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Apple announces the iPhone 5C and iPhone 5S, coming to Canada on September 20th

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As expected, Apple has unveiled two new iPhones today, the iPhone 5S and iPhone 5C.

The widely-leaked phones speak to two different markets, with the more expensive 5S maintaining the same premium build, internal specs and price as the former iPhone 5, while the 5C enters the market as a so-called lower-cost variant.

First, the iPhone 5C. It will be available in green, yellow, blue, white and red. Apple claims that there are no seams or joints in the device — it is made with a single piece of “hard-coated” polycarbonate.

It has a 4-inch display with the same 1136×640 pixel resolution as the iPhone 5. It also has the same A6 chip and 1GB of RAM of the iPhone 5. There’s a new HD FaceTime camera on the front and an 8MP iSight camera on the back with BSI, IR filter and 5-element lens. Looks to be the same one as the iPhone 5, too.

It will also have full LTE connectivity and dual-band WiFi along with Bluetooth 4.0.

The company is touting the iPhone 5C as an introductory phone for many users, and the device will come with a variety of cases for $29 each. The cases, and the

The 16GB iPhone 5C will be $99 on a 2-year contract, while the 32GB will be $199 (all prices in USD).

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The second phone on the docket today is the iPhone 5S.

The iPhone 5S has a 4-inch 1136×640 pixel IPS display, identical in size and resolution to the current iPhone 5. What’s different is tantamount to the typical evolution of an iPhone: a faster processor, improved camera, colour additions and, yes, a fingerprint scanner.

According to Apple, it’s the “most forward-thinking phone we’ve ever created.” It comes in a new gold colour, in addition to the existing white and slate.

Probably the most important improvement is the A7 chip, a 64-bit SoC that’s “the first ever of its kind in a smartphone.” It has over one billion transistors and a modern instruction set — this is truly a computer, just shrunk to a 102mm squared die size.

While apps will have to be re-engineered to support the new instruction sets, it opens up a number of possibilities for mobile computing (can’t wait to see what the A7X is capable of in the new iPad this fall).

To the layman, it means that the A7 CPU and GPU are twice as fast as the iPhone 5′s A6. The new GPU supports OpenGL 3.0, which is one of the newest programming frameworks for 3D games (which also came recently to Android 4.3).

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There’s also something called the M7, a chip that works alongside the A7 to measure motion data, accelerometer, gyroscope and compass. It works with the newest generation of health and fitness apps such as Nike+ Move, to track all of your movement. This works instead of a Fitbit.

The iPhone 5S promises 10 hours of battery life from LTE browsing and 3G talk time, along with 40 hours of music playback and a staggering 250 hours of standby. Similar to last year’s model.

The new camera is also improved over the former model, with a wider f/2.2 aperture and bigger pixels despite the 8MP resolution. This lets in more light — a 15% larger active sensor area — which automatically makes better photos from the same lighting scenarios. There’s also a digital form of image stabilization, and a new burst mode at up to 10fps. The software analyzes multi-photo series and chooses the best one. This is similar to Best Shot from the HTC One and Galaxy S4.

To make low-light photos better, there’s an update two-colour flash that purports to be less overwhelming and warmer on the skin. It also works together to create more uniform colours, with up to 1,000 variations in intensity.

The camera support 120fps slow motion (slo-mo) as well at 720p, and the built-in editor can speed up or slow down certain parts of the video for a great effect.

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Perhaps the most important addition to the device is a digital fingerprint scanner. That ring around the mechanical home button indicates when it’s being used. Called Touch ID, “it reads your fingerprint at an entirely new level,” with 500ppi resolution and 360 degree readability.

The use cases are many, and Apple says Touch ID has been deeply integrated into iOS 7. It allows you to authenticate purchases using just a slight depression of the home button. There is a sapphire crystal lens that takes a photo of a user’s fingerprint and analyzes it for consistency.

In Apple tradition, Touch ID can be used by multiple people, and sensitive information is not stored on Apple’s servers at all. All data is encrypted, too.

The iPhone 5S maintains the same price points (at least in the US) as before: 16GB for $199, 32GB for $299 and 64GB for $399 on a 2-year contract. Expect similar pricing in Canada.

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It will be available in Canada on September 20th, with pre-orders beginning this Friday, September 13th.

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  • alphs22

    All the leaks kind of take the surprise away from these announcements.

    • Alex

      Because it’s totally unneeded.

    • BB BB

      YES it not necessary on a system with less than 4GB of ram. Did Apple put > 4GB of RAM in the 5S/C nope. is iOS7 64-bit ?

    • Nadefrenzy

      iOS 7 IS actually 64 bit.. maybe if u watched the press conference.

    • badtaco

      He’s a bb fan , what else could you expect?

    • phreezerburn

      +1 here but from a purely marketing standpoint they do get to say it’s “The Fastest iPhone YET!!!” once again.

    • Alex

      In real use it might actually be worse performing.

      I’m highly skeptical they’ve totally rewritten iOS to be 64bit “optimized” and even if they have, no apps outside the official ones will be 64bit for the foreseeable future.

      It also struck me as a pretty pointless move. The point, usually, of 64bit is to address the problems that occur when you go over ~4GB RAM as 32bit systems can not address more than that. However the phones Apple have out at the moment don’t even have 4GB RAM let alone more.

      And then…as apps get “updated” or rewritten to 64bit you’ll still have millions of older devices out there that will still need/prefer 32bit.

    • Josh Brown

      When do you make that move then? At some point you have to start, dont you?

    • Alex

      If you create a whole new OS (or major non-backwards compatible version) then it’s the place to start. A clean break basically.

      Doing it in the middle with OS’es ported back to older devices will make it a bit of a mess in my view.

      It’s not an easy thing to do on the fly. We’ve been having 32 and 64 bit versions of Windows since around XP and that’s over a decade ago.

    • Josh Brown

      So you buy a brand new $700 phone and it cant be updated? That sucks.

    • Josh Brown

      That is actually impressive, they beat Androids to the punch.

    • danbob999

      how so?

    • jroc

      Because it’s the first 64 bit processor. Pretty simple.

    • danbob999

      Yeah but what if it’s still slower than current CPUs even with 64 bit?
      It’s like a new car with more horsepower but less torque and less acceleration. What’s the point?

    • jroc

      That is not part of the discussion. You asked how they beat android to the punch, I answered. There was never any talk of cpu speed so it’s irrelevant.

    • danbob999

      To beat someone you must be better. 64 bit is not necessarly better.
      Nintento 64′s two successors were 32 bit and were faster.

    • jroc

      Dude, beating someone and beating someone to the punch are two totally different things.

      I am confident that you’ll be able to figure out what the latter means, but let me know if I should I explain the difference to you.

    • barrist

      Kind of like how Android runs on high end quad core SOC’s, still laggy and stuttering?

    • Josh Brown

      So why is A bunch of Android OEM’s releasing it next year with 4GB ram which 32bit can still handle?

    • Josh Brown

      Because a car with more HP and lower torque and acceleration will still go faster at top speed even though it will take longer to get there.

      Bad analogy.

    • Alex

      Which is really useful with the 1GB ram in it.

      Seriously. L2computers

    • jroc

      Seriously. Learn to comprehend.

      Never did I say it was useful or necessary. All I did was answer someone’s question about what they beat android to the punch on, which is implementing a 64 bit processor, all uselessness aside.

    • Josh Brown

      Is a 8 core processor really needed? any new technology has to start somewhere. So to perfect it they need to start putting it in phones now so everything else can catch up. No one ever said it was a useful feature, we just said na iPhone had it before a samsung or HTC or LG.

    • Alex

      WP8 has shown, if you can optimize your software, you only need a basic dual core for a full, slick experience.

    • Josh Brown

      Yes but at one point we all had 500 mhz processors and 256mb ram and those os worked pretty good, should we have just stuck with them then? You guys complain about lag, yet you also complain when the processors get faster. if we all still had the 500mhz processors you would not see any of the new features we have to day.

    • Alex

      I have no complaint with things getting faster. The concern is whether going to 64-bit architecture will achieve what Apple thinks it will.

    • Josh Brown

      All I said is that iPhone put a 64 bit chip in a phone before and Android OEM did!

      That is actually impressive, they beat Androids to the punch.

      I never said that made the iPhone better, I never argued that it made it faster.

    • Josh Brown

      Doesn’t the Moto X have a Dual Core and run smooth as well. But does it have split screen apps?

    • Jonathan Schmitt

      Yeah but the thing that is going to make KitKat huge is the fact that Google wants it to work with more phones..Going forward and backwards.

      Essentially Android 4.4 will require less power and memory to provide a better user experience for every device on the line. There is no need for 64 bit systems yet. Its cool, no doubt, but not even close to being needed.

      Apart from the 64bit system though, its just an iPhone 5 again. Design is dated – technology (minus the 64bit) is dated. Its the same as the 4 and 4S. When the next generation iPhone comes out, it will be a huge splash.

    • jroc

      Oh I agree, I never said it was needed. I just answered the question on how they beat android to the punch.

    • Stu Pid

      oops wrong person to reply

    • Josh Brown

      No one here is saying that the 5S is not just a 5 with lipstick on it. We all hate iPhones. We just said that they had a 64bit processor before an android OEM put it in their phones. They have announced that they will be releasing then early next year but up until now no OEM has released one.

    • Josh Brown

      I am a self proclaimed android fan boy, but what droid has a 64 bit processor?

    • Christopher Robert

      name one thing this phone beat android to the punch on.

    • phreezerburn

      Using the colours found in a baby’s diaper bag.

    • Josh Brown

      I hate apple dont get me wrong but do any androids support 64bit?

    • davedooter

      Android supports 128 bit.

    • Josh Brown

      Sorry I should have said Do any Android OEM manufatures make a phone or tablet with a 64bit chip?

    • Josh Brown

      I didn’t know this where did you find that?

    • Zomby2D

      They had a useless feature first? The only advantage of a 64-bit processor vs 32-bit is the ability to address more than 4 GB of ram. With less than that, you’re actually increasing the footprint os the OS and slowing things down. I’m kinda glad Android manufacturers didn’t do a stupid thing like going 64-bit on 1-2 GB devices.

    • Josh Brown

      Doesn’t it also have a data path twice as wide through the processor?
      How does it increase the footprint? Also some android manufatures have announced 64bit.

    • Zomby2D

      The footprint is increased because data has to be aligned to 64-bit memory spaces.
      And 64-bit memory accesses take twice as much bandwidth thus doubling the load on the memory paths.
      Unless they kept the software strictly 32-bit and just upgraded the processor. It might just be the case of having bragging rights while providing no real change whatsoever.

    • Josh Brown

      90% of stats are bragging. Can you really ly tell the difference between 340 ppi and 440 ppi?

    • davedooter

      Yes.

      I believe Apple used the “retina” display boasting a high ppi as a selling point. Now that other phones have surpassed the ppi of the iPhone is suddenly doesn’t matter now? Interesting.

    • Josh Brown

      I believe science says you cant tell the difference at that high of pixel density. Dont get me wrong I hate apple and ca giant android fanboy. I just pointed out that they had something before an android oem. I did not say it was useful or not.

    • BetelgeuseOrion

      Not really, 64bit support was already in Gingerbread 2.3 but no 64bit procs were available for mobile devices.

      apple did not beat android, but they did beat some hw manufactures

    • Josh Brown

      Sorry that is what I meant. Some? What hw oem has a 64 bit chip?

    • danbob999

      Because it was planned for next year along with 4GB RAM.
      With less than 4GB RAM, there is no reason to move to 64 bits, especially when you run on a small battery.

    • Zee

      This is what people don’t realize. They see 64-bit! OMG AMAZING IT’S DOUBLE THE BITS. It just means they can access more than 4GB of RAM, which the phone doesn’t even have, so it’s totally useless other than a marketing gimmick.

    • phreezerburn

      Wait until you see the iPhone SS. It’s pitch is being made from stardust.

    • erereet

      so how much is the cheap version outright?

    • Revolver Leconte-Chevalie

      99$ oups*
      maybe 300+ i guess

    • Zee

      $599 in Canada off contract for 16GB

    • IJustGotaTan

      Same Apple crap re-released to the masses.

    • Plazmic Flame

      No major increase in battery and as expected, no increase in screen size. Waiting game continues…

  • Allwayswrite

    OK iFanboy’s….lets hear how amazing plastic is now that its on the apple product line….lol…can’t wait!

    • bluecanada

      ‘Tisn’t, although the polycarbonate Lumia 920s always seemed interesting.

      Presumably the Apple fans will be getting metal 5Ses, if they can.

    • Zed

      Not just any plastic; this plastic is magical ;)

    • HelloCDN

      Lol just as I can’t wait for Android trolls, who’ve been convincing everyone that plastic on phones is fine, but once Galaxy Note 3 came out, leather is the new awesome. Go eat some Kit Kat ;)

    • Zed

      Leather is just the “coating” part of the phone. Phone is still of plastic.

    • IJustGotaTan

      The metal on my HTC One is just fine too.

    • Stu Pid

      At least plastic doesn’t shatter like glass when dropped… You pay $200 to get the glass replaced on an iPhone, friend of mine had to do just that.

    • Jonathan Robert

      Mine is made of Awesomeness!

  • danbob999

    The 1GB RAM has not been confirmed.
    It’s like when they launched the iPhone 4S. Everybody assumed 1GB RAM while it still had 512MB.
    The 5C probably still have 1GB RAM, but we don’t know.

    • Christopher Robert

      phone probably still only has 1GB RAM. lol. Lot of good a new processor does when it doesn’t have enough ram to run even a decent game.

  • gluboy

    wondering what’s the outright cost of iphone 5c? Hopefully they are going to price it well since more people are considering buying the phones outright to keep their existing or grandfathered plan from changing

    • Zed

      Seeing how it’s 99$ on a two year, it’s safe to assume it’s gonna be $600ish, $500 at best.

    • gluboy

      prices are out. $599 for 16gb and $719 for 32gb. No thanks apple. I am going to wait for next nexus phone.

    • RandomHero

      Way higher than I expected. Oh well, I’m sure people will flock to buy these anyway…

    • gluboy

      i do not see the point of iphone 5c. This was supposed to be a budget iphone, something of an alternate to a google nexus. All apple did, increased the iphone 5 price and called it iphone 5s.

  • Liberal Phone Person

    these colours are horrible!

    • phreezerburn

      They work quite well in the Baby Departments of every major department store in North America… their target market?

  • Wind

    Anyone know whether the bands supported will allow use on Wind and/or Mobilicity?

    • Liberal Phone Person

      a good guess… same as iphone 5

    • HelloCDN

      Why? To buy the phone for the same price, yet not be able to use one of its key features – LTE network? What’s the point?

    • Sweet

      It’s no different than what people do with their home computers. Today’s computers are capable of 1000Mb/s network speeds, yet people connect it to a 600Mb/s WiFi network which connects to a 15-25Mb/s Internet connection.

    • Canucks

      I am using Fido. My LTE network on my iPhone is running smoothly at average 35Mbps. 3G is history. Don’t feed cheap gasoline to a Ferrari.

    • Sweet

      My point still stands.

  • alphs22

    The 5S silver is the best looking of the bunch.

  • rd0t

    1gb of ram and $199 for 32gb device?! no thanks.

  • Liberal Phone Person

    Wind needs to pick this up. Not for me, but for the other ifans.

  • JB

    Still not HD…..LMFAO.

    • Stantheman

      like you need HD on a phone anyway right ??

    • phreezerburn

      I do, I have and I enjoy.

  • Dalex

    It’s nice being in a position where you don’t have to innovate in any way (oh sorry I forgot colour is an innovation :P) and people will still gobble up your crappy phones, because of marketing and branding. As a business student, its quite fun to study. How long before they become like blackberry though? 2, 3 years?

    • alphs22

      Still a student and you already know more about the market than the most valuable publicly-traded company in the world.

      You must have excelled in Smartass 101.

    • Dalex

      Did I imply that anywhere in my comment? Also, how is “the most valuable publicly-traded company in the world” relevant to me? Do I work for Apple? Do I own their stock? What are you their PR boy? Do you get paid? Pretty sad if you don’t.
      Doesn’t take a genius to see that tech is a volatile field where innovation is key. Not innovating is dangerous for any company regardless of their position in the market.
      But yeah colour, more LTE bands of a single chip (pretty sure that’s due to Qualcomm’s RF360 chip, not Apple) and 64 bit (which app uses those again?) are mindblowing *rolls eyes*.

    • alphs22

      LOL I see your feelings are quite fragile.

      The fact that you think 64-bit is irrelevant tells me you can’t even look at progress when it’s right in front of your face. Why would developers code for 64-bit when the hardware isn’t in place? Now that it is, smartphones can move towards to the 64-bit space – they just opened the door.

      Now, the 5C and the colours. They’ve basically clawed back a portion of the personalization market (which is huge, by the way) by offering colours off the production line. Motorola is employing the same strategy with Moto X.

      On top of the 5C and 64-bit news: huge OS redesign, improved camera, adaptive dual flash, and the addition of fingerprint scanner. Those were my takeaways. All those amounted to better improvements than Samsung did from the S3 -> S4, where they essentially introduced gimmicks for 2 hours.

    • Dalex

      The hardware still isn’t in place. 64 bit requires 4GB of RAM and I must have missed the part where the 4GB was announced for the Iphone 5s. Huge OS redesign? So an uglier row of icons? Are you sure you’re not a paid Apple Schill? I’m really beginning to think so. Where did I mention Samsung. Samsung is even worse, they just rehashed the S3 for the S4. At least if I would buy the S4 I have Android on it, which I can change to my liking.
      Your posts just smell of pathetic Apple fanboyism, please ton down the crappy gibberish.

    • alphs22

      Good thing you’re going on a personal rant rather than actually replying. I see you’ll do well in “business school”.

      “64 bit requires 4GB of RAM”
      Fail. Double fail for being a business student and not seeing their strategy for next year.

      “Huge OS redesign? So an uglier row of icons?”
      Good thing you’re not a fanboy yourself.

      “please ton down the crappy gibberish.”
      And there’s the topper. Good luck again in business school.

      I’m glad you’re raging on your keyboard.

    • Dalex

      I am? Actually I’m just suprised (though I shouldn’t be I guess) someone is being a Fanboy for free. Strategy for next year? So you’ll buy a Iphone 5s for its 64 bit capabilities that you can’t use until they sell you one next year? :P

    • J-Ro

      Duh, They have to support the record breaking sales. How else will they hold on to their bragging rights?

    • davedooter

      You sound like you’re keyboard crying.

      How is having 64 bit without the ram support on this years iPhone release not a fail when it means nothing to the users “until next year”?

      Apple: “We hope you buy into the 64 bit thing on this years iPhone, which you won’t notice until you buy next years iPhone 6 with more ram.”

      Yeah, that’s business 101 thinking right there.

    • alphs22

      “You sound like you’re keyboard crying.”

      How so? Having a great time shooting down every single one of his points.

      “How is having 64 bit without the ram support on this years iPhone release not a fail when it means nothing to the users “until next year”?”

      Sigh… the benefits of 64-bit isn’t restricted to being able to use over 4GB of RAM… But I’ll let you Google that and educate yourself.

      As I said, Apple just opened the door to 64-bit (currently used by servers and computers) on a mobile platform. The tablet space is getting crowded with ultrabooks and regular laptops getting touchscreens. Soon they’re going to need their iPads to be able to compete with said devices that are running on Intel’s more powerful x86.

      So as ARM moves into the 64 bit space, so does Apple. Why is the move to 64-bit significant? Because Apple just took a huge first step in unifying their devices into one architecture. Like I said, they need their iPad line to compete with ultrabooks. But they’ll likely try to avoid having to maintain both iOS on ARM and OSX on x86. They have an example in Microsoft and their disastrous two-version Surface (RT and Pro).

      If you’ve been following tech news for the last few years, you would know that Apple has been testing OSX on ARM for a while. So soon you’re going to see Apple move to a unified architecture for all their devices and vertically integrate their products.

      And now you see why their move to 64-bit was important.

    • Nadefrenzy

      Where does it say that 64 bit requires 4GB minimum? Please link me a source. Would be an interesting read.

      Yes, introduction of toggles/quickaccess to tools, different icons, improvements in battery, javascript performance, application performance, and several graphical improvements as well IS a huge OS redesign.

      Now is it better than Android, i don’t know, that depends on your usage and needs. However, that 4″ screen is a bust for me personally.

    • Andrew_notPorC

      64 bits are required to address memory larger than 3.2 GB. Anything less than that, 32 bit works just fine. Basic computer science.

    • Nadefrenzy

      So how exactly is Apple extracting 2x performance over the iPhone 5 then? Apple doesn’t lie about their performance improvements.

    • davedooter

      Agreed.

    • danbob999

      Developers won’t start to code for 64-bit. They won’t even notice. Only the compiler will change its output but the code will be the same.
      Also, they can’t drop 32 bit because of the new iPhone 5C released today.

    • Nadefrenzy

      My note 2 from 2012 does Slo-mo video recording.

    • Nadefrenzy

      k but that’s like getting an upgraded front facing camera.. not exactly “innovation”.

    • Tyrone Thomas

      64-bit only matters to developers and spec whores. The majority of users could care less. 120fps is just another way to eat up your battery and storage space. Hardly features the masses are clamoring for. When it comes to innovation, Apple is playing catch up. I have to credit their marekting team though because no matter what, they are going to sell a ton of these phones.

    • danbob999

      Developpers won’t care about 64 bit. Only spec whores. And even then, 3GB RAM or more cores would be more usefull than 64 bit.

    • howitzerr

      64 bit is completely useless if you don’t have more than 4gb of ram, the xperia z ultra is octoband lte, for the camera, have you ever heard about Nokia? forward thinking for dummies

  • Johnny

    “it is made with a single piece of “hard-coated” polycarbonate”…or plastic. I thought it wasn’t good enough for iPhone fans seeing how they kept on saying Samsung’s Galaxy line is made of cheap plastic. I guess polycarbonate is better…

    • HelloCDN

      Yeah it is, considering it’s cheaper than what Samsung charges you for the phone.

    • Andrew_notPorC

      Samsung has phones that cost less than $600.

    • Marc Palumbo

      Nokia makes nicer polycarbonate phones. This is just iPhone 5Crap

    • danbob999

      Samsung uses polycarbonate too. Polycarbonate is plastic.

    • barrist

      Is that what they call the piece of paper used as a battery cover on Samsung phones? Neat!

  • HelloCDN

    Just wait a second, an army of BB and Android fans are a bit distracted.

    • HelloCDN

      Well, looking that I have 4 downvotes right now, most likely you are a welcome exception.

  • Aydreean

    aws compatiable in canada?

  • JB

    Honestly its at the point now where if you buy a 16gb iphone 5s over the other flagships from basically all other brands….you’ve identified yourself as a total and utter FOOL.

    • Nadefrenzy

      How so? What other device is there that competes with this besides the Note 3?

    • badtaco

      Your mother was a fool for birthing you. Someone should have dealt with that before you happened.

  • Nyderny

    Serioulsy … nothing in there can convince me to buy a apple phone anymore … compare this to a galaxy note 3 and you wondering if apple can really catch up …gonna be interesting …

    • Nadefrenzy

      4″ vs 5.7″ uh what?

      Completely diff market each device targets.. how can you compare them?

    • Nyderny

      well this is exactly the point , samsung improve their phone all year they study all the share market … apple just bring almost the same thing year after year … 4 ” phone are now way overrated and if you look at the spec .. the galaxy note 3 is a real beast in comparison to this phone !

    • Nadefrenzy

      Can’t compare. Different OS and UI. Only thing you could “possibly” compare are the ppi levels. However, iPhones pretty much have the best LCDs in the market, and so some people prefer that over Amoled.

      Again, too difficult to compare since the screen size is also a personal preference thing, but yes, I do wait for a 4.7-4.8″ iPhone 6.

  • alphs22

    It was 56x over the original iPhone I believe.

  • grantdude

    Wait. They didn’t tell us if the headphone jack is on the top or bottom.

    • mwahahahaha

      There is no headphone jack, it transmits iFrequencies that resonate across your cranium to produce sound inside your ear canals

    • grantdude

      Revolutionary!

    • Canucks

      You should copyright this and if someone copy your idea then you can sue them like Apple.

  • danbob999

    Apple’s CPUs lags behind the competition in speed for years.
    So they had to do something. Even if it won’t make the phone any faster, 64 bits still allows them to brag that they are first at something,

  • danbob999

    That’s not 50x over the previous generation. That’s 2x. Which will still make the new A7 slower than the Snapdragon 600.

  • danbob999

    64 bit do not improve memory access times. In fact it is often slower since pointers are larger (twice as much data need to be transfered).
    They get better speed by adding more registers, improving the architecture, and raising the clock speed.
    But no apps on the iPhone with 2GB RAM need 64 bit.

    • danbob999

      You could have more registers on a 32 bit CPU too.

  • alphs22

    “make sense to until this phone has mass adoption”

    At the rate that Apple sells smartphones, that would be in a couple weeks.

  • BBC

    Somehow Iphone 5S reminds of HTC One… Man I love the phone…

  • HelloCDN

    So um…Touch ID, 64-bit, not used by any other flagship showed so far. Yeah, nothing different, nothing innovative. For people like you, it probably needs to be able to have full AI and make you coffee in the morning to be innovative.

    • danbob999

      Touch ID was on the Atrix.
      Even with 64-bit, the CPU will probably be slower than the competition, just as it as been since after the iPhone 3GS.

    • HelloCDN

      You know what, whatever.., I am so tired to explain that CPU speeds don’t mean anything if software sucks. I’ve used both iPhone and right now I have S4 that drains my battery 1.5x faster, always looks for GPS signal inside buildings which drains the battery even more, and just recently complained about damaged SD card which I know have to restore with hundreds of pictures… Think what you want, but hardware isn’t everything. None of the phones presented lately carry “innovation” – only nice features as improvements. Which is why I struggle to understand why Android/BB trolls always complain about iPhones. But whatever. I’m withdrawing from this thread, because it seems like there can be few discussions about what really matters in the phone, only about useless “super specs”.

    • J-Ro

      Sounds like your phone has Google Now active. My S3 did the same until I turned it off. It would kill the battery trying to find the fastest way home. Once you turn that off, you should be good on battery life.

    • HelloCDN

      Hmm…I’ll try that, thanks :)

    • J-Ro

      No problem. Believe me, it was a pain in the a*s for me too. I could literally see my battery die before my eyes. 1% every minute.

    • Nadefrenzy

      Jesus christ, you fanboys are annoying as f***.

      Quit being a androne or iSheep; just look at the damn phones from a tech enthusiast perspective..

    • Jesse

      ok how about this… from a tech perspective, they didn’t include NFC, they didn’t include widgets, they didn’t include a LIVE background for god’s sake… and it’s one of the smallest handsets on the market… i own a Nexus4 and i can one hand it PERFECTLY and it’s great for youtube and video… the security feature is really good, but again… as i have stated before, this is a letdown, and i remain high hoped for next years 4.7″ iPhone 6

    • HelloCDN

      I have S4, turned on my Live Background, put a couple of widgets on, NFC was also on. My battery started dying in less than a day. I contact Samsung support – guess what they tell me?

    • davedooter

      “Having awesome features enabled wiil come at the cost of battery usage. You are more than welcome to shut every feature off and allow the phone to do literally nothing and you now have yourself an iPhone which will last days on battery. Thanks for calling Samsung care.”

    • HelloCDN

      Well, let me see, judging by the fact that GPS is present on the iPhone, as well as the screen, which prove to be the biggest battery drainers on S4, I fail to see the point in your “joke”.

    • Nadefrenzy

      Same. However, there’s more to it than just tech specs or hardware.

      iPhone users have a better experience than Android users (yes even those android users who have given iOS a try) simply because iOS is a more complete and stable OS period.

      I own a Nexus 4 too (in fact im using one right now), and I can’t wait to get rid of it. The overheating aside, the unstable OS (random reboots), crappy camera, lack of proper messaging/texting logs, poor brightness, and lack of LTE are all turn offs for me. That’s part of the user experience. iPhones and other premium Android phones do far better on that.

    • J-Ro

      So you just started hating Android because Apple just got LTE last year. All phones over heat champ, it is just how it goes. You need yourself a nice little landline. You will never lag or over heat again.

    • Jesse

      LTE, overheating, camera, yes yes and yes. However the price is/was considerably lower then an i5 … I’m not gonna argue the merits of ios vs. Android. Both have weaknesses and strengths. For me however, i will be waiting for the nexus5 and see if apple can offer me the things it lacks that ive grown to love about nexus. Cause what they offer with the i5S doesn’t make up for what I’ll lose by switching. I have hope for i6 though

    • davedooter

      Complete and stable? Yeah, having an OS that does pretty much nothing isn’t complete and better be stable.

      It’s like comparing a guy juggling, standing on a ball and spinning plates on his head to a guy who is just standing there picking his nose drooling on himself. Which one is more stable?

      Apple being the latter, of course. Sometimes I’ll take a little unstable in order to have a thing called ‘options’ and ‘features’.

    • Nadefrenzy

      Yea srry, but reliability and stability are #1 priority for me. To each their own.

    • Nadefrenzy

      Some people care about reliability and stability instead of gimmicks :)

      That’s why not all of us go on WIND LOL.

    • Nadefrenzy

      Also from a tech perspective did you not realize the introduction of x64 bit CPUs? That’s HUGE. The integration of a fingerprint scanner into the ecosystem (proper integration—Atrix sucked).

      However, that 4″ screen is horrid for browsing.

    • Jesse

      oh i’ll totally agree, the fingerprint scanner is awesome and holds alot of promise for the future, (it won’t stop anyone from taking out the SiM and then wiping the phone, but it does have it’s benefits) and it’s a great innovation, but i find it odd still that NFC is nowhere to be found… tey innovate on one hand, then completely ignore the innovation of others and act as though it never happened…
      however, i love the iOS speed and reliability, so i am solid in that if they go 4.7″ screen size and at the very least support NFC on the iPhone6 next year? i will buy it… as a consumer, those two things are vastly important to me.

    • Nadefrenzy

      Yup. That lack of NFC thing was a bit surprising, but I didnt really expect that it that much tbh since they were practically 0 rumors for it.

      I also HATE their marketing (the part where they added a smug comment about the recycling checklist that others manufacturers supposedly don’t care to show. Don’t like how the smallest change is commemorated by a HUGE announcement, but I guess that’s marketing in general).

      But yes, I do want a more stable and quicker OS than Android, and I’d definitely consider jumping ship next year if they come out with a 4.7″+ iPhone 6.

    • HelloCDN

      Lol, well, as an immigrant, I had to give my fingerprint scans to the government anyway. And I had to give them to get US visitor visa…So, it doesn’t really matter to me now ;)

  • Collin dubya

    Now the NSA will have access to canadian fingerprint too!! No thanks i’ll stick with my innovative samsung device thx.

    • Nadefrenzy

      It doesn’t go to Apple servers or iCloud or w/e.

    • BB BB

      It is stored on the phone which means the NSA can access it from a backup on your computer in your iTunes etc. You really think its safe just because it isn’t uploaded to iCloud?

    • HelloCDN

      Doesn’t really matter. I already had to give my fingerprints for Canadian/US government to have my visa. A lot of people are in the similar situation. Do you really think that they will not have access to this if they can’t get it from phones? Are you that naive, or just a troll?

    • Nadefrenzy

      That’s US only tho right?

    • erereet

      lol that’s what they are obviously going to say. remember back when the apple maps app kept your gps history for weeks? ya.

    • Collin dubya

      just like our phones and text messages were private right?

  • Collin dubya

    The 5C looks like something out of a GAP commercial, Bleeech.

  • SaberX

    Don’t really see anything that impressive. Guess I’m still used the old times when Apple used to announce major innovation. I was much more impressed with the Note 3 announcement.

  • Aydreean

    aws compatiable iphone 5s?

  • Julis

    LOL so UPDATE….the 5C is $549 for 16GB….WTH Apple?

    • Julis

      Thats USD

    • Alex

      Basically in the same arena as the Lumia 920…except the Lumia 920 has a better screen, better camera, more storage and is cheaper.

    • Zomby2D

      That’s US prices, here it’s priced at $599 for 16 GTB and $719 for 32 GB

  • Ryan

    Man, same resolution and screen size…nothing has changed yet again. It’s almost unbelievable.

  • cubanito91

    iphone 5s = to iphone 5(SAME) thank god, I’m not an apple fan anymore!!!! :DDDDD

  • Guest

    You know guys…I am really tempted to get the Sony Z1…or wait for the Jolla Phone. I’ve never had an iPhone…and out of all of them, I must say the internal specs of this one is insane…5S is pretty tempting…although I wish it had a larger screen…I’m too use to the 4.7 on my nexus 4.

  • RobbersWireless

    No wonder it has such amazing gaming performance! Same 640p screen as last year (which was already outdated at the time compared to the 720p screen on the HTC One X). Yawn. Apple sure talked alot about specs…must be because what they had to offer was largely underwhelming. HTC One…still number “One”.

  • Max Fireman

    According to Apple, it’s the “most forward-thinking phone we’ve ever created.” According to me, it’s the same damn phone.

    • Zomby2D

      That’s what they mean, they created todays pone in 2007… you can’t get more froward-thinking than that.

  • Jesse

    it’s still all about a super quick interface… if you could take the accessibility and quick responsive nature of iOS and combine it with the choice and options and customization skills of android, and throw in some BB10 security… you’d have yourself the best OS around… but each on their own have strengths and weaknesses… all in all… i think Android is only any good if it’s in Google’s hands (Nexus and MotoX) in the hands of samsung or sony it’s worthless.

    • J-Ro

      If you take all those things and combined them. You would have BB10.

    • Jesse

      Dude my wife bought a Z10 and I assure you… You most certainly would not

    • J-Ro

      I got the Q10. Mine must be different then.

    • Jesse

      i don’t know but, it consistently freezes, has little to no app support, and the apps it does have (Like soundhound and songza imparticular) are android ports that are buggy and don’t work properly… she hates it… and i understand why, the keyboard tech is cool, and the security is second to none… but it’s a slight step above windows phones IMHO… light years behind Android and iOS

    • J-Ro

      I will agree with you on apps. Developers are getting lazy. Very similar to the gaming industry. Instead of building an app for the OS, they port it over. I know BB10 isn’t really heavy on the market but at least a little effort on their part would be nice.

    • Nadefrenzy

      lolwut? My Nexus 4 is an unstable POS on 4.3. My note 2 was stable as a rock tho.

    • Jesse

      I don’t know what the difference between your nexus and my nexus may be or what our use of it might mean but I have had zero problems with my N4 since updating to 4.3 it’s been running smooth and clean… Not trying to be a dick I just honestly haven’t had a smoother running phone since my iphone5. Never had a note but had an S3 couldn’t stand it. Kijiji’d it after a month and have friends with S4 and they like the N4 better as well… So to each his own I guess…

  • RobbersWireless

    So, the iPhone 5 doesn’t have more than 4GB of RAM, yet it needs a 64bit CPU?

    • Alex

      It’s a typical apple gimmick

    • RobbersWireless

      Go Leafs Go!

  • jonnny

    wow, i wasnt expecting much, but this is even worse than i was expecting. and the 5c is wayyyyyy over priced!!

  • Christopher Robert

    Let run through the list of “New” Features

    1.) Plastic Back – almost ever Android phone ever
    2.) Multiple Colors – Again been done by Android for years
    3.) A7 chip, a 64-bit SoC – Worthless with only 1GB of RAM, also the Note3 chip is better
    4.) 4 inch screen – so done already
    5.) OpenGL 3.0 – Android 4.3 did it first
    6.) 120fps slow motion – My Note 2 did this a year ago.

    7.) 10 hours of battery life…lol can’t believe they touted this as a feature.
    8.) New Camera lens – basically a copy off the HTC ONE
    9.) New Gold color – perfect for showing everyone you paid too much for your phone
    10.) Fingerprint scanner – a 3.5 year old smart phone called the Atrix $G did this and it never caught on. Because, for real, how often do you let someone else pick up your phone, its a gimmick at best.

    • Nadefrenzy

      They always show battery results at every WWDC.

      lol HTC One’s camera blows compared to this. Unlike the HTC One, they didn’t just lower the mp and increase the pixel size, they increased the aperture and sensor area, which means good low light performance AND daylight (something the One struggles with).

      Atrix’s implementation of the fingerprint scanner was a joke so that’s a moot point too. Color is preference so again.. moot.. if that was a point even.

      Rest of your points are valid tho.

  • J-Ro

    They look more like iPods than phones.

  • Zomby2D

    A 64-bit CPU with less than 4 GB of RAM is not innovation, it’s plain stupid. Moving to 64-bit merely allows you to address more than 4GB of RAM but requires a larger memory footprint and actually slows you down if you don’t have sufficient memory.

  • Zomby2D

    Actually, that’s mostly dumb. Moveing from 32-bit to 64-bit simply allows you to access more tha 4GB of RAM. However it also increase the memory footprint of the OS. With less than tha amount of RAM, it actually makes things slower, not faster.

  • Nadefrenzy

    Read your comments; they reek of anti-apple bias.

    Also, you do realize tech isn’t just specs and numbers right? It’s also the user experience, and the integration of said tech.

    Atrix’s fingerprint scanning was a joke compared to this. I was hoping the Note 3 would do the same, and it would’ve worked out well too since Sammy is known for having a stable UI compared to other OEMs (*cough* nexus 4 *cough*). However, Apple did it first and so yes that’s something too.

    Please do tell what exactly the note 3 brings that could be called “innovation”?

  • Stu Pid

    64bit is really not needed as of yet, heck I don’t even think most of the apps on the store will be 64bit capable even in iOS7. Once phones reaches 4GB and higher memory, 64bit will be better off because of large address aware, however 32bit apps are capable of taking advantage of LAA anyways.

  • Stu Pid

    The drawback of 64bit vs 32bit is memory usage is much more bloated in 64bit to do the same task 32bit would do.

  • SaberX

    Now having thought about it for a while, I have to say that the fingerprint scanner seems a little extreme. Not only does Apple have all your personal info including payment info, but now has a fingerprint to match it? Sounds like the NSA might have their sticky little fingers in the Apple sauce. I don’t believe for a minute that Apple doesn’t retain copies of the fingerprints on their servers. Just another way for the government to keep control I guess…

  • Zomby2D

    They’re claiming 2x over previous generation, 40x over the very first iPhone.

  • NLumiaFan

    green, yellow, blue, white and red? XD more like meadow, cream, sky, snow, and cupcake. perfect for a baby

    • phreezerburn

      We need to cut Apple some slack. The 5c had to fit in with the aesthetics of their new exclusive retailer Toys Are Us.

  • Canucks

    The phone doesn’t even have enough ram to use 64 bit. All apps need to be update to take any advantage of it. More LTE band is a big deal? I am already running 35Mbps on my LTE network which is faster than my home internet. What’s so good about the camera enhancements? If that camera can beat the Nokia 1020 then I will buy the phone.

    Well it doesn’t really matter anyways. Whenever Apple says a product is magical, there will be a bunch of “flies” trying to get a piece of the you know what.

  • Jonavin

    64 bit is perfect. Now all those apps can bloat to twice the size. Good way to encourage people to buy larger storage models.

  • canucks4life

    I guess Apple has made it quite clear they’re marketing to teeny boppers now?

  • Jason K

    I am an Android fanboy, and have been since 2010 when I purchased my first Android device; a Galaxy S.

    Having said that, I also have a tremendous amount of respect for Apple and what they did to the entire hand held device industry.

    To me, the 5c is a blemish on their reputation. Covering a phone in plastic (I don’t care what colors) is the complete wrong way to go for them. Apple has established themselves as a premium brand (yes, I know the HTC One is a beautiful piece of tech, but they also made quite a lot of junk as well).

    The 5c isnt cheap enough for most people to really consider it over a 5s in my mind. If my contract is up and I’m looking for a new phone, if it means I have to eat Kraft Dinner for a month or two to save the extra dough, I do it. Would I spend my money on an ugly, florescent plastic phone when for not all that much more I could have some glass/aluminum elegance.

    Apple is trying to force its way into a market that they will not put a dent in, to late to that game. Stick to what you do best, make *1* Premium phone, and discount the last years model, don’t put a something on the market that screams “increased margins yo!”.

  • deepbluesea79

    Been an iOS user since iphone 3gs, then upgraded to the 4 (Liked the design and screen). Been using it ever since. That is till about a week ago. Home button was giving out. Battery had to be charged 2-3 times a day. Apps crashing. Phone lived in a speck candshell. Looks brand new still! Was a excellent phone at the time. Enjoyed using it. Recently bought a Nexus 4. Got to say I am enjoying android and the 4.7inch 720p display. Youtube looks awesome! Really impressed with google and LG for a $250 off contract phone. What the iphone 5c should of been. Apple needs to get with the times, increase the screen size! Once I heard the price and screen size of the new iphone I switched. Finger print scanner….that isn’t open to dev/3rd party apps…. not worth the $$$ for the same old screen and design. IMO.

  • MXH070

    5s + 5c = Crapola……

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