don’t really care for Obamacare because I’m not American and/or I don’t work and reside in the USA. Alain, I think you have to be crazy and ignorant to not understand that we do not have a good healthcare system. The fact that we have practically little to no doctors in hospitals and that I would need to be bleeding internally to get checked is absurd for us. With the amount of taxes I pay, I (as a person, not just me) should be receiving the best healthcare possible. But I don’t because everything is so damn regulated here that our doctors don’t even bother practicing here. They go elsewhere.

      Anyways, I digress. I feel that our system of which involves regulations and tax burdens put a strain on competition. We are forced to pay the same price for all taxi services instead of being able to choose. That, in my opinion, sucks.

  • Mo Dabbas

    We should really stop calling it a “ride sharing service”. Uber drivers job are not different from a taxi drivers’ job. If I pay for a person it’s no longer sharing. When I share a ride with a friend I usually don’t ask him for taxi fare that is about 15-20% lower (what pretty much uber rates are). Worst case I ask to split gas that I put during the trip (if it’s a long trip). Uber is a form of Taxi service. And I agree with the mayor, it should be regulated and organize such service before doing it.
    I can’t just open a kiosk on a busy corner of my choice and start selling things. If I do, how long do you think I would last before somebody from the government employee or police come and tell me to move it??

    • ShaBi

      The funniest part is there’s absolutely no sharing of ride at all.

  • Adderbox76

    Mom: “Don’t Hitch-hike! Don’t Get into the car with unlicensed strangers! You’ll get robbed or murdered!”

    Millennial: “But Mom, there’s an APP involved. In this day and age, if it has an APP, it’s totally cool and fundamentally safe! The APP makes all the difference.”

    Mom: “Okay then…have fun dear.”

    Millennials….yeesh.

    • josh

      The drivers are vetted by Uber. It’s really no different than getting into a cab.

    • Mo Dabbas

      Uber is new and so the dirty laundry is not exposed yet. There are already stories in the US about uber drivers contacting people on their Facebook to flirt with them (or ask their friend if she’s single). There are already stories about some of the uber drivers were charged previously of driving under influence and people were questioning uber’s background check methods. So yeah, the business is young and we are yet to witness it’s ugly side.

    • josh

      And there have been tons of sexual assault allegations and charges against cab drivers. There’s a risk either way when you’re getting in the car with a stranger.

    • Marc Palumbo

      Ya he didn’t think that one through. I’d rather trust Uber driver than a taxi driver.

    • Omar

      One uber driver just went on a murderous rampage in the states last month…

    • josh

      Anyone can have a mental breakdown. Uber does have a good screening process. It’s unfortunate that this guy did this, but it could have happened anywhere.

      Also, this is the US where this stuff is far more likely to happen.

    • HelloCDN

      Lol you must be one of those retired people who have nothing better to do than complain about millennials.

    • josh

      Ya, it really drives me crazy.

  • Jason

    this is fine as long as they dont take years to redo the bylaws

  • Pixie Dust

    Taxi Companies = Blockbuster
    Uber = Netflix
    Future…. Inevitable

  • Andrew English

    I spent the fines in Mississauga are $5k for the Uber drivers and it’s passengers if caught.

  • Marc Palumbo

    Let’s be fair in this discussion.

    1) Any driver, taxi or Uber, can be a threat to someone’s life and this argument cannot be used. If you are so afraid, then don’t step out your front door.

    2) Governments getting mad over non-regulated taxi services are crying about loss of tax money and nothing else. This has nothing to do with public safety.

    This is the same argument over buying products online through Amazon because it’s cheaper. Those store fronts don’t have to pay taxes, rent and suffer from little overhead. Better yet, they don’t have to see their customers face to face. And to those same people arguing against Uber, please go ahead and claim any income earned from garage sales, Kijiji. People are starting to become choosy over what is acceptable and what isn’t in what the world is trying to be a free market.

    • Aaron Hoyland

      I’m not sure that’s entirely fair. We don’t live in a completely free market. The government regulates certain industries for a variety of reasons (public safety, consumer interest, price regulation, etc.) I also think you’re wildly overestimating how much tax revenue municipal governments get from taxis.

      I love Uber as a service, but I’m also aware that they’re operating in an area somewhere between legally-grey and outright illegal. The problem is that taxis can’t compete with Uber because they’re regulated. We can’t flippantly tell taxis companies to “modernize or die” when they’re legally prevented from doing many of those things.

    • Marc Palumbo

      That’s what I’m saying though. We’re the furthest thing away (maybe not the furthest, but we’re far) from a free market and that’s what I hate.

      That area you spoke of, is a problem here and some other places, but not all places. I think that at some point, taxis would need to de-regulate in order to survive. The people that would lose are the municipal governments. I live in Montreal and the taxes I pay on my home is digusting, so I know that Montreal makes a boatload of money from taxes. And we also have one of the most corrupt municipal governments in North America. So no… I don’t feel bad.

  • HelloCDN

    This is why Canada is into a recession now. The only industry who could get through these ridiculous government regulations was oil and gas. Once they tanked, our country went straight into a hole, because all other businesses are simply unable to compete worldwide. This Mississauga decision is just another proof. We’re gonna sit here, watching the rest of the world evolve and getting ahead. But hey, if the taxi drivers get to keep their jobs through government protection, I can also request protection the next time the marketing industry, where I work, goes through a major shift… Right? Right?

  • barrist

    seems there’s alot of taxi drivers or taxi driver family members on Mobile Syrup.. makes sense–they gotta keep on top of the latest in mobile tech so they can continue yelling into their bluetooth headset while you’re in the car with them.