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RIM fights back: “Apple’s self-made debacle is unacceptable”
Apple held their iPhone 4 antenna press conference and stated that other manufacturers such as Nokia, Motorola, HTC and RIM devices have the same “Antennagate” problem where the signal slowly disappears. Apple went as far as showing examples of each.
Well our homegrown Waterloo-based Research in Motion is fighting back! Thanks to Kevin over at CrackBerry for the official statement by co-CEO’s Mike Lazaridis and Jim Balsillie. Read it below… it’s bold and to the point:
“Apple’s attempt to draw RIM into Apple’s self-made debacle is unacceptable. Apple’s claims about RIM products appear to be deliberate attempts to distort the public’s understanding of an antenna design issue and to deflect attention from Apple’s difficult situation. RIM is a global leader in antenna design and has been successfully designing industry-leading wireless data products with efficient and effective radio performance for over 20 years. During that time, RIM has avoided designs like the one Apple used in the iPhone 4 and instead has used innovative designs which reduce the risk for dropped calls, especially in areas of lower coverage. One thing is for certain, RIM’s customers don’t need to use a case for their BlackBerry smartphone to maintain proper connectivity. Apple clearly made certain design decisions and it should take responsibility for these decisions rather than trying to draw RIM and others into a situation that relates specifically to Apple.”
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apple..your a fail
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Good for them!apple has no right to go around saying every one else has these problems when they dont!my X10 works just fine no matter how i hold it. Apple is too ignorant to admit that its a design flaw issue with the new iphone.
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powwwwww right in the kisser!
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EPIC FAIL.
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Boom, roasted. Thank you RIM. This helps reaffirm my faith in you. I love my 8900 and to be honest, I hope you get the 9300 to production and up here, because I’d love a 3g curve.
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Good for you RIM for sticking up!
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Powwwwww right in the kisser!
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Guy picked up the RIM phone, bars disappeared. RIM phones have the same problem.
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My 3Gs works fine,Doesn’t matter witch way I hold it.I wouldn’t be surprised if Apple brings out a newer model sooner rather than later.
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It’s awesome that RIM doesn’t have issues!
Unlike iphone, android, nokia and palm phones which all will lose signal when the antenna is covered.
If your interested, this article gets pretty detailed on signal quality:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review/2
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RIM is mad as hell. And I’m glad they are
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I’m with you apowerranger! Love my 8900 too, and would also love to have a 3G curve (though I’m not sure I like the 9300′s lower end look, sorry RIM! how about a 3G successor to the 8900 than the 8520 instead RIM!)
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While I’m not a blackberry fan I have been forced to use one for my job for the last 7 years. RIM is correct here, the BB does not drop calls like the iPhone4 I returned!
Jobs will never accept that Apple made a mistake in design. And he expects customers to believe the same. I guess he thinks they’re all fools!!
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I agree they came out of the gate swinging, but RIM also completely fails to acknowledge in their response the fact that their phone also looses signal when held.
Deflect all you want, but the reality still exists that the Blackberry still exhibits the same problem!
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Why do people even like apple. The iphones all have call quality issues, the macs are so uncustomizeable,the ipad is just a huge ipod,they have horrible ethics, etc. The only thing worth getting from apple is the i pod touch.
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I can only speak for myself and my own experience, but I had no less than 7 or 8 blackberries over the past decade before moving to Android, and all of them without exception and regardless of carrier were rock solid in their reception. I never noticed this issue. Also, my HTC hero doesn’t lose any bars regardless of how I hold it, in or out of the case. I love Apple, don’t get me wrong, I own multiple Apple products, the iPhone notwithstanding. But seriously, I think in the case, they totally screwed up, and don’t want to admit it. Steve really is being unfair drawing others in to cover for what amounts to a design flaw. Good for RIM, not taking it lying down. I believe they are absolutely in the right.
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Steve Jobs needs to own up, stop involving other companies and move forward making great products. Let’s not forget the innovation they make with the iPhone 3G and 3GS. RIM would be still making outdated phones with outdated OS running on Edge. How long did it take them to make a 3G phone? Its become a pissing contest and frankly there are other things to worry about than iPhones. Again Steve Jobs should own up and RIM should just shut up and make phones!
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WOW Apple, consider that a warning from Research in Motion, Damn they were blunt and straight to the point as well, serves apple right for “claiming” other devices drop calls when they are held a specific way, Ive personally handled 8 different handsets, with a few different carriers, and none of them EVER had a dropped call, and also with the antennagate issue, nope, my current device does not suffer from it, only the iPhone 4 does.
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RIM delivers the RUMBLERRRRRRRR….!
Apple (Jobs) stop pointing fingers, and fix the phone.
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Regardless if Apple was right or not, it’s a childish thing to do.
How many times do kids say “Well X person did this! Why am I getting in trouble!?”
It’s a childish way to deflect responsibility and clearly shows that Apple can’t handle itself in a mature fashion when something goes wrong.
Just man up Apple and be honest for once.
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Once iPhone and MAC users realize they are no longer cool (Apple is the largest tech company in the world now), they’ll have an identity crisis. That’s on top of not being able to use their phone as a phone.
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It’s sad, people used (well they still do) to smoke to TRY and look cool, now they are holding an Apple product to TRY and look cool…if you’re a loser, you ARE a loser, live with it.
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A lot of people seem not to have read the RIM media release or don’t know how to read such things. RIM did not deny it has similar problems with its devices; that is the first thing I got from the release. Sure, they object to being drawn into the fray, sure they have excellent engineers and scientists – all that I could have written before the Apple news conference. RIM devices also may have excellent reception in most places, just as do iPhone 4′s. Apple’s complaint rate in 0.5%; what is RIM’s? What percentage of RIM owners use a case? That would be useful INFORMATION as opposed to the corporate media-speak RIM issued.
Solution to all of it? Go back to those pull-out antennae we used to know so well.
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Apple is a f*cking cry-baby. Seriously.
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Love my Palm Pre, no reception issues here.
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So basically, RIM is saying “Our phones are awesome, we do great antenna design, not like that crappy Apple antenna design” yet, they don’t deny that their phone loses signal IN THE EXACT SAME WAY as the iPhone? I’m very confused.
Having owned a 3G for 2 years now, I can honestly say that I could probably count on one hand the number of times that my phone has dropped a call (when I wasn’t in an elevator, or some other place where I wouldn’t expect to actually even have signal). So the fact that statistically, the iPhone 4 is dropping less than 1% more calls than the 3GS? I’m not concerned at ALL about the antenna issue.
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