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	<title>Comments on: Rogers internal doc of the new Gov&#8217;t Regulatory Recovery Fee</title>
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		<title>By: gabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 01:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Rogers got a new way to make money of us. They changed the fee from System Access fee to Govt regulatory recovery fee trying to shut us up by using the Govt. By reading this link (http://www.rogers.com/web/content/grrf?cm_mmc=Redirects-_-Consumer_Wireless_Eng-_-regulatory%20fee-_-regulatoryfee) it clearly states that the Govt does not require for us to pay that fee but rogers has made it mandatory to Steal from us with no choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Rogers got a new way to make money of us. They changed the fee from System Access fee to Govt regulatory recovery fee trying to shut us up by using the Govt. By reading this link (<a href="http://www.rogers.com/web/content/grrf?cm_mmc=Redirects-_-Consumer_Wireless_Eng-_-regulatory%20fee-_-regulatoryfee" rel="nofollow">http://www.rogers.com/web/content/grrf?cm_mmc=Redirects-_-Consumer_Wireless_Eng-_-regulatory%20fee-_-regulatoryfee</a>) it clearly states that the Govt does not require for us to pay that fee but rogers has made it mandatory to Steal from us with no choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Theyallsuck not just rogers!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theyallsuck not just rogers!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to have a Rogers phone, silly me had a three year contract so I payed $200.00 to end and then moved over to Bell.

  Really if you are considering switching....just stick with Rogers!! Bell is the sneakier of the two, and again I have a contract which was again stupid of me....I used to have Fido, they didnt have great coverage but they were cheap and not  sneaky in the least...there is my rant...long story short they are all sneaky jerks and I wish that cell phones were not a necessity!

We need a system like some european countries which have so many phone companies that they all try to undercut each other,  no major conglomerates with the market cornered, ugh!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to have a Rogers phone, silly me had a three year contract so I payed $200.00 to end and then moved over to Bell.</p>
<p>  Really if you are considering switching&#8230;.just stick with Rogers!! Bell is the sneakier of the two, and again I have a contract which was again stupid of me&#8230;.I used to have Fido, they didnt have great coverage but they were cheap and not  sneaky in the least&#8230;there is my rant&#8230;long story short they are all sneaky jerks and I wish that cell phones were not a necessity!</p>
<p>We need a system like some european countries which have so many phone companies that they all try to undercut each other,  no major conglomerates with the market cornered, ugh!!</p>
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		<title>By: Blade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Com on WIND Public and DAVE. Lets get this show on the road!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Com on WIND Public and DAVE. Lets get this show on the road!</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Iam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Iam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the telcos are the same. They all want our money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the telcos are the same. They all want our money.</p>
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		<title>By: NN</title>
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		<dc:creator>NN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re in no way being up-front - they simply took the bulk of the SAF, rolled it into the completely opaque monthly fee, and put the rest in the &quot;regulatory recovery fee&quot;. The fee sizes and descriptions are as arbitrary and fictional as ever.

Tell me how much it costs to provide the service and how much profit you&#039;d like to make, and I&#039;ll tell you whether we have a contract. Paying someone to make up new names for random fees is not a good use of my funding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re in no way being up-front &#8211; they simply took the bulk of the SAF, rolled it into the completely opaque monthly fee, and put the rest in the &#8220;regulatory recovery fee&#8221;. The fee sizes and descriptions are as arbitrary and fictional as ever.</p>
<p>Tell me how much it costs to provide the service and how much profit you&#8217;d like to make, and I&#8217;ll tell you whether we have a contract. Paying someone to make up new names for random fees is not a good use of my funding.</p>
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		<title>By: Maha Valio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maha Valio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rogers will now be able to market that they have no system access fee, which the average consumer has a negative connotation of. The sad part is that many people will think they&#039;re getting a better deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rogers will now be able to market that they have no system access fee, which the average consumer has a negative connotation of. The sad part is that many people will think they&#8217;re getting a better deal.</p>
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		<title>By: sinking lower and lower</title>
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		<dc:creator>sinking lower and lower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I simply can&#039;t imagine in what world rogers is living right now..

It&#039;s almost like if they were laughing in the face of canadian customers.

Are they trying to take us for idiots by giving useless and totally annoying options (Yes, whocalled is simply a shitty option)

Anyways, they&#039;ll realised quickly that others companies may adjust brighter..

Good luck Rogers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I simply can&#8217;t imagine in what world rogers is living right now..</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost like if they were laughing in the face of canadian customers.</p>
<p>Are they trying to take us for i****s by giving useless and totally annoying options (Yes, whocalled is simply a shitty option)</p>
<p>Anyways, they&#8217;ll realised quickly that others companies may adjust brighter..</p>
<p>Good luck Rogers.</p>
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		<title>By: ru4real</title>
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		<dc:creator>ru4real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, thanks Rogers! I&#039;m looking forward to you giving BACK the call forward feature that I originally had when I signed on and you removed despite us having a contractual agreement in place.

Also, thank-you for giving me back Who Called; a feature that I have already asked you repeatedly to turn off on my account. It&#039;s a fantastic service, in theory. Given that it only informs me of calls that I missed while my phone was on and my caller ID recorded the missed call, and does NOT inform me of calls missed while my phone was off, it is a completely useless feature that does not do what is intended. Thanks for giving it to me for &quot;free&quot; again though.

Finally, thank-you for adding Call Manager for &quot;free.&quot; The fact that I do not have a family that I need to regulate should not impede my usage of this feature at all. It is very important that I block my cat from making phone calls between 8am and 6pm, since I don&#039;t have unlimited calling during those times.

Sincerely,
ru4real?!

P.S. Good call on naming your new, non-government regulated fee, the “Government Regulatory Recovery Fee.&quot; Everyone hates the government and now we are all going to shift our hate from you to them.

Oh. No... wait... no we won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFFFCC !important"><p>Wow, thanks Rogers! I&#8217;m looking forward to you giving BACK the call forward feature that I originally had when I signed on and you removed despite us having a contractual agreement in place.</p>
<p>Also, thank-you for giving me back Who Called; a feature that I have already asked you repeatedly to turn off on my account. It&#8217;s a fantastic service, in theory. Given that it only informs me of calls that I missed while my phone was on and my caller ID recorded the missed call, and does NOT inform me of calls missed while my phone was off, it is a completely useless feature that does not do what is intended. Thanks for giving it to me for &#8220;free&#8221; again though.</p>
<p>Finally, thank-you for adding Call Manager for &#8220;free.&#8221; The fact that I do not have a family that I need to regulate should not impede my usage of this feature at all. It is very important that I block my cat from making phone calls between 8am and 6pm, since I don&#8217;t have unlimited calling during those times.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
ru4real?!</p>
<p>P.S. Good call on naming your new, non-government regulated fee, the “Government Regulatory Recovery Fee.&#8221; Everyone hates the government and now we are all going to shift our hate from you to them.</p>
<p>Oh. No&#8230; wait&#8230; no we won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: RogersKeith</title>
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		<dc:creator>RogersKeith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey all - I&#039;m with Rogers and wanted to clarify a couple things. First, these new plans only apply to new customers. Existing customers can choose to stick with their existing plans if they wish or migrate to the new plans if they choose.

If they choose to move over, they&#039;ll get up to $11 in new services included. And the total price they&#039;ll pay will be about the same. The exact amount will vary based on government fees in their area, but would not be more than a few cents difference from what they would have paid under existing plans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey all &#8211; I&#8217;m with Rogers and wanted to clarify a couple things. First, these new plans only apply to new customers. Existing customers can choose to stick with their existing plans if they wish or migrate to the new plans if they choose.</p>
<p>If they choose to move over, they&#8217;ll get up to $11 in new services included. And the total price they&#8217;ll pay will be about the same. The exact amount will vary based on government fees in their area, but would not be more than a few cents difference from what they would have paid under existing plans.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And in the next round of the Fee Shell Game, Rogers will replace the monthly access fee with a $10 fee for each feature and mandate you have at least three.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in the next round of the Fee Shell Game, Rogers will replace the monthly access fee with a $10 fee for each feature and mandate you have at least three.</p>
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