Comments on: Confirmed: Bell releasing Palm Pre August 27th at $199.95 http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/08/04/confirmed-bell-releasing-palm-pre-august-27th-at-199-95/ Canadian Mobile Phone News & Reviews - Cell phones and Accessories Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:42:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Nuelo Black http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/08/04/confirmed-bell-releasing-palm-pre-august-27th-at-199-95/#comment-24541 Nuelo Black Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:48:15 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=12164#comment-24541 You can't compare buying a car to buying a cellphone. Quote toyandme "If I buy a $40,000 car with cash I don’t have to worry about $500/month payments. I just worry about gas and maintenance. With cell phones you pay the full price and then you still have to make the full monthly payments for three years!!! Hello?" 1. Data plans in Canada are HUGELY overpriced compared to the rest of the world. 2. Wi-fi hotspots are rampant. 3. TomTom does a better job with pure GPS then Google Maps will ever do. 4. If more people thought like I do data plans would be cheaper due to the laws of economics. With 6.5 million subscribers each diligently paying $65 a month to Bell Canada, I think I prefer to save my money for more important things. Can't you wait until you are in front of a computer to update your Twitter status? You can't compare buying a car to buying a cellphone. Quote toyandme "If I buy a $40,000 car with cash I don’t have to worry about $500/month payments. I just worry about gas and maintenance. With cell phones you pay the full price and then you still have to make the full monthly payments for three years!!! Hello?"

1. Data plans in Canada are HUGELY overpriced compared to the rest of the world.

2. Wi-fi hotspots are rampant.

3. TomTom does a better job with pure GPS then Google Maps will ever do.

4. If more people thought like I do data plans would be cheaper due to the laws of economics.

With 6.5 million subscribers each diligently paying $65 a month to Bell Canada, I think I prefer to save my money for more important things. Can't you wait until you are in front of a computer to update your Twitter status?

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]]> By: Jonathan http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/08/04/confirmed-bell-releasing-palm-pre-august-27th-at-199-95/#comment-24524 Jonathan Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:29:46 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=12164#comment-24524 and why would you spend $599 on a smart phone without a data plan... that's like buying a car and refusing to put any gas in it because it pollutes the environment. That just doesn't make any sense to me, if you are going to do that spend $250 on an iPod touch and get a free phone with your $35 voice plan... and why would you spend $599 on a smart phone without a data plan… that’s like buying a car and refusing to put any gas in it because it pollutes the environment. That just doesn’t make any sense to me, if you are going to do that spend $250 on an iPod touch and get a free phone with your $35 voice plan…

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]]> By: Nuelo Black http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/08/04/confirmed-bell-releasing-palm-pre-august-27th-at-199-95/#comment-24522 Nuelo Black Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:15:22 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=12164#comment-24522 Simple math proves the point of how well these products are marketed: Scenario #1: Buy the phone without a contract and without a data plan. $599 + ($35/mth * 36 mths) = $1859 Scenario #2: Buy the phone with a 3 year contract and a data plan. $199 + ($65/mth * 36 mths) = $2539 As you can see, what seems cheaper is in fact more expensive over 3 years. Only difference is you need a little more cash upfront. Simple math proves the point of how well these products are marketed:

Scenario #1:

Buy the phone without a contract and without a data plan.

$599 + ($35/mth * 36 mths) = $1859

Scenario #2:

Buy the phone with a 3 year contract and a data plan.

$199 + ($65/mth * 36 mths) = $2539

As you can see, what seems cheaper is in fact more expensive over 3 years. Only difference is you need a little more cash upfront.

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]]> By: Jonathan http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/08/04/confirmed-bell-releasing-palm-pre-august-27th-at-199-95/#comment-24517 Jonathan Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:49:59 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=12164#comment-24517 I am not denying that the the three year contracts are absolutely ludicrous. But I was simply replying to your comment: "And I hear that it comes with a Certificate of Obsoleteness, dated Jan. 1st, 2010 when all new phones over $50 will be HSPA compatible International phones. By then you will still be stuck with this antique technology for another 30 months!" which is obviously written to get a rise, because it is simply not true that the pre will be obsolete in 4 months. I am not denying that the the three year contracts are absolutely ludicrous. But I was simply replying to your comment:

"And I hear that it comes with a Certificate of Obsoleteness, dated Jan. 1st, 2010 when all new phones over $50 will be HSPA compatible International phones. By then you will still be stuck with this antique technology for another 30 months!"

which is obviously written to get a rise, because it is simply not true that the pre will be obsolete in 4 months.

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]]> By: blueadept1 http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/08/04/confirmed-bell-releasing-palm-pre-august-27th-at-199-95/#comment-24514 blueadept1 Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:50:30 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=12164#comment-24514 It all comes down to how long you expect to be with the company and how volatile your service usage is. I know that I will be with a company for three years, and thus will sign an agreement. If I did not, I would still be paying the exact same monthly amount for my plan, and therefore lose $400 over the course of the three years for not signing an agreement. It all comes down to how long you expect to be with the company and how volatile your service usage is. I know that I will be with a company for three years, and thus will sign an agreement. If I did not, I would still be paying the exact same monthly amount for my plan, and therefore lose $400 over the course of the three years for not signing an agreement.

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]]> By: Jonathan http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/08/04/confirmed-bell-releasing-palm-pre-august-27th-at-199-95/#comment-24503 Jonathan Tue, 04 Aug 2009 19:26:29 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=12164#comment-24503 @toyandme unless you travel a lot outside North America it isn't going to matter to the end user. the HSPA speeds are the same as EVDO revA for data, so it really isn't going to matter to the average consumer, if you travel a lot you probably already have a Rogers GSM phone... I'm on the waiting list to get one on August 27th! @toyandme unless you travel a lot outside North America it isn’t going to matter to the end user. the HSPA speeds are the same as EVDO revA for data, so it really isn’t going to matter to the average consumer, if you travel a lot you probably already have a Rogers GSM phone…

I’m on the waiting list to get one on August 27th!

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]]> By: toyandme http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/08/04/confirmed-bell-releasing-palm-pre-august-27th-at-199-95/#comment-24505 toyandme Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:08:03 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=12164#comment-24505 I do have an unlocked GSM from eBay that I use overseas but I'd like a better phone with wifi and UMA. The Pre ain't it and I object to the 3-year shackles. So why not buy it outright, you say? Because it's a blatant ripoff! If I buy a $40,000 car with cash I don't have to worry about $500/month payments. I just worry about gas and maintenance. With cell phones you pay the full price and then you still have to make the full monthly payments for three years!!! Hello? Cell phone companies make airline companies and politicians look honest. The only solution, as suggested by another poster, is wait for refurbs to show up. By then the OS is pretty much bug-free and works as intended. I do have an unlocked GSM from eBay that I use overseas but I'd like a better phone with wifi and UMA. The Pre ain't it and I object to the 3-year shackles. So why not buy it outright, you say? Because it's a blatant ripoff!

If I buy a $40,000 car with cash I don't have to worry about $500/month payments. I just worry about gas and maintenance. With cell phones you pay the full price and then you still have to make the full monthly payments for three years!!! Hello?

Cell phone companies make airline companies and politicians look honest.

The only solution, as suggested by another poster, is wait for refurbs to show up. By then the OS is pretty much bug-free and works as intended.

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]]> By: toyandme http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/08/04/confirmed-bell-releasing-palm-pre-august-27th-at-199-95/#comment-24502 toyandme Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:06:19 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=12164#comment-24502 And I hear that it comes with a Certificate of Obsoleteness, dated Jan. 1st, 2010 when all new phones over $50 will be HSPA compatible International phones. By then you will still be stuck with this antique technology for another 30 months! Thanks, but I'll pass on this one. With the known issues regarding the durability of the unit and mediocre predictive text, not to mention the forever contracts, this is not the device for me. And I hear that it comes with a Certificate of Obsoleteness, dated Jan. 1st, 2010 when all new phones over $50 will be HSPA compatible International phones. By then you will still be stuck with this antique technology for another 30 months!

Thanks, but I'll pass on this one. With the known issues regarding the durability of the unit and mediocre predictive text, not to mention the forever contracts, this is not the device for me.

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]]> By: Michael http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/08/04/confirmed-bell-releasing-palm-pre-august-27th-at-199-95/#comment-24501 Michael Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:04:41 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=12164#comment-24501 The pricing is not competitive as reburished Iphone 3G costs $49.99 or $149.99 without data plan. The pricing is not competitive as reburished Iphone 3G costs $49.99 or $149.99 without data plan.

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]]> By: Reinhart http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/08/04/confirmed-bell-releasing-palm-pre-august-27th-at-199-95/#comment-24499 Reinhart Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:22:55 +0000 http://mobilesyrup.com/?p=12164#comment-24499 Lets hope the Canadian versions don't have as many quality issues as the ones down south. Cracked screens, side to side movement in the slider, etc. Lets hope the Canadian versions don't have as many quality issues as the ones down south. Cracked screens, side to side movement in the slider, etc.

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