Comments on: TELUS tosses SAF… intros “Clear Choice” rate plans http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/27/telus-gets-rid-of-the-system-access-fees-intoduces-clear-choice-rate-plans/ Canadian Mobile Phone News & Reviews - Cell phones and Accessories Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:42:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Yan http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/27/telus-gets-rid-of-the-system-access-fees-intoduces-clear-choice-rate-plans/#comment-27423 Yan Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:24:53 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=14910#comment-27423 I didn't comment on their overall pricing. I agree that they are overpriced. The difference now is that we're being honestly screwed, whereas before we were being deceitfully screwed. I didn’t comment on their overall pricing. I agree that they are overpriced. The difference now is that we’re being honestly screwed, whereas before we were being deceitfully screwed.

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]]> By: AngryChineseDriver http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/27/telus-gets-rid-of-the-system-access-fees-intoduces-clear-choice-rate-plans/#comment-27419 AngryChineseDriver Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:32:13 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=14910#comment-27419 The problem is that there's a price raise AT ALL. This is not as bad as Rogers and their blatantly-misleading GRR fee, but Telus is still milking people for things that they SHOULDN'T have to pay because it doesn't cost Telus anything. However, it's a free market and if Telus decides this is the way to go then so be it. I will be exercising my limited consumer power by switching to WIND (from Rogers) and encouraging others to do the same -- no SAF/911, no fees for VM/CD. The problem is that there’s a price raise AT ALL.

This is not as bad as Rogers and their blatantly-misleading GRR fee, but Telus is still milking people for things that they SHOULDN’T have to pay because it doesn’t cost Telus anything.

However, it’s a free market and if Telus decides this is the way to go then so be it. I will be exercising my limited consumer power by switching to WIND (from Rogers) and encouraging others to do the same — no SAF/911, no fees for VM/CD.

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]]> By: Colin http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/27/telus-gets-rid-of-the-system-access-fees-intoduces-clear-choice-rate-plans/#comment-27401 Colin Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:54:27 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=14910#comment-27401 If there wasn't a activation fee and sim cards were $1 or something, I would buy a telus sim as soon as their GSM network is ready and switch from Rogers. But there's no point paying $30 to save $2 a month when new entrants are just around the corner. If there wasn’t a activation fee and sim cards were $1 or something, I would buy a telus sim as soon as their GSM network is ready and switch from Rogers.

But there’s no point paying $30 to save $2 a month when new entrants are just around the corner.

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]]> By: Dave http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/27/telus-gets-rid-of-the-system-access-fees-intoduces-clear-choice-rate-plans/#comment-27396 Dave Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:35:44 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=14910#comment-27396 SAF should have never been broken-out as a line item by the carriers in the first place. Telus' move here is a good one as it adds value (free VM) while increasing transparency. Plus, this is a fair price for what they are offering. Contracts are a way to get a phone for free - you don't like it, don't sign one - pay full pop for your phone like you would a new TV, stereo, or other consumer electronics item and then see how you feel :) Rogers' new regulatory fee structure is a step in the wrong direction and makes them look silly relative to Telus. SAF should have never been broken-out as a line item by the carriers in the first place.

Telus’ move here is a good one as it adds value (free VM) while increasing transparency. Plus, this is a fair price for what they are offering. Contracts are a way to get a phone for free – you don’t like it, don’t sign one – pay full pop for your phone like you would a new TV, stereo, or other consumer electronics item and then see how you feel :)

Rogers’ new regulatory fee structure is a step in the wrong direction and makes them look silly relative to Telus.

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]]> By: louc http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/27/telus-gets-rid-of-the-system-access-fees-intoduces-clear-choice-rate-plans/#comment-27394 louc Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:38:55 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=14910#comment-27394 So I guess overpricing the retail prices of their phones, voice plans and data plans is a bonus. Hell, I'll pay the SAF fee's just so their employees get paid and they can run their business, but don't ask me to pay $600 for a phone that only cost $300 to make. Or $30 for only 500mb of data, especially when I only pay $20 more for my high speed internet at home, which is unlimited and at a faster rate. It's a joke that people find it okay that we're being ripped off just so we can own a cell phone. So I guess overpricing the retail prices of their phones, voice plans and data plans is a bonus. Hell, I’ll pay the SAF fee’s just so their employees get paid and they can run their business, but don’t ask me to pay $600 for a phone that only cost $300 to make. Or $30 for only 500mb of data, especially when I only pay $20 more for my high speed internet at home, which is unlimited and at a faster rate.

It’s a joke that people find it okay that we’re being ripped off just so we can own a cell phone.

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]]> By: joe http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/27/telus-gets-rid-of-the-system-access-fees-intoduces-clear-choice-rate-plans/#comment-27391 joe Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:02:39 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=14910#comment-27391 To Telus' credit, they aren't making up a new fee to replace the SAF like Rogers did. To Telus’ credit, they aren’t making up a new fee to replace the SAF like Rogers did.

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]]> By: Yan http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/27/telus-gets-rid-of-the-system-access-fees-intoduces-clear-choice-rate-plans/#comment-27389 Yan Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:03:21 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=14910#comment-27389 Come on people, you have to realize that most of the SAF was a pure fabrication. What was it used for? They just used it to pay for their operating expenses. What would you expect, Piper975, that the companies start detailing: - Fee for renting office space - Fee for paying the utilities - Fee for paying the employees' salaries - and so on? At least they help leveling the playing field and making it easier for us to shop around and compare offerings. Come on people, you have to realize that most of the SAF was a pure fabrication. What was it used for? They just used it to pay for their operating expenses.

What would you expect, Piper975, that the companies start detailing:
- Fee for renting office space
- Fee for paying the utilities
- Fee for paying the employees’ salaries
- and so on?

At least they help leveling the playing field and making it easier for us to shop around and compare offerings.

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]]> By: toyandme http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/27/telus-gets-rid-of-the-system-access-fees-intoduces-clear-choice-rate-plans/#comment-27381 toyandme Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:26:28 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=14910#comment-27381 It is a step in the right direction but "free Voice mail" is a red herring: it is worthless compared to call display. The 911 fee, like all other fees that are not negotiable, should be built into the advertized price, along with the taxes. They do this all over Europe and it is time for us to catch up. Btw, let's not forget that provinces that now call the 911 fee a tax, do so because the 911 fees collected by phone providers ($150 million/year) were stolen by them. They were never used to provide gps coordinates to locate accident victims. It is a step in the right direction but “free Voice mail” is a red herring: it is worthless compared to call display.

The 911 fee, like all other fees that are not negotiable, should be built into the advertized price, along with the taxes. They do this all over Europe and it is time for us to catch up. Btw, let’s not forget that provinces that now call the 911 fee a tax, do so because the 911 fees collected by phone providers ($150 million/year) were stolen by them. They were never used to provide gps coordinates to locate accident victims.

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]]> By: Justin E http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/27/telus-gets-rid-of-the-system-access-fees-intoduces-clear-choice-rate-plans/#comment-27379 Justin E Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:59:55 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=14910#comment-27379 Better than before, but not by much. Better than before, but not by much.

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]]> By: J-M http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/10/27/telus-gets-rid-of-the-system-access-fees-intoduces-clear-choice-rate-plans/#comment-27378 J-M Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:39:35 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=14910#comment-27378 Some people will never be happy....there will always be something for them to complain about. I'm not a big Telus fan, but I think these plans are a good idea. These plans are the exact same plans Bell had 5 years ago....maybe Bell will bring them back! Some people will never be happy….there will always be something for them to complain about.
I’m not a big Telus fan, but I think these plans are a good idea.
These plans are the exact same plans Bell had 5 years ago….maybe Bell will bring them back!

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