BlackBerry ‘Venice’ slider tipped for a November release

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  • dc2000

    why so late? I’ll die of old age by then. I love the BlackBerry’s, currently on the classic and had the passport… I wanted to retire both for this next month, but NOVEMBER?! fine, make me wait. BUT atleast increase the ram to 4GB! make the battery life atleast 3500mAh, and promise me I can pick up a white one from day one. Actually, RELEASE a bright red one like you did with the passport… Chen, are you listening? I’m a BlackBerry fan for 10yrs+ and always had some kind of blackberry in my pocket as either a daily driver or secondary backup phone for emails… But seriously… NOVEMBER?! •_•

    • Forgo

      There’s reasons why they release the Red and White later, and nothing really runs 4GB ram, I doubt anyone want want to be hard-core gaming on any smartphone with a keyboard taking half the real estate.

      One thing BB has going for them is battery life though, I’ve used a passport before as a work device, and lasts me 4 days easily,

    • dc2000

      Nothing has 4GB of ram? One Plus Two, Samsung Galaxy Note 5/s6 Edge+, The Xiomi Note 5 that’s going to be revealed, Asus ZenFone, Elephone Vowney, lenevo K80, to name a few off the top of my head.

    • Martin Chan

      We don’t know yet, but that’s on the Android OS. Which easily more hogging than my BB10. That’s just a non scientific approach.

    • Anthony Roberts

      Dc2000 he means that nothing utilizes 4GB of ram in terms of any game or app out there…he didn’t mean there is no device with 4GB of RAM. Personally no app or game needs it for Christ sake….that’s a lot for a phone…

    • dc2000

      Keep in mind: 2GB for my BlackBerry classic isn’t enough, if I have Spotify, Instagram and the browser opened with lets say 3 tabs, if I minimize the browser and go to Instagram for 5 mins all my browser tabs close(assuming because of ram being only 2gb). My old Note 4 had 3gb, almost half of it was being used by TW.. I can only imagine this BlackBerry would have some kind of skin(HUB, “bb” experience, etc).. which leads me to believe it’ll be like the not 4, and be sluggish after a while with too many apps opened. With 4GB, even if this thing uses 1.5GB for B/S reasons like the hub, or other BlackBerry things or a skin and would still leave us with 2.5-3GB of ram..

    • November? Simple: Black Friday!

    • dc2000

      No no, I get it. It’s just frustrating. November just seems so far away. It’s not like they have to wait for SD820 chips, or wait for a new screen tech to come out. They should just reveal it NOW(considering this sort of competes with the Samsung Galaxy s6 Edge+) then bring it to market by Sept/early Oct at the latest but by then we will see devices with SD820 out so the 808 will be a bit behind in raw processing power when it comes to an Android.

    • I just hope that whenever they release it it’s available unlocked; and in Canada.

  • Forgo

    Take everything people ask for and throw it together!

    – Android with Google Play Services. Check!
    – Physical Keyboard. Check!
    – Front facing speakers. Check!
    – Top End Display Hardware. Check!
    – Top End Camera Hardware. Check!
    – Battery life (808 Chip less toll on battery). Check!
    – Curved Screen (No one asked, but Samsung) Check!
    – Bing intergration (Who the F*** uses Bing, but $$$) Check!

    Want more of :

    – SD Card Support, Google influence says it won’t, but Blackberry has been supportive of this and aims for enterprise market, many of which cares of such support.
    – Blackberry Hub. Will this cross over into Android? Will this make it to playstore? (Instant download for me if it does)

    • ChuLipso

      “Blackberry Hub. Will this cross over into Android?”

      They suggested it absolutely would (and would make its way to other platforms as well). Dubbed “Blackberry Experience Suite”. It’s unsure whether it’s going to be through a playstore or other means though.

    • I hope that screen shot means it will be Google Play but their current alliance with Amazon makes me wonder. If I loose access to all the content I’ve bought through Google then no matter how good the phone is I’m not interested.

    • Mo Dabbas

      From what I know amazon fire os only has amazon app store. It doesn’t have Google play store. So if these shots are accurate we’ve got an android phone with Google play store.

    • Matt

      you were already able to install Googe Play store on other Blackberry 10 devices since the 10.3 update. And all google apps work fine and all my previous paid apps are working fine on the Classic.

    • That’s re-assuring!

    • JB

      Storage really is the last question. I hope it is sd compatible, if not than I hope 64gb internal.

      Everyone but Daniel Bader is excited.

    • Matt

      I’m really excited about this new Blackberry Android Device and it’s about time they finally got there heads out of their @ss and finally coming out with a device that people have been asking for several years now. They should of done this long ago before releasing the Z10 which this new android blackberry device would of saved them long ago and made them profitable with loads and loads of cash and once this device is released, just watch and see how much Blackberry’s stock sky rockets too.

      I will be picking up one of these on day 1 once it hits into a Canadian Carrier store. But one major thing that will make or break my decision is it better have a micro SD for external memory cause if not that won’t cut it for me, which was the major reason why I didn’t get the new Samsung S6. and if Samsung is gonna continue down that route with no more External micro Sd card memory. Then Samsung will never have my business ever again. Which this is why I dislike Apple’s Iphone’s.

    • AppleBerrySandwich

      Could end up being a monster sales hit if this phone is all that it seems to be. I’m pretty excited – I hope they have a hit!

    • dolsh

      When you see a picture of the top of the device, you’ll be happy. 😉

  • Andrew English

    One step forwards two steps back. That’s what BBRY does with their new devices. The Snap dragon 808 is an old chip now, and the rest of the device looks like it was made by slave workers in China…it looks cheap yet they plan to make a lot from it.

    • tonge

      Raci$t comment

    • Tickul

      Snapdragon 808 has similar performance to 810 but avoids the overheating issues and maintains a more consistent experience.

    • LudwigVanBeethoven

      It’s another phone that will flop for these guys. Had they done this with Android 4 years ago might’ve been a different story.

    • HarpersMafia

      Hey iTard, still trolling BlackBerry I see. You should get back on your medication, change your depends and leave the thinking to people with brain cells that still function.

    • Kris

      Why don’t you shut your mouth once and for all. You never seem to post anything of value here except to attack a particular poster with juvenile taunts. How old are you anyways?

    • HarpersMafia

      Go fück yourself

    • LudwigVanBeethoven

      I rest my case. Lunatic.

    • HarpersMafia

      Still smoking bone at the seniors home?

    • LudwigVanBeethoven

      Pay that !diot no heed. He’s obviously mentally imbalanced as evidenced by his latent homosexual tendencies coupled with some obvious hatred for the same and the stupid moniker he uses out here.

    • HarpersMafia

      “Pay no heed”
      Holy geezer comments… hahahahaha

    • LudwigVanBeethoven

      It’s called a vocabulary. Read much you clown? Obviously not.

    • HarpersMafia

      It must be hard to read with a pole in your mouth all day.

    • Kris

      Flag this !diot.

    • Forgo

      Just read your own post as a reply to your post.

      Why do people always resort to name calling on a discussion forum.

    • Kris

      Read your own post as a reply to your post? That makes no sense.
      This guy HarperMafia is a cancer on these forums. He has absolutely nothing to say about the stories he posts on. Just attacking one or two posters with juvenile nonsense.

      Why don’t you point the finger where it belongs and not me okay.

    • Futer

      hahahahaha

    • Forgo

      You would be surprised, this phone, barring some insane misjudgement in specs, will sell like hotcakes.

      Target market includes

      – nostalgic blackberry users
      – keyboard loyalists who have been waiting for such device since leaving blackberry.
      – older crowd, physical keyboard is something they can handle over touchscreen.
      – BYOD work device

      All blackberry has to do is so a better job at training and having presence at each store and make sure reps know the phone inside out.

    • LudwigVanBeethoven

      Nostalgic for what? This is basically a revised version of the Torch model and that was a major flop. Phones with moving parts are not the future but only time will tell I guess. I don’t see it

    • Forgo

      Not the future is pretty much the definition of nostalgic.

      You would be surprised at the amount of consumers going into cell phone shops asking for a physical keyboard,

      Like I said, all it takes now is more awareness by the selling rep and BlackBerry should be keeping a strong hold on the #3 spot in Canada.

    • Kris

      The demand for physical keyboards on a mobile device is nowhere near the demand it once was. A few here and there but that era in cell phones is over.

    • Forgo

      On consumer and tech savvy crowds, yes, the demand has died.

      But the major reason why BlackBerry is stil alice today is the enterprise market,

      The passport, and classic may not have done well in consumer, but both are doing well enough in the enterprise market to survive.

      If my work did not provide me with a work device. I would be using the passport myself.

      Try it, and you won’t forget it.

    • LudwigVanBeethoven

      I used a Passport in February/March of this year and forgot about it fast. It’s form factor is ugly and a key reason it never caught on with anyone.

      As far as enterprise goes, the only BB devices I see out there are legacy devices because certain workplaces mandate it but beyond that the Android/iOS presence easily beats out BB by a margin of 5 to 1. Even new enterprise activations are dominated by the former versus the latter. You overestimate this company’s presence in business because it’s not what it used to be anymore.

    • Matt

      yep I have to agree. When I first used the Z10 I really like it, but only thing that was lacking was the apps I like from Android. And then I got rid of the Z10 for another Android because I needed the Apps I enjoy. But since 3 weeks ago. I went to pick up a Blackberry Classic to test out the new 10.3 update. And after doing a few minutes of research online I came across a way to install Google Play store onto the Blackberry Classic. And all android apps can be installed directly from Google play store and all apps work perfect. And I’ve been really really enjoying using the Classic and nothing beats typing on a real awesome keyboard and I’ve got the best of both worlds. Android apps and a awesome keyboard. But I’m very excited to be getting the newest Blackberry Venice. I really like Blackberry’s for the Keyboard and Blackberry’s Hub is awesome too.. But now will be very awesome to have everything Blackberry has to offer plus having the actual Android OS will make a killer device

    • Futer

      what about bb10?

    • TheTruth

      Fantastic! I just mad £100 off your trolling bro. Told a friend I bet him £100 u’d be here talking smack and I won yeeeeeeaaaaahhhhhh!

      I gonna make money off u to buy this phone so please keep doing what u do best. Lol

      T I like fiction.. it’s good to take risks sometimes. Lol

      Thanks.

    • Anthony Roberts

      LMAO What is wrong with you hardware spec junkies….the 808 processor is being utilized in 2015 (LG G4)…how is that old?!??! 6 Cores people is WAY WAY MORE THAN ENOUGH POWER!!! What you android users should care about or any user with any platform is software updates….not the processor. People even the Moto X 2013 with the S4 pro processor dual core 1.7GHZ and Adreno 320 GPU can be upgraded to Lollipop 5.1 and runs like a dream!!

    • JB

      +1

    • freddysrevng2

      Right on, Ant….preech!

    • Anthony Roberts

      Thanks 😉

  • tonge

    The keyboard looks flat and difficult to type on

    • Fufu

      Your opinion with have never tried the device yet

    • Futer

      and so what? he gave an opinion

    • LudwigVanBeethoven

      Some people forget these boards are all about opinion. Not a lecture hall where knowledge and wisdom is to be imparted in great quantity.

  • Jonah Emery

    Well this is kind of exciting. The reason why I never switched back to Blackberry is because of a lack of music subscription services like Spotify. Sure you can run it in emulation but it was slow and crashed a lot. I wonder how going Android will affect their reputation for security though?

    • Forgo

      Judging launch date, it will be after Android Marshmellow release that could be paired with the new security that Google and Blackberry had been working on.

      Blackberry wouldn’t commit to a device if they can’t secure it.

    • Matt

      I have Spotify on my Blackberry Classic since your able to install Google Play Store now since 10.3 update. And my spotify works perfect. Actually works better on my Classic then it did on a Android Device I had before.

    • Jonah Emery

      I’m glad it works for you. But in my same experience on a Classic it was not good enough; not matching the experience on an Android or iPhone.

    • Matt

      which version of spotify did you get it from?

    • Jonah Emery

      Don’t remember version but got it from the Amazon store, and some apk site.

    • Matt

      That’s probably why your spotify was buggy. Probably downloaded a buggy apk file. Try installing the actual google play store onto your classic and download the official spotify app. Which this is which I’ve done and works perfect

  • Zee

    At this point Blackberry is just throwing darts at a board and hoping something sticks

    • LudwigVanBeethoven

      You said it. Maybe we should reserve judgement on this until it comes out but otherwise I still believe it’s several years too late.

    • dc2000

      This thing will sell quite well I’d imagine… just simply: android, with a curved QHD screen and FRONT facing speakers, I already notified my friends of this, some were genuinely interested!

    • Matt

      yep me too. I’m very excited to get one on release day.

    • dc2000

      +1, here’s hoping they releasing a white one on day one. I’d drop $50 more for a full red one like the passport…

  • G.P.

    I see multiple comments here on how Blackberry should die, blah blah blah. All I can say is, who else is innovative in the mobile world other than Samsung making a Curve display and adding an S Pen? I rather think that BB is doing quite well to innovate and push others to do the same. Just because you don’t sell as much as Apple doesn’t mean you can’t come out with your own product to stand out in a crowd. HTC should take note of that.

    • Kris

      But if your product isn’t selling and you aren’t making money then there is no point. This company isn’t making money selling any of the hardware and making it just for nostalgia sake isn’t a smart business strategy

    • Jimmy Kav

      But Android phones don’t make any money? The margins are tiny, or if your HTC, Zero

    • Kris

      No one makes money on OS anymore and Samsung has other revenue sources beyond smartphones that keep them in business. I can’t speak for HTC and while I understand your point the fact remains that BB does rely heavily on revenue from hardware to stay afloat. If they are going to continue they need to sell something that will generate a profit. Otherwise investors will never make money and the company will just continue to see its revenue dwindle until they have nothing.
      This company doesn’t have the luxury of watching that happen unless their software business picks up serious steam to make up the lost income. The jury is still out on that strategy.

    • Matt

      well its not for Nostalgia anymore. They are going after the Android loyalists to get them to come back to Blackberry. Which the new Blackberry Venice will be exactly the same as any other Android device and apps etc. but they’ll have an awesome keyboard to be able to type out long emails, messages way easier than a touch keyboard. And they’ll be able to play android games on a big screen as well.

    • Jimmy Kav

      A company that cares about personal and corporate security that gets so much hate – its laughable. I’ll stick with my BB10 Passport, i hope this is released as a dual OS phone.

    • Matt

      Well to be quite honest, Blackberry will do very well on this new device. Way better than HTC has been doing lately. Last I heard HTC is in Money troubles and laying off thousands of employees. Blackberry has made lay offs long ago. But just you watch people. This device may be Blackberry’s big come back, and will get alot of old customers back. I for one am very impressed with the Blackberry Classic which I found a way to install Google play store to it, and all android apps work perfect. And a lot of Android apps surprisingly work a lot better on the Blackberry Classic than they do on a Android Device which is pretty funny actually. Like Spotify I find works way better on my Classic then it did on a Android device which was slow and buggy. But on the Classic is loads quicker and its a lot smoother.

    • dolsh

      Long ago? Not really true.

  • Bri Bru

    I really hope BB makes a comeback with this device. I’m concerned about the material choice though.. it looks like plastic. But we’ll see about that soon.

  • Francis.F

    I think the 808 is fine with 3gb of ram
    lets hope its got 32gb standard with micro sd card support i’d wait on buying the blackberry passport or if the passport also comes with android id get that also in Silver Edition

    • Anthony Roberts

      All BB flagships will have 32GB ROM so no worries there and will have micro SD Card slot :). I have a strong feeling that 10.3.3 will have some Full android support in BB10 with google services but again assumptions…

  • Futer

    the keyboard looks flat and like you’re typing on rocks. this doesn’t look like a BB keyboard

    • vn33

      I think that’s a render .. let’s wait until we have actual picture of the device to see what it really looks like. I wouldn’t mind a hardware k/b on my phone.

    • Matt

      ya exactly, the picture is probably just from a prototype. But the actual released device may be way way better.

    • Jimmy Kav

      its a render

  • Tony

    Honestly, If I wasn’t stuck with an iPhone I would seriously consider grabbing one of these.

    • Matt

      who ever says your stuck on any device. you can go out and get what ever device you so choose to want lol

    • Tony

      I have a corporate issued device. I can’t choose any device I want. Only iOS or Windows Phone devices. And really…that’s not any choice at all.

    • Matt

      You seem like a dumb person lol lol. WHo ever said you can’t use your own device for personal use. and then use your work phone for work purposes lmao lol. This is what I do for my Business use. I have a Blackberry Classic for Business use for the security reasons. and the Keyboard because of all the hundreds of emails and messages per day and its much easier and faster to type on a real keyboard as oppose to a touch screen device. and a Android Device for personal use.

    • Tony

      You seem like a fool who has very narrow minded ways of looking at how things work. I choose not to carry two devices because I’ve done it in the past and it sucks. I don’t have the pocket space to keep two devices on me at all times. My bill gets paid, I have unlimited data and don’t have to worry about keeping two different charge/sync cables with me at all times.

    • Matt

      ya but the problem is a lot of companies don’t like employees using company phones for personal use. like calling friends or texting friends on a company phone. And a lot of companies don’t like employees downloading apps onto a company phone which could lead to security risks from spyware etc. And a lot of companies don’t like employees using personal email accounts on a company device either which could also lead to spyware being installed onto the company device if a spam personal email is opened and spyware is automatically installed onto company device and can lead to company sensitive information being leaked out. So obviously I’m not a dumb person. I’m quite the tech person. which is why everyone in my company uses a company phone only for work purposes, and they must do their personal calls, texts, emails etc on their own personal devices. work phone is for work only. We don’t pay them to make personal calls, texts emails from my company money or time.

    • Tony

      My company not only allowed me to port my number in, personal use is expected because they gave me that option. So it does not make any sense for me to carry two devices. I have the luxury, you do not. It’s that simple.

      BTW, I’m an IT Admin. I manage our MDM as well.

  • Elias Chiddicks

    Well, if all they do is make a decent email client for Android then this project will have been well worth it, in my eyes.

    • LudwigVanBeethoven

      The email client for BB 10 wasn’t very good either. I used to receive emails faster using the Mail client on iOS than on the Passport I had several months ago.

    • Columbo

      Based on your post history there’s no way in hell you’ve ever owned a Passport but thanks for the insight.

    • LudwigVanBeethoven

      Yeah okay. I guess you can’t accept that a person who used it wouldn’t feel the same way as you do about it. Pretty narrow minded on your part.

    • Columbo

      I’ve actually never used a Passport. I’m happy to hear differing opinions from honest people. But you’ve been a BB troll through and through since day 1 (hey, how convenient, your post history is private!) so there’s no way you owned a Passport and this is just more trolling. But thx again for the insight.

    • LudwigVanBeethoven

      Hey. I make no secret of the fact I don’t like this company or its products but that hasn’t prevented me from trying them out and I have. I wouldn’t have such a strong opinion if I didn’t.
      Believe whatever you want but not everyone who uses the hardware is enamoured with it okay.

    • Columbo

      I believe that, I just don’t believe you’ve ever used it.

      Unblock your post history (what are you afraid of) and we can see if there’s evidence that you’re more than just a troll – but I bet you won’t!

    • LudwigVanBeethoven

      My post history has nothing to do with this. Lol. Stop trying to make it about me when I fully disclosed my dislike of the company or its products.
      At the end of the day I don’t care whether you believe me or not. Like I said not everyone who has used a BB phone lately has to like it. Any assertion to the contrary is ignorant and/or simple minded.
      You think people who use this stuff have to like it and if they don’t they must not have used it and that’s just bunk

    • Columbo

      I’ve never disagreed with your assertion, I fully believe that lots of people have tried BB and not liked it. Lots! When have I said otherwise? But… you’re not one of them!

    • TheStarChamber

      Rimtard alert ^^^^^^

    • Matt

      NO sorry buddy. I’ve actually tested numerous devices. such as a iphone, Blackberry Classic, and a Android side by side to see how fast i’d receive an email. and every single time the emails have always come in way faster on the Blackberry Classic. And second would be received on the Android Device. And Iphone would always be last. Iphones have never had got email service

    • LudwigVanBeethoven

      Sorry buddy. Just not true but that’s your experience. Not mine.

    • dolsh

      Chalk that up to BES or AS configuration. I see email on my BB way before any other device/desktop right now.

  • Andrew

    Assuming this BlackBerry has the Hub and has better security features than vanilla Android or is running BB10 (both have their positives and negatives and I have used both) I will buy it as soon as it’s out. Sucks that it sounds like it won’t be out until November though :(. I’m in the minority these days for who must have a physical keyboard so BlackBerry is really the only choice for me.

    • dc2000

      Yeah! November?! BlackBerry this phone is already leaked! No point in waiting, just reveal it(but obv don’t release it if it isn’t ready) so we can get some concrete info. The cat’s out of the bag by now Chen/BlackBerry…

    • Matt

      Ya would of been really awesome if Blackberry released it now before school season started which the month of August is when all the parents of High school Students and college and university students buy all their new devices for the new school year. But I guess Blackberry is counting on the Christmas rush, and Boxing day blow out shopping day when everyone is out shopping for Christmas and Boxing Day.

    • dolsh

      It probably needs more testing…I’m kind of jazzed about November. That’s earlier than I would have guessed.

    • dc2000

      They are always late.. they have renders, video now + shown the test unit in march. it’s ready to go, just launch it. I’m dying to retire this BlackBerry classic and my Note 4 for a Note 4+BB Classic keyboard. Shut up and take my money!

  • fruvous

    3GB RAM for an Android device? What are they thinking?

    • Anthony Roberts

      The Moto X 2013 has 2GB of RAM and an old S4 pro 1.7 dual core processor and has android 5.1 and runs smooth and everything launches quickly so what’s your point???

  • tedstriker3

    i will buy this phone

  • OU812

    I have been following the Slider since its rumored inception and quite stoked that its finally almost come into fruition. For me, I just hope Blackberry comes out with a pure os10 device, as I have no interests in android. I understand from a business standpoint why they are steering towards droid, but os10 would also sell quite well. The opinions here are very polarizing, but
    what I dont understand is why the full on hatred for this company. I mean, no business or company entity owes anybody anything. People has the choice to use anything, and we are extremely lucky with lots of options, unlike in a lot of various poor countries I have been. There’s a fine line between opinions and hatred. If these people hate on Blackberry so much why not just leave, instead of imposing their hatred opinion on forums.

    To BlackBerry, I say ” F!?$!!” the mob rules mentality. Android and IOS are the flavor of today, and with all things technological its cyclical. BB10 is still in its infancy but will grow n mature over time. Those who think Blackberry will dump 10 for droid completely, dont really understand anything, other than to just make noise and insight responses.

  • Sedfree

    why android. I super love the blackberry 10 OS. it really makes me rethink if im buying this phone considering I have the passport and leap. and now going to an android phone? gggrrrrr