Comments on: Rogers to offer “limited time opportunity” for Dream owners http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/01/09/rogers-to-offer-htc-dream-owners-a-limited-time-opportunity-to-upgrade-to-magic/ Canadian Mobile Phone News & Reviews - Cell phones and Accessories Sat, 26 May 2012 00:40:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: jon reddy http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/01/09/rogers-to-offer-htc-dream-owners-a-limited-time-opportunity-to-upgrade-to-magic/#comment-34837 jon reddy Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:15:39 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=16944#comment-34837 Hey guys, rogers cut this deal short it is no longer available. Luckily my girlfriend and i did this ASAP and got free magics. I had 2 yr 10 months on my contract and now have 3 years. So I signed up for an additional two months for a free 600.00 phone and got to keep my dream. Anyone badmouthing rogers for trying to give you a free additional phone is nuts...ITS A FREE PHONE!!!! not to mention wifi works without a sim card on htc dream so I now have a mini computer to take with me travelling!! Anyone who didnt do this and knew about it is crazy and have missed out big time! to those of you who did get the free upgrade I'm sure your just as stoked as I am! Hey guys, rogers cut this deal short it is no longer available. Luckily my girlfriend and i did this ASAP and got free magics. I had 2 yr 10 months on my contract and now have 3 years. So I signed up for an additional two months for a free 600.00 phone and got to keep my dream. Anyone badmouthing rogers for trying to give you a free additional phone is nuts…ITS A FREE PHONE!!!!

not to mention wifi works without a sim card on htc dream so I now have a mini computer to take with me travelling!! Anyone who didnt do this and knew about it is crazy and have missed out big time! to those of you who did get the free upgrade I’m sure your just as stoked as I am!

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]]> By: Dylan http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/01/09/rogers-to-offer-htc-dream-owners-a-limited-time-opportunity-to-upgrade-to-magic/#comment-34637 Dylan Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:02:34 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=16944#comment-34637 http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_Rogers_Dream_EBI1_to_CyanogenMod Its pretty str8 forward if you want to try, instructions are step-by-step. It is important to follow them EXACTLY. It seems like a lot of steps, but you only have to do it once. There are updates once every week or so, but there is an app in the appstore that allows you to do this with a couple of clicks. You'll never be behind the times again ;-). On-screen kbd and MULTI TOUCH zoom in the browser and gallery are enabled. BEFORE YOU DO THIS, it seems that everyone is freaking out about not getting past 1.5. However, from the HTC site they are promising something in early February... Will it be 2.1? From: http://www.htc.com/ca/support/dream-rogers/help/system-and-upgrade Can I upgrade my Rogers Dream device to Android 1.6? close HTC is not currently planning any Android 1.6 upgrades for Rogers Dream. Android 1.6 was only made available for “Google”-branded devices such as the G1. It is not available for HTC-branded products such as the Dream or Magic, which use Android 1.5. We believe that Android 1.5 is a stable and reliable software platform that delivers a terrific user experience. However, HTC will be implementing an update for the 1.5 OS to HTC Dream by early February 2010. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_Rogers_Dream_EBI1_to_CyanogenMod

Its pretty str8 forward if you want to try, instructions are step-by-step. It is important to follow them EXACTLY. It seems like a lot of steps, but you only have to do it once. There are updates once every week or so, but there is an app in the appstore that allows you to do this with a couple of clicks. You’ll never be behind the times again ;-) . On-screen kbd and MULTI TOUCH zoom in the browser and gallery are enabled.

BEFORE YOU DO THIS, it seems that everyone is freaking out about not getting past 1.5. However, from the HTC site they are promising something in early February… Will it be 2.1?

From: http://www.htc.com/ca/support/dream-rogers/help/system-and-upgrade
Can I upgrade my Rogers Dream device to Android 1.6? close
HTC is not currently planning any Android 1.6 upgrades for Rogers Dream. Android 1.6 was only made available for “Google”-branded devices such as the G1. It is not available for HTC-branded products such as the Dream or Magic, which use Android 1.5. We believe that Android 1.5 is a stable and reliable software platform that delivers a terrific user experience. However, HTC will be implementing an update for the 1.5 OS to HTC Dream by early February 2010.

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]]> By: Dylan http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/01/09/rogers-to-offer-htc-dream-owners-a-limited-time-opportunity-to-upgrade-to-magic/#comment-34567 Dylan Fri, 22 Jan 2010 06:22:27 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=16944#comment-34567 Mj pegged it. 1.6 runnin fine on TMobil G1 (same phone). Want me keyboard damnit... Instead of a "Free upgrade" to Magic, send me a 16GB Class 6 MicroSD then send "apps2sd" ota bundled w/ 2.1. Dev image from HTC site also runs fine. Oh well, keeping my dream, sticking with cyanogenmod... Mj pegged it. 1.6 runnin fine on TMobil G1 (same phone). Want me keyboard damnit… Instead of a “Free upgrade” to Magic, send me a 16GB Class 6 MicroSD then send “apps2sd” ota bundled w/ 2.1.
Dev image from HTC site also runs fine. Oh well, keeping my dream, sticking with cyanogenmod…

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]]> By: Athir http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/01/09/rogers-to-offer-htc-dream-owners-a-limited-time-opportunity-to-upgrade-to-magic/#comment-34267 Athir Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:41:53 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=16944#comment-34267 Has anyone called up Rogers and confirmed this is actually happening? I don't see it listed anywhere on their website. Has anyone called up Rogers and confirmed this is actually happening? I don’t see it listed anywhere on their website.

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]]> By: Hub http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/01/09/rogers-to-offer-htc-dream-owners-a-limited-time-opportunity-to-upgrade-to-magic/#comment-33958 Hub Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:14:34 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=16944#comment-33958 3 year contract renewal required. That's not "no cost". And yes they call upgrade anything involving changing handset even when said handset dies. Rogers redefine the English AND French lexicons to suit their need. Upgrade = replace handset Free = sign for 3 more years etc. 3 year contract renewal required. That’s not “no cost”.

And yes they call upgrade anything involving changing handset even when said handset dies. Rogers redefine the English AND French lexicons to suit their need.

Upgrade = replace handset
Free = sign for 3 more years

etc.

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]]> By: Scott S http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/01/09/rogers-to-offer-htc-dream-owners-a-limited-time-opportunity-to-upgrade-to-magic/#comment-33925 Scott S Tue, 12 Jan 2010 05:31:40 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=16944#comment-33925 Wait for the Nexus One if you want to move to WIND as they're the only company that'll support 3G. But spec wise it will smoke a Dream or Magic. Wait for the Nexus One if you want to move to WIND as they’re the only company that’ll support 3G. But spec wise it will smoke a Dream or Magic.

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]]> By: Kevin http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/01/09/rogers-to-offer-htc-dream-owners-a-limited-time-opportunity-to-upgrade-to-magic/#comment-33810 Kevin Mon, 11 Jan 2010 02:09:22 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=16944#comment-33810 If I need a new phone, should I just get the HTC Magic or wait for a new Android phone (ie Google Nexus One) to come to Canada? If I need a new phone, should I just get the HTC Magic or wait for a new Android phone (ie Google Nexus One) to come to Canada?

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]]> By: mjschmidt http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/01/09/rogers-to-offer-htc-dream-owners-a-limited-time-opportunity-to-upgrade-to-magic/#comment-33770 mjschmidt Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:26:53 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=16944#comment-33770 In response to Stupid Comment Flamer (who, by his name, is most likely a troll anyway) and others, it is important to note that in Canada (unlike the US and elsewhere) the Dream & the Magic came out at the same time. Since the OS looks and behaves almost identically, the only _apparent_ difference was the physical keyboard of the Dream. At the time that we bought these phones (in fact all the way up to at least Christmas eve and possibly beyond) customers who asked were told that they _would_ be able to get updates to both the Magic and the Dream (even though at the time Rogers/HTC hadn't announced the plans to update the Magic). So, if we had known then what we know now, that there were no plans to update the Dream, but plans to update the Magic,I doubt most, if any, of the Dream owners would have bought the Dream. There was an expectation that the phones were the same (save for the keyboard) and would be treated the same. As for the question of whose responsibility the updates are: We have been informed by HTC that the responsibility lies with the carrier (Rogers) to _request_ the update from HTC. The problem was that HTC customized Android 1.5 for Rogers, and this customization would have to be done for each subsequent update. So far we have not been able to confirm (HTC & Rogers won't say), but believe that it is likely Rogers would have to pay for this customization each time. Thus we _believe_ Rogers likely decided they only wanted to pay _once_ to get the 2.1 update. Since 2.1 probably won't work on the Dream (at least well) they can only get it for the Magic. We believe it likely they didn't want to have to pay for the 2.1 update _and_ the 1.6 update for the Dream, though they won't confirm this. It makes the most sense, though, since we KNOW 1.6 works on the Dream. The "customization" seems to be the issue. Getting an exchange from the Dream to the Magic is only "technically" an upgrade, because the Magic has better specs and will be updated (which we didn't know at the time of purchase). The phones debuted at the same time, so they've been out for the same length of time. They were marketed to people as being the same (save for the keyboard) so there was an expectation that one was not better than the other. They also cost the same. Given those factors, we would NOT accept any exchange offer that requires an owner to pay more money and/or extend a contract. In response to Stupid Comment Flamer (who, by his name, is most likely a troll anyway) and others, it is important to note that in Canada (unlike the US and elsewhere) the Dream & the Magic came out at the same time. Since the OS looks and behaves almost identically, the only _apparent_ difference was the physical keyboard of the Dream.

At the time that we bought these phones (in fact all the way up to at least Christmas eve and possibly beyond) customers who asked were told that they _would_ be able to get updates to both the Magic and the Dream (even though at the time Rogers/HTC hadn’t announced the plans to update the Magic).

So, if we had known then what we know now, that there were no plans to update the Dream, but plans to update the Magic,I doubt most, if any, of the Dream owners would have bought the Dream. There was an expectation that the phones were the same (save for the keyboard) and would be treated the same.

As for the question of whose responsibility the updates are: We have been informed by HTC that the responsibility lies with the carrier (Rogers) to _request_ the update from HTC. The problem was that HTC customized Android 1.5 for Rogers, and this customization would have to be done for each subsequent update.

So far we have not been able to confirm (HTC & Rogers won’t say), but believe that it is likely Rogers would have to pay for this customization each time. Thus we _believe_ Rogers likely decided they only wanted to pay _once_ to get the 2.1 update. Since 2.1 probably won’t work on the Dream (at least well) they can only get it for the Magic. We believe it likely they didn’t want to have to pay for the 2.1 update _and_ the 1.6 update for the Dream, though they won’t confirm this. It makes the most sense, though, since we KNOW 1.6 works on the Dream. The “customization” seems to be the issue.

Getting an exchange from the Dream to the Magic is only “technically” an upgrade, because the Magic has better specs and will be updated (which we didn’t know at the time of purchase). The phones debuted at the same time, so they’ve been out for the same length of time. They were marketed to people as being the same (save for the keyboard) so there was an expectation that one was not better than the other. They also cost the same. Given those factors, we would NOT accept any exchange offer that requires an owner to pay more money and/or extend a contract.

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]]> By: Michael S http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/01/09/rogers-to-offer-htc-dream-owners-a-limited-time-opportunity-to-upgrade-to-magic/#comment-33769 Michael S Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:19:00 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=16944#comment-33769 I'm so happy about this. I got so mad when I found out dream wasnt being updated past 1.5!!!! I’m so happy about this. I got so mad when I found out dream wasnt being updated past 1.5!!!!

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]]> By: Stupid comment flammer http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/01/09/rogers-to-offer-htc-dream-owners-a-limited-time-opportunity-to-upgrade-to-magic/#comment-33766 Stupid comment flammer Sun, 10 Jan 2010 14:50:56 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=16944#comment-33766 I can assure you that the only thing, if anything, that Rogers is going to do for the Dream owners is maybe make the hardware upgrade exception for them to upgrade to the Magic only!! and not have to wait the 24 months upgrade eligibility. You will!!!! have to sign a new 3yr term and pay for the phone. It's not!!! Rogers fault the manufacture is not developing the OS any higher then 1.5, so why would Rogers take the hit and give away new phones to people because THEY choose the Dream and not the Magic, Rogers didn't choose for the customer to get the magic so it's not their fault. But hey keep your hopes up and get ready to have your bubble burst. I can assure you that the only thing, if anything, that Rogers is going to do for the Dream owners is maybe make the hardware upgrade exception for them to upgrade to the Magic only!! and not have to wait the 24 months upgrade eligibility. You will!!!! have to sign a new 3yr term and pay for the phone. It’s not!!! Rogers fault the manufacture is not developing the OS any higher then 1.5, so why would Rogers take the hit and give away new phones to people because THEY choose the Dream and not the Magic, Rogers didn’t choose for the customer to get the magic so it’s not their fault. But hey keep your hopes up and get ready to have your bubble burst.

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