Comments on: To WIND or not to WIND… that is the question of the day! http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/29/to-wind-or-not-to-wind-that-is-the-question-of-the-day/ Mobile News & Reviews for Canadians Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:54:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: bj http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/29/to-wind-or-not-to-wind-that-is-the-question-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-27511 bj Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:54:39 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15000#comment-27511 Have you checked the ownership of BNR and Nortel lately.... when it suits the government they let Canadian companies get bought by the highest (foreign) bidder... and these companies actually did research and development rather than just raping Canadian consumers. CRTC is pretty much bought and paid for by the large Canadian carriers. Have you checked the ownership of BNR and Nortel lately…. when it suits the government they let Canadian companies get bought by the highest (foreign) bidder… and these companies actually did research and development rather than just raping Canadian consumers.

CRTC is pretty much bought and paid for by the large Canadian carriers.

]]> By: BT http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/29/to-wind-or-not-to-wind-that-is-the-question-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-27459 BT Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:45:49 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15000#comment-27459 Decision is in, and it's NOT in Globalive's favour. http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/NEWS/RELEASES/2009/r091029.htm Now things can get complicated. They can make changes in the problem areas identified by the CRTC, they can appeal to cabinet (as Industry Canada already approved them months ago), or they can choose to bow out. Decision is in, and it’s NOT in Globalive’s favour.

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/NEWS/RELEASES/2009/r091029.htm

Now things can get complicated. They can make changes in the problem areas identified by the CRTC, they can appeal to cabinet (as Industry Canada already approved them months ago), or they can choose to bow out.

]]> By: JD http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/29/to-wind-or-not-to-wind-that-is-the-question-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-27458 JD Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:42:53 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15000#comment-27458 If you knew what you were talking about, you'd know that BOTH the CRTC and Industry Canada have authority. Industry Canada reviews ownership for purposes of issuing a spectrum licence. But that licence is useless unless you also have a licence to operate as a telcom common carrier. CRTC issues those. And what exactly do you mean by "financial influence?" Are you suggesting they bribed the CRTC, because if so, you should replace the tinfoil in your hat. If you knew what you were talking about, you’d know that BOTH the CRTC and Industry Canada have authority.

Industry Canada reviews ownership for purposes of issuing a spectrum licence.

But that licence is useless unless you also have a licence to operate as a telcom common carrier. CRTC issues those.

And what exactly do you mean by “financial influence?” Are you suggesting they bribed the CRTC, because if so, you should replace the tinfoil in your hat.

]]> By: Joe http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/29/to-wind-or-not-to-wind-that-is-the-question-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-27456 Joe Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:39:04 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15000#comment-27456 DENIED! DENIED!

]]> By: AngryChineseDriver http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/29/to-wind-or-not-to-wind-that-is-the-question-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-27451 AngryChineseDriver Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:51:44 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15000#comment-27451 So it's perfectly fine for CRTC to usurp their superior (Industry Canada)'s decision by stalling Globalive, all while under major influence (most definitely financial) from the Big Three? If anything, Globalive has changed their gameplan to reflect the appropriate changes. They wouldn't continue hiring and building stores if they didn't think they'd make it. So it’s perfectly fine for CRTC to usurp their superior (Industry Canada)’s decision by stalling Globalive, all while under major influence (most definitely financial) from the Big Three?

If anything, Globalive has changed their gameplan to reflect the appropriate changes. They wouldn’t continue hiring and building stores if they didn’t think they’d make it.

]]> By: clint http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/29/to-wind-or-not-to-wind-that-is-the-question-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-27450 clint Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:48:35 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15000#comment-27450 At this point in time anything is better than getting raped by the big 3. If anyone is mad at any company, it should be at the big 3 and the Canadian government for allowing 3 large companies to subvert the law and minimize competition such that we pay huge fees for phoney services. I.e. 911 & system access. That doesn't even cover the ridiculous 3 yr contracts, early termination payouts, inflated phone prices, or the 60% delta we pay over our USA neighbours. Oh...gotta love the handset exclusive garbage too-cause being on one carrier means you'll make more money......NOT! I hope Wind complies with just enogh law to compete with the big 3. After all the current companies skirt the law all the time. At this point in time anything is better than getting raped by the big 3. If anyone is mad at any company, it should be at the big 3 and the Canadian government for allowing 3 large companies to subvert the law and minimize competition such that we pay huge fees for phoney services. I.e. 911 & system access.

That doesn’t even cover the ridiculous 3 yr contracts, early termination payouts, inflated phone prices, or the 60% delta we pay over our USA neighbours. Oh…gotta love the handset exclusive garbage too-cause being on one carrier means you’ll make more money……NOT!

I hope Wind complies with just enogh law to compete with the big 3. After all the current companies skirt the law all the time.

]]> By: Kmusky http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/29/to-wind-or-not-to-wind-that-is-the-question-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-27446 Kmusky Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:45:14 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15000#comment-27446 While we are on the subject of what is a "Canadian" company, why don't we talk about Wind's call centre in Peterborough, while Telus's is in the Philippines. There's alot of ways to define a Canadian company. While we are on the subject of what is a “Canadian” company, why don’t we talk about Wind’s call centre in Peterborough, while Telus’s is in the Philippines. There’s alot of ways to define a Canadian company.

]]> By: BT http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/29/to-wind-or-not-to-wind-that-is-the-question-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-27443 BT Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:44:25 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15000#comment-27443 Who says they're not obeying the law? So far it's only Rogers, Telus and Bell saying that - and last I checked they aren't the ones who have the authority to actually decide that. Legally, it only matters what Industry Canada and the CRTC say. IC has already given Wind the green light, and the CRTC is giving it's decision today. We wish them the best in it being ruled they meet the requirements of the law, not that they'll be allowed to ignore it. Who says they’re not obeying the law? So far it’s only Rogers, Telus and Bell saying that – and last I checked they aren’t the ones who have the authority to actually decide that.

Legally, it only matters what Industry Canada and the CRTC say. IC has already given Wind the green light, and the CRTC is giving it’s decision today.

We wish them the best in it being ruled they meet the requirements of the law, not that they’ll be allowed to ignore it.

]]> By: Serge Jr Turgeon http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/29/to-wind-or-not-to-wind-that-is-the-question-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-27441 Serge Jr Turgeon Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:19:29 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15000#comment-27441 Are you one of those people that think that CRTC is good for us ? that our laws are perfect ? Look in the global wireless ranking where we are compared to the rest of the world ... oh and by the time look for the internet, it is ruled by the CRTC too and this is the same situation, We pay more for less than almost everyone ! And now that beautiful CRTC might block Wind from coming into canada. After that they want to charge us for free TV Channel ... what else .. My point is that even if it owner a foreign ownership, if canadian company are so good for us ... we just won't go to wind mobile .. so let's the competition begin ! Are you one of those people that think that CRTC is good for us ? that our laws are perfect ? Look in the global wireless ranking where we are compared to the rest of the world … oh and by the time look for the internet, it is ruled by the CRTC too and this is the same situation, We pay more for less than almost everyone ! And now that beautiful CRTC might block Wind from coming into canada. After that they want to charge us for free TV Channel … what else .. My point is that even if it owner a foreign ownership, if canadian company are so good for us … we just won’t go to wind mobile .. so let’s the competition begin !

]]> By: S K http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/29/to-wind-or-not-to-wind-that-is-the-question-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-27439 S K Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:12:30 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=15000#comment-27439 We wish Globalive all the best today! We want competition, and more competition. It is healthy for the economy and helps the consumer lower their costs and get better services. The fact is that the oligopolies in Canada have done a fantastic job in keeping our rates the highest possible making Rogers and BELL the mammoths they are. I fail to see where the huge size of our telecom comapnies has helped Canada at all. The service is still bad and we hand over our first born to pay for a business cellular line. I also fail to see where they stole anything that belongs to Canada (!?!). On the contrary, if you were not biased, you would see that the new companies have invested MILLIONS of dollars in the Canadian economy and have created a whole lot of positions in the industry. Check the job boards and you will see. DAVE and Public Mobile will also do the same. So, I say YES to competition and YES to lower prices. Who really cares where the money comes from? Should the US complain that China owns almost half of the US Bonds? It keeps their country running... Wake up and smell the coffee. New telecom times are here and CRTC has seen the light! We wish Globalive all the best today!

We want competition, and more competition. It is healthy for the economy and helps the consumer lower their costs and get better services.

The fact is that the oligopolies in Canada have done a fantastic job in keeping our rates the highest possible making Rogers and BELL the mammoths they are.

I fail to see where the huge size of our telecom comapnies has helped Canada at all. The service is still bad and we hand over our first born to pay for a business cellular line.

I also fail to see where they stole anything that belongs to Canada (!?!). On the contrary, if you were not biased, you would see that the new companies have invested MILLIONS of dollars in the Canadian economy and have created a whole lot of positions in the industry. Check the job boards and you will see. DAVE and Public Mobile will also do the same.

So, I say YES to competition and YES to lower prices. Who really cares where the money comes from?

Should the US complain that China owns almost half of the US Bonds? It keeps their country running…

Wake up and smell the coffee. New telecom times are here and CRTC has seen the light!

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