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	<title>Comments on: WIND to sell SIM cards hopefully &#8220;by the end of next week&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/12/18/wind-to-sell-sim-cards-hopefully-by-the-end-of-next-week/#comment-32502</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 03:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember that they&#039;re backed by Orascom a mobile Giant who said they were willing to back Wind... I&#039;m sure with that kind of Capital Investment it shouldn&#039;t take them that long with that kind of money to build a huge coverage area. Again they started on wednesday, you can&#039;t just open up shop and dominate the business...Haters all a bunch of haters</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember that they&#8217;re backed by Orascom a mobile Giant who said they were willing to back Wind&#8230; I&#8217;m sure with that kind of Capital Investment it shouldn&#8217;t take them that long with that kind of money to build a huge coverage area. Again they started on wednesday, you can&#8217;t just open up shop and dominate the business&#8230;Haters all a bunch of haters</p>
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		<title>By: CRIMINALOGIC ®</title>
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		<dc:creator>CRIMINALOGIC ®</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well there plans are desent, not really happy with limited unlimited data, slow speeds to begin with then slowing you down mo if you use more then 5GB.. hope it gets better.. 
and in No way do i think its reasonable charging $35 a month on dumbphone phone like the samsung gravity or huawei u7519 ((or t-mobile tap if you want to see reviews)) Am i wrong or missing a plan? 
honestly i have no beef paying full cost and there phone prices are nothing to complain about.. 
your doing good wind keep it up i would happily jn wen you have a network lol
buyi a t-mobile 3G phone unlocked is no issue for me.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well there plans are desent, not really happy with limited unlimited data, slow speeds to begin with then slowing you down mo if you use more then 5GB.. hope it gets better..<br />
and in No way do i think its reasonable charging $35 a month on dumbphone phone like the samsung gravity or huawei u7519 ((or t-mobile tap if you want to see reviews)) Am i wrong or missing a plan?<br />
honestly i have no beef paying full cost and there phone prices are nothing to complain about..<br />
your doing good wind keep it up i would happily jn wen you have a network lol<br />
buyi a t-mobile 3G phone unlocked is no issue for me&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Arshad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arshad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give them time, they just launched only a few days ago. They already cover more area than Microcell did when they first launched. At least WIND has a future forecast to cover all of Canada in the next 2 years, way more than what we can say about Microcell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give them time, they just launched only a few days ago. They already cover more area than Microcell did when they first launched. At least WIND has a future forecast to cover all of Canada in the next 2 years, way more than what we can say about Microcell.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we have to give them a chance. Like everyone has said, they are new. I don&#039;t think we can expect that they will have massive coverage just like rogers. (right away)

Yes, they roam on Rogers sometimes. It is like CityFido, but remember they cover from NewMarket all the way down to Hamilton.

They are building 10 towers or so a day, so I would expect by the end of 2010 their network will be much larger.

I have a Nokia N900 works fine on Wind. I look forward to them offering SIM only purchases.

In some other countries paying full price for a handset is the norm. Canadians are still getting use to the idea of  having no contracts, but I think that will change.

Remember Wind is selling handsets at BELOW cost.
AND you can own a Blackberry and use voice only. They don&#039;t force you to have a data plan--it&#039;s your choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we have to give them a chance. Like everyone has said, they are new. I don&#8217;t think we can expect that they will have massive coverage just like rogers. (right away)</p>
<p>Yes, they roam on Rogers sometimes. It is like CityFido, but remember they cover from NewMarket all the way down to Hamilton.</p>
<p>They are building 10 towers or so a day, so I would expect by the end of 2010 their network will be much larger.</p>
<p>I have a Nokia N900 works fine on Wind. I look forward to them offering SIM only purchases.</p>
<p>In some other countries paying full price for a handset is the norm. Canadians are still getting use to the idea of  having no contracts, but I think that will change.</p>
<p>Remember Wind is selling handsets at BELOW cost.<br />
AND you can own a Blackberry and use voice only. They don&#8217;t force you to have a data plan&#8211;it&#8217;s your choice.</p>
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		<title>By: lukev</title>
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		<dc:creator>lukev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the “unlimited plan”. where as Rogers roaming data in the states is 0.6 cents per kb &quot;

10/25 &lt; 0.6</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the “unlimited plan”. where as Rogers roaming data in the states is 0.6 cents per kb &#8221;</p>
<p>10/25 &lt; 0.6</p>
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		<title>By: hugo beaulieu</title>
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		<dc:creator>hugo beaulieu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well all insults aside...  they&#039;re shaping out to be another microcell.  Big promises, can be q good deal for a small number of people, but in the end too +any limitations to gain mass appeal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well all insults aside&#8230;  they&#8217;re shaping out to be another microcell.  Big promises, can be q good deal for a small number of people, but in the end too +any limitations to gain mass appeal.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going from Rogers/Fido to Wind seems like a bad idea to me. They roam on the Rogers network so your money ends up going back to Rogers anyways. 
From what I understand, selling SIM cards doesn&#039;t really help cause most of the phones you get won&#039;t run on their network, different frequency of HSPA (not 100% sure but if this isn&#039;t true then never mind.)
They have long distance charges for data at 10 cents for 25 kb, even if you have the &quot;unlimited plan&quot;. where as Rogers roaming data in the states is 0.6 cents per kb and 3 cents per mb overage charge with any plans. I don&#039;t think you need to do the math to know that&#039;s expensive.
Also, if you are on a call, once you hit the away and home boarder the call gets drop, and you have to re-establish the call (ie place the call again)
I don&#039;t think its wrong to complain, they are listening right? That&#039;s probably what they want anyways. And they were launched on Wednesday in Toronto and Friday in Calgary, so not even a week. 
It&#039;s going to be hard for a new entrant to compete with the 3 telcos, towers don&#039;t grow from the ground and Rogers Bell and Telus already have a very established network with the ability to offer crazy low rates if they have to retain their customers. 
The rates that Wind has to offer isn&#039;t significantly lower than what all the buzz was about. I am still going to be paying 80-90 for my voice and data combo. On top of that I have to pay practically full price for the handset. In the end I will probably spend more at Wind then with Rogers where every 2 years I am eligible for a discount price for a handset upgrade. 

In my opinion, Wind is kinda like the palm pre, big buzz thats supposed to hurt the 3 major carriers, but it just seems like its looking to be an epic fail. Wind chill is not a factor for Rogers Bell and Telus. Looks like Wind is just bringing through a light breeze. Looks like Globalive is breaking wind. On man I can sit hear all day coming up with these.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going from Rogers/Fido to Wind seems like a bad idea to me. They roam on the Rogers network so your money ends up going back to Rogers anyways.<br />
From what I understand, selling SIM cards doesn&#8217;t really help cause most of the phones you get won&#8217;t run on their network, different frequency of HSPA (not 100% sure but if this isn&#8217;t true then never mind.)<br />
They have long distance charges for data at 10 cents for 25 kb, even if you have the &#8220;unlimited plan&#8221;. where as Rogers roaming data in the states is 0.6 cents per kb and 3 cents per mb overage charge with any plans. I don&#8217;t think you need to do the math to know that&#8217;s expensive.<br />
Also, if you are on a call, once you hit the away and home boarder the call gets drop, and you have to re-establish the call (ie place the call again)<br />
I don&#8217;t think its wrong to complain, they are listening right? That&#8217;s probably what they want anyways. And they were launched on Wednesday in Toronto and Friday in Calgary, so not even a week.<br />
It&#8217;s going to be hard for a new entrant to compete with the 3 telcos, towers don&#8217;t grow from the ground and Rogers Bell and Telus already have a very established network with the ability to offer crazy low rates if they have to retain their customers.<br />
The rates that Wind has to offer isn&#8217;t significantly lower than what all the buzz was about. I am still going to be paying 80-90 for my voice and data combo. On top of that I have to pay practically full price for the handset. In the end I will probably spend more at Wind then with Rogers where every 2 years I am eligible for a discount price for a handset upgrade. </p>
<p>In my opinion, Wind is kinda like the palm pre, big buzz thats supposed to hurt the 3 major carriers, but it just seems like its looking to be an epic fail. Wind chill is not a factor for Rogers Bell and Telus. Looks like Wind is just bringing through a light breeze. Looks like Globalive is breaking wind. On man I can sit hear all day coming up with these.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the complainers. Do you realize that they were only allowed to launch a week ago?


Frankly I&#039;m very impressed by the logistics that this company has to deal with to get this much accomplished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the complainers. Do you realize that they were only allowed to launch a week ago?</p>
<p>Frankly I&#8217;m very impressed by the logistics that this company has to deal with to get this much accomplished.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugo B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting stuff...  Definatly NOT what I&#039;d call a national network though...  Their concept of an &quot;away&quot; zone is kind of indicative of how limited they are and how truly dependent on (likely rogers) to support their claim of national coverage.  They don&#039;t call it roaming, but that&#039;s pretty much what it is.  Definatly not for anyone more than 20 minutes away from TO (or any major city they&#039;ll end up covering).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting stuff&#8230;  Definatly NOT what I&#8217;d call a national network though&#8230;  Their concept of an &#8220;away&#8221; zone is kind of indicative of how limited they are and how truly dependent on (likely rogers) to support their claim of national coverage.  They don&#8217;t call it roaming, but that&#8217;s pretty much what it is.  Definatly not for anyone more than 20 minutes away from TO (or any major city they&#8217;ll end up covering).</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like what there doing here.  Actually listening to customers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like what there doing here.  Actually listening to customers&#8230;</p>
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