Comments on: Letter from Public Mobile to the Industry Minister regarding Globalive: “Two Wrongs Don’t Make a Right!” http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/11/26/letter-from-public-mobile-to-the-industry-minister-regarding-globalive-two-wrongs-don%e2%80%99t-make-a-right/ Canadian Mobile Phone News & Reviews - Cell phones and Accessories Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:23:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Aj http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/11/26/letter-from-public-mobile-to-the-industry-minister-regarding-globalive-two-wrongs-don%e2%80%99t-make-a-right/#comment-31010 Aj Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:08:35 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15956#comment-31010 Well,2 negatives do make a positive.... Well,2 negatives do make a positive….

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]]> By: telussucks http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/11/26/letter-from-public-mobile-to-the-industry-minister-regarding-globalive-two-wrongs-don%e2%80%99t-make-a-right/#comment-30013 telussucks Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:28:11 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15956#comment-30013 If the CRTC was not controlled by the big three, the debate would be very different. What some people tend to forget is how the big 3 are funding the CRTC and that alone create a climate of suspicion around a government body who is supposed to show transparency and impartiality. The CRTC has proven it's irrelevance among Canadians. The coming weeks will be crucial in determining the willingness of the Canadian government to put the interest of Canadians before those of coporations. As a poster mentioned in his comment, there are creative ways that Globalive can be allowed to go into operation while committing to comply with the rules. They could be given some time to change things around and be in full compliance within a set period of time. After all, this happens all the time when players are caught to be in contravention of the rules governing their industries. Why not in the case of Globalive? If the CRTC was not controlled by the big three, the debate would be very different. What some people tend to forget is how the big 3 are funding the CRTC and that alone create a climate of suspicion around a government body who is supposed to show transparency and impartiality.

The CRTC has proven it’s irrelevance among Canadians.

The coming weeks will be crucial in determining the willingness of the Canadian government to put the interest of Canadians before those of coporations.

As a poster mentioned in his comment, there are creative ways that Globalive can be allowed to go into operation while committing to comply with the rules. They could be given some time to change things around and be in full compliance within a set period of time.

After all, this happens all the time when players are caught to be in contravention of the rules governing their industries. Why not in the case of Globalive?

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]]> By: TNSF http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/11/26/letter-from-public-mobile-to-the-industry-minister-regarding-globalive-two-wrongs-don%e2%80%99t-make-a-right/#comment-29972 TNSF Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:23:46 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15956#comment-29972 What the laws accomplish is irrelevant. They are the law and must be followed. If there is a desire to change the laws there is a process for doing that. Ignoring the laws is not the process. What the laws accomplish is irrelevant. They are the law and must be followed.

If there is a desire to change the laws there is a process for doing that. Ignoring the laws is not the process.

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]]> By: Sid Ali http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/11/26/letter-from-public-mobile-to-the-industry-minister-regarding-globalive-two-wrongs-don%e2%80%99t-make-a-right/#comment-29962 Sid Ali Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:23:44 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15956#comment-29962 Limiting ownership rules do not make sense economically. It simply amounts to protectionism. There is a limit to the amount of capital available for investment in Canada, when that dries up, there is little to no growth. If other countries have the capital to spare and want to invest in Canada, creating jobs and paying taxes, I really can't think of any reason to prevent that. If you're scared of a foreign company having access to an important part of our infrastructure, they have to abide by all of the same rules as any other Canadian company. If they break them, then fine throw them out. Limiting ownership rules do not make sense economically. It simply amounts to protectionism. There is a limit to the amount of capital available for investment in Canada, when that dries up, there is little to no growth. If other countries have the capital to spare and want to invest in Canada, creating jobs and paying taxes, I really can’t think of any reason to prevent that.

If you’re scared of a foreign company having access to an important part of our infrastructure, they have to abide by all of the same rules as any other Canadian company. If they break them, then fine throw them out.

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]]> By: Overkill http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/11/26/letter-from-public-mobile-to-the-industry-minister-regarding-globalive-two-wrongs-don%e2%80%99t-make-a-right/#comment-29953 Overkill Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:10:20 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15956#comment-29953 Wait... so no one says the rules should be different.. just that the rules don't matter? That's the same thing. Globalive / wind has had more than a year to comply. And those rules didn't change in that time. They knew all along that those were the rules. Honestly I would be one of the first in line for them or any other new national provider. I've been sitting in a pay as you go state for 4 months anticipating the wind launch but they have to follow the rules. I don't know how they can expect people to believe in them if they can be so cavalier about these things. If they've shown now that they can't pull it together to launch, a time when that's all they have to focus on, then how can they be counted on to keep it together in the future? Wait… so no one says the rules should be different.. just that the rules don’t matter? That’s the same thing.

Globalive / wind has had more than a year to comply. And those rules didn’t change in that time. They knew all along that those were the rules. Honestly I would be one of the first in line for them or any other new national provider. I’ve been sitting in a pay as you go state for 4 months anticipating the wind launch but they have to follow the rules.

I don’t know how they can expect people to believe in them if they can be so cavalier about these things. If they’ve shown now that they can’t pull it together to launch, a time when that’s all they have to focus on, then how can they be counted on to keep it together in the future?

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]]> By: hugo beaulieu http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/11/26/letter-from-public-mobile-to-the-industry-minister-regarding-globalive-two-wrongs-don%e2%80%99t-make-a-right/#comment-29947 hugo beaulieu Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:05:26 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15956#comment-29947 First ownership rules make sense economically. It encourages local money to be put it and local investments which should also help the local industries. Few countries allow totally foreign entities within the Telecom realm... few countries have many significant players (i count 4 in the us with similar portraits in Europe...), why are so many complaining? Really? Cost? I would thaen ask why do Canadians pay more per.person for roads than Americans? Mostly the same reason we pay more for cellphones. We want the same quality everywhere but have a whole lot more ground to cover.with fewer people. Easy math. First ownership rules make sense economically. It encourages local money to be put it and local investments which should also help the local industries. Few countries allow totally foreign entities within the Telecom realm… few countries have many significant players (i count 4 in the us with similar portraits in Europe…), why are so many complaining? Really? Cost?

I would thaen ask why do Canadians pay more per.person for roads than Americans? Mostly the same reason we pay more for cellphones. We want the same quality everywhere but have a whole lot more ground to cover.with fewer people. Easy math.

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]]> By: mike http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/11/26/letter-from-public-mobile-to-the-industry-minister-regarding-globalive-two-wrongs-don%e2%80%99t-make-a-right/#comment-29937 mike Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:42:20 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15956#comment-29937 No one says the rules should be different for WIND, I think that CRTC is controlled ( influenced ) partially by BIG three. The GOV. could allow WIND to proceed for now and comply within lets say 2 years. this has happened in other countries I believe. No one says the rules should be different for WIND, I think that CRTC is controlled ( influenced ) partially by BIG three. The GOV. could allow WIND to proceed for now and comply within lets say 2 years. this has happened in other countries I believe.

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]]> By: J http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/11/26/letter-from-public-mobile-to-the-industry-minister-regarding-globalive-two-wrongs-don%e2%80%99t-make-a-right/#comment-29933 J Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:37:05 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15956#comment-29933 Two sets of rule INTERPRETATION... oh... like the spectrum auction... oh... which was designed so new entrants might have a chance.... oh... against current media manipulating legal sleazy monopolies? OH! Two sets of rule INTERPRETATION… oh…

like the spectrum auction… oh…

which was designed so new entrants might have a chance…. oh…

against current media manipulating legal sleazy monopolies?

OH!

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]]> By: shaun http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/11/26/letter-from-public-mobile-to-the-industry-minister-regarding-globalive-two-wrongs-don%e2%80%99t-make-a-right/#comment-29919 shaun Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:52:21 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15956#comment-29919 Does anyone actually think that the crtc would let in viable competition. Crtc decides to say something weeks before globalive launches. I definitely think there's more to this story. Can anyone not invest in globalive? Have they not heard that canadians are sick of getting ripped off by the big three? If I had the finances I would definitely get in on it. The current situation is like barrack and george bush. Wind being barack and telus, bell and rogers being bush. Wind has a lot of room to mess up considering canada's unhappiness with the big three. Does anyone actually think that the crtc would let in viable competition. Crtc decides to say something weeks before globalive launches. I definitely think there’s more to this story. Can anyone not invest in globalive? Have they not heard that canadians are sick of getting ripped off by the big three? If I had the finances I would definitely get in on it. The current situation is like barrack and george bush. Wind being barack and telus, bell and rogers being bush. Wind has a lot of room to mess up considering canada’s unhappiness with the big three.

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]]> By: Todd http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/11/26/letter-from-public-mobile-to-the-industry-minister-regarding-globalive-two-wrongs-don%e2%80%99t-make-a-right/#comment-29914 Todd Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:21:48 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15956#comment-29914 As much as I hate to say it, but he is absolutely correct. This can't just change for Globalive, it would have to change for everyone. Competition is definitely needed, but they need to follow the rules like everyone else. As much as I hate to say it, but he is absolutely correct. This can’t just change for Globalive, it would have to change for everyone.

Competition is definitely needed, but they need to follow the rules like everyone else.

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